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Postby Calamity » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:54 am

judge foils i saw were 200 bucks on ebay/tcgplayer

also I'm pretty sure we won't return to Lorwyn. I think i remember MaRo saying it didn't do well in market research. It's also unlikely they'll reprint it outside of a supplemental product since they dont' print tribal supertype cards anymore
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Postby Calamity » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:59 am

also everyone on mtgs seems to think faeries will be tier 1 and unbeatable lol

i'm pretty sure zoo with nacatl will run those sorts of decks over.
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Postby magicdownunder » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:12 am

I welcome our Fae overloads back, esp. now that Jund got nerfed we can really see a huge boost on Pod, dredge and Burn decks.
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Postby Alex » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:23 am

also everyone on mtgs seems to think faeries will be tier 1 and unbeatable lol

i'm pretty sure zoo with nacatl will run those sorts of decks over.
Faeries won't be a good deck BECAUSE of Bitterblossom, it was already a perfectly good deck before. UB and UR faeries made up a fair part of the Modern metagame here, they were basically 35 removal spells, 4 Wydwen, the Biting Gale, and lands. It lost to Storm G1 but beat everything else pretty easily. Regardless, the deck doesn't even really want to play Bitterblossom, it would rather just play something practically unkillable like Wydwen.

Bitterblossom plays a little better in a deck that revolves
around hitting someone with swords and playing a shitload of removal. I expect to see Sword of War and Peace and Sword of Feast and Famine make a bigger impact now.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:26 am

I'm waiting for Saito to win the pro tour with zoo.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:59 am

I hate Modern.
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Postby DerWille » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:27 am

I didn't watch the super bowl, but I knew that Seattle won. I think it was the moment that everyone on my street started to set off fireworks and honk their cars.

I think I might try to speculating on Wild Nacatl. I can probably pick them up for $0.25 or less and then maybe sell them when they go back to $1.00 ~ $1.50 again. It's not obscene money, but it'll help.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:53 pm

I guess I will play Modern now.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:03 pm

also everyone on mtgs seems to think faeries will be tier 1 and unbeatable lol

i'm pretty sure zoo with nacatl will run those sorts of decks over.
Faeries won't be a good deck BECAUSE of Bitterblossom, it was already a perfectly good deck before. UB and UR faeries made up a fair part of the Modern metagame here, they were basically 35 removal spells, 4 Wydwen, the Biting Gale, and lands. It lost to Storm G1 but beat everything else pretty easily. Regardless, the deck doesn't even really want to play Bitterblossom, it would rather just
play something practically unkillable like Wydwen.

Bitterblossom plays a little better in a deck that revolves around hitting someone with swords and playing a shitload of removal. I expect to see Sword of War and Peace and Sword of Feast and Famine make a bigger impact now.
No it wasn't a perfectly good deck, Wydwen is not a thing and the only time Faeries was ever good in Modern was in mono blue form at the formats onset.

Nothing you ever say about Magic makes sense or is true. You should be careful, budg kids see long posts and immediately think that the person talking knows what they're talking about. It's how Zem got so popular on MTGSalvation. Very misleading.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:05 pm

Lots of words =/= knowledge

Saying you test a lot =/= you test a lot

FNM =/= competitive grounds
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:06 pm

All mtgs fallacies

Also people who say, "I am 99-34-2 with my budgo deck"

Posting a record =/= posting results
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:09 pm

"Faeries doesn't want Bitterblossom"

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:11 pm

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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:12 pm

Cardboard subterfuge, I won't stand for it. Philip Seymour Hoffman is dead, for Christ's sake. We could at least honor his dying wish and pretend we know wtf we're talking about.
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Kait was soon found dead in his underwear, lying in the bathroom. Magic card rolled up and still sticking in his vein.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:21 pm

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:23 pm

Well played, sir. Well played.
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I laughed.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:40 pm

Yeah Alex...just no.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:43 pm

I was only ever popular with FOS guys on mtgs Kait.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:00 pm

I was only ever popular with guys on mtgs Kait.
Fixed that.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:01 pm

he failed to seduce magic mage
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Postby Valdarith » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:05 pm

I didn't think they'd actually unban Bitterblossom. Wow.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:18 pm

I have a new favourite format.

Now I can proudly call myself a faerie in public.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:39 pm

He's here, he's queer, and he's not going anywhere
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:48 pm

He's here, he's queer, and he's not going anywhere
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:53 pm

If drawstep mistbin cliqueing people is wrong I don't want to be right.
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Postby redthirst » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:59 pm

It is and you're not.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:08 pm

Faeries: where your opponent's turn is actually your turn.
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Postby redthirst » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:15 pm

I would be looking forward to that hot Nacatyl + Experiment One tag team, personally.
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Postby Pedros » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:23 pm

As I didnt play around when faeries were legal, how the deck played and what was typical deck?
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Postby DocLawless » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:26 pm

It's Monday, so today's the day I log in and see how many pages behind I am from over the weekend. This week's magic number is 5. I am assuming hot topics have included the pre-release and the super bowl.
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Postby DocLawless » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:27 pm

Bitterblossom was unbanned?? /in faeries.
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Postby redthirst » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:31 pm

As I didnt play around when faeries were legal, how the deck played and what was typical deck?
Tempo - Play an early threat and then control the game to keep your opponent on the back foot. It was extra annoying because most of the answers the deck used were also threats in their own right.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:33 pm

It's Monday, so today's the day I log in and see how many pages behind I am from over the weekend. This week's magic number is 5. I am assuming hot topics have included the pre-release and the super bowl.
Super bowl? You mean the Seahawks game?

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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:38 pm

As I didnt play around when faeries were legal, how the deck played and what was typical deck?
The deck ran the Faerie core (Spellstutter Sprite, Scion of Oona, Vendilion Clique, Mistbind Clique) with Thoughtseize, Bitterblossom, and Cryptic Command. Add Mutavault, some more permission and removal and that's the deck. It's pure control with brutal tempo advantages. almost everything is done on your opponents turn and you bite at their life total until they die. Modern versions now have access to Batterskull and Wurmcoil Engine as misers anti-aggro win-cons.

The thing about Mistbind Clique is that it's really overpowered when Bitterblossom is legal. Not only does Champion not target, but if you have multiple Faeries out then its impossible to fizzle,
especially since enchantments are already hard to remove.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:42 pm

But! Birthing Pod will remain a hard matchup, and Nacatl presents a traditionally bad matchup as well.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:43 pm

Jund will readapt and also gains access to Bitterblossom
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