[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[hamfactorial]

I've always liked permanent-based solutions out of the SB when I play aggro (what else would I play?) against combo like Twin.

I prefer to find 1/2 CMC stuff, then drop it on the turn they're trying to go off. Leaving up mana for removal as an aggro deck in case they have it is very restrictive.

Illness, Spellskite, Torpor Orb, etc. let me drop it and get back to beating down.

[hamfactorial]

As white I enjoyed Suppression Field, Runed Halo and Linvala.

[Mcdonalds]

Male rights activists are a thing?

[Mcdonalds]

ARCADE FIRE IS PLAYING ON MY COMPUTERRRRRRRR

What are you, 12?

[LP, of the Fires]

I take out memnites, ensoul artifacts, a signal pest, steel overseers aaaaaand something else. It could honestly bee the island.

[Jamie]

You can't win if you have fear

[Jamie]

truly i am the clock king

Did you really think saying something so close to cock king was a good idea?

[Jamie]

piss off m8
ill bash ur fookin 'ead in i swear2me mum

[BlakLanner]

I'll probably post both here and Sally(since there are actually people there to talk to affinity about).

Be careful what you wish for. I sometimes go to Sally to check up on the Burn thread (cuz I end up talking to the same 3 people here) and always regret it. Like, I'll read a page of posts and just want to kill myself because of the stupidity.

And then I come back here and want to kill myself because of the stupidity.

I feel your pain. I am trying to explain to this moron in the Legacy Burn thead why we don't want to splash two colors just to deal with a few oddball threats now that Cruise is banned and the old meta with Wasteland everywhere on its way back. I must enjoy pain or something.

[Lightning_Dolt]

So team italia is a bad idea? lol

[Lightning_Dolt]

hardcore.

Day and night he talks, each word more useless than the next...

[BlakLanner]

So team italia is a bad idea? lol

While I am not so sure Team Italia is a good idea anyway, that isn't what he was suggesting. He wanted a burn deck with a few white/blue/black cards to answer Iona, Grislebrand, Emrakul, and Leyline not a value deck that just happens to have some burn spells in it.

[hamfactorial]

That's odd. Is he trying to fight Legacy reanimator?

[Lightning_Dolt]

I meant that the resurgence of Wasteland probably makes 4 colour midrange a bad plan.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Loving this in testing:

[deck]Creatures:20
4 Bloodsoaked Champion
4 Sultai Emissary
2 Tymaret, the Murder King
4 Flamewake Phoenix
4 Butcher of the Horde
2 Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury

Spells:17
3 Chained to the Rocks
4 Raise the Alarm
4 Crackling Doom
4 Hordeling Outburst
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor

Lands:23
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Evolving Wilds
1 Mana Confluence
4 Mountain
4 Nomad Outpost
1 Plains
1 Swamp
3 Temple of Silence
3 Temple of Triumph

Sideboard:15
2 Erase
3 Wild Slash
2 Glare of Heresy
2 Arc Lightning
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Outpost Siege
1 Dictate of Erebos[/deck]

[Mcdonalds]

I meant that the resurgence of Wasteland probably makes 4 colour midrange a bad plan.

Deathblade (which has nominally been 4 colors) has been a thing inspite of wasteland

If you are refering the mardu deck, I wouldn't count it as 4 colors, the green is there for value (being able to occasionally eat a creature here or there to mitigate lifeloss against an aggressive deck or against a dredge/reanimator strategy is fairly useful when needed), and you can still do what you need to with out green.

Think of it as a swamp that dies to wasteland randomly

[Valdarith]

Loving this in testing:

[deck]Creatures:20
4 Bloodsoaked Champion
4 Sultai Emissary
2 Tymaret, the Murder King
4 Flamewake Phoenix
4 Butcher of the Horde
2 Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury

Spells:17
3 Chained to the Rocks
4 Raise the Alarm
4 Crackling Doom
4 Hordeling Outburst
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor

Lands:23
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Evolving Wilds
1 Mana Confluence
4 Mountain
4 Nomad Outpost
1 Plains
1 Swamp
3 Temple of Silence
3 Temple of Triumph

Sideboard:15
3 Erase
3 Wild Slash
1 Glare of Heresy
2 Arc Lightning
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Outpost Siege
1 Dictate of Erebos[/deck]

I don't understand why you're running Kolaghan over Stormbreath.

[BlakLanner]

Probably because it boosts his other attackers and has 5 toughness.

[LP, of the Fires]

#reasons

[LP, of the Fires]

Dig through time is the best magic card until it whiffs.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Probably because it boosts his other attackers and has 5 toughness.

This. Plus, recently people have been playing around my Stormbreaths pretty effectively. Looking for synergy.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Also dodges Elspeth / End Hostilities, which came up.

Me: Attack with Butcher + tokens

Him: untap, End Hostilities

Me: Untap, play land, Kolaghan dashed

Him: Untap, Elspeth, makes irrelevant tokes

Me: Untap, Kolaghan dashed for lethal.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Stormbreath Dragon might just be better, but he's been DTR a lot recently. Kolaghan has been decent enough to warrant further testing.

[Lightning_Dolt]

When manifest hits a creature, it's gas. Highlight of my night was chump blocking with two Sultai Emissary's and manifesting two Rabblemasters then cracking back for 12.

[Kaitscralt]

i mean it's a cool card but is it really blowing out the scrumps with the fat body and lifegain?

Actually it's the fat body and the drain life, but yes

[Kaitscralt]

Loving this in testing:

[deck]Creatures:20
4 Bloodsoaked Champion
4 Sultai Emissary
2 Tymaret, the Murder King
4 Flamewake Phoenix
4 Butcher of the Horde
2 Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury

Spells:17
3 Chained to the Rocks
4 Raise the Alarm
4 Crackling Doom
4 Hordeling Outburst
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor

Lands:23
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Evolving Wilds
1 Mana Confluence
4 Mountain
4 Nomad Outpost
1 Plains
1 Swamp
3 Temple of Silence
3 Temple of Triumph

Sideboard:15
3 Erase
3 Wild Slash
1 Glare of Heresy
2 Arc Lightning
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Outpost Siege
1 Dictate of Erebos[/deck]

I don't understand why you're running Kolaghan over Stormbreath.

have you heard of the budg caj king

[Kaitscralt]

Stormbreath Dragon might just be better, but he's been DTR a lot recently. Kolaghan has been decent enough to warrant further testing.

I think in the DTR game, Stormbreath survives more removal with pro white than KOLAGHAN does with Dash, so not sure what's up

[LP, of the Fires]

Tell your playtest partners to add more valorous stances to there decks like they should and you'll appreciate stormbreath more.

[LP, of the Fires]

After thinking for a while about it, I think the best home for monasatery mentor is probably Mardu colors. It plays excellently with thoughtseize and instant speed removal and for CA, there are finally enough incidental pieces to justify tormenting voice.

Mardu also has access to the widest swath of Planeswalkers which also pair well with mentor since sorin's and anthem for all your tokens and Chandra helps push them through combat steps.

[LP, of the Fires]

Posted this when talking about potential ajundi builds:

[deck]1 Ajani Vengeant
4 Siege Rhino
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Lingering Souls
3 Liliana of the Veil
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Scavenging Ooze
1 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Path to Exile[/deck]

Found this while studying junk manabases on Modo:

[deck=]Creatures
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Courser of Kruphix
4 Siege Rhino

2 Lingering Souls
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Ajani Vengeant
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Abrupt Decay
1 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Path to Exile

3 Blackcleave Cliffs
1 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Forest
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Marsh Flats
3 Raging Ravine
1 Blood Crypt
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Godless Shrine
1 Temple Garden
1 Grove of the Burnwillows
1 Stirring Wildwood

1 Thoughtseize
2 Timely Reinforcements
2 Aven Mindcensor
2 Anger of the Gods
2 Golgari Charm
2 Stony Silence
3 Fulminator Mage
1 Slaughter Games[/deck]

Other then the sideboard being a little off and having 1 less black source then I prefer, I actually like the look of this deck and was pleasantly surprised to find someone grindy successfully with it(same game played this deck across all the modern dailies to cash finishes).

[Valdarith]

These four color decks have my Blood Moons licking their chops.

[Khaospawn]

The Man in the Blood Moon is hungry.

[Kaitscralt]

I see no real point in playing 4 colors or Jund in general, not with BBE imprisoned

Accept your life of Rhino. Rhino is good, Rhino is safe. Rhino is BBE that always hits Blightning.

[Kaitscralt]

There is the weirdest formatting error going on with LP's decklist that I can't edit out for the life of me.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Stormbreath Dragon might just be better, but he's been DTR a lot recently. Kolaghan has been decent enough to warrant further testing.

I think in the DTR game, Stormbreath survives more removal with pro white than KOLAGHAN does with Dash, so not sure what's up

The times that she's died have mostly been to things tgat kill SBD anyway.

I like the anthem and bounce effects. I might just be wrong though.

[Kaitscralt]

SHOOT HER!! SHOOT HER!!!

[Lightning_Dolt]

Tell your playtest partners to add more valorous stances to there decks like they should and you'll appreciate stormbreath more.

Don't know that VS will replace Hero's Downfall / Murderous Cut.

[Khaospawn]

Even Nedry knew not to mess with the Rhino fences!

[Khaospawn]

Welcome to Rhinoceros Park!

[Kaitscralt]

it depends on what kind of clever rhino girl they cooked up in that lab