[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[redthirst]

At this point, he probably has squatter's rights in the shame hole.

[Kazekirimaru]

Possible art for potential Magma Jet reprint???

Scrying tears of joy.

[redthirst]

Kaze wins best pun.

[Self Medicated]

At this point, he probably has squatter's rights in the shame hole.

lol @ squatter

[hamfactorial]

I'm going to goldfish with Z's RDW idea, it seems extraordinarily fun.

[Khaospawn]

There's nothing like a good, deep squat inside a dirty shame hole.

[photodyer]

Possible art for potential Magma Jet reprint???

Scrying tears of joy.

Actually, she is part of the art dump for Akros, which is the Boros-like city. She is labeled on Sally as "Flamespeaker".

This, however, looks like a magma-based red spell...

[TubeHunter]

Magma Squirt?

[Khaospawn]

You call that a magma based red spell?

Magma Squirt?

Now that's a magma based red spell.

[Jack]

Possible art for potential Magma Jet reprint???

Scrying tears of joy.

Actually, she is part of the art dump for Akros, which is the Boros-like city. She is labeled on Sally as "Flamespeaker".

This, however, looks like a magma-based red spell...

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It was in Wizards planeswalker 's Guide, under a paragraph talking about prophecy. The flamespeakers are prophets. It keeps looking better!

[Platypus]

Magma Jet is in the upcoming Heroes vs Monsters duel deck as well. It's starting to look very plausible to me.

[Khaospawn]

I just Scryed my pants.

[Alex]

Its a shame they didn't reprint Electrolyze in Return to Ravnica block, because having Electrolyze and Magma Jet in the same Standard format would be boner-inducing.

No seriously, every deck I play would have Aetherling and Young Pyromancer in it. Forever and always.

[Alex]

Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant Swords to Plowshares seems fair and likely, though.

[Jack]

Smells like bullshit

[Valdarith]

Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant Swords to Plowshares seems fair and likely, though.

I'm confused. Are they saying that all the duals will have an effect like Nimbus Maze, or are they saying that they are going to reprint Grove, River, etc?

[PirateKingAtomsk]

Magma Squirt?

Thirst has this problem(?) all the time

[Alex]

Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant Swords to Plowshares seems fair and likely, though.

I'm confused. Are they saying that all the duals will have an effect like
Nimbus Maze, or are they saying that they are going to reprint Grove, River, etc?

I was unclear on that too. Hopefully they're just wrong entirely. I really don't want mana to continue to be THIS good anymore, I'm tired of playing around tri-color decks with perfect mana.

[PirateKingAtomsk]

Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant [card]Swords
to Plowshares[/card] seems fair and likely, though.

I'm confused. Are they saying that all the duals will have an effect like Nimbus Maze, or are they saying that they are going to reprint Grove, River, etc?

I was unclear on that too. Hopefully they're just wrong entirely. I really don't want mana to continue to be THIS good anymore, I'm tired of playing around tri-color decks with perfect mana.

But 14 damage for 4 mana is awesome

[rcwraspy]

EDIT: Snip. Because stupid is as stupid does.

[redthirst]

Shocks and Nimbus Maze cycle is slightly worse for a 3-color deck than Shocks and Checklands. It's the same to slightly better for 2-color, since it doesn't come in tapped but can only create colorless unless you have the basic type(s) in play.

How it's slightly worse than checklands in 3-color decks:

Overgrown Tomb gives Swamp/Forest
Play Rootbound Crag untapped because Forest
Play Dragonskull Summit untapped because Swamp

Overgrown Tomb gives Swamp/Forest
Red/Green Nimbus can only produce green or colorless
Red/Black Nimbus can only produce black or colorless

You don't get to tap either for red until you have a mountain type in play.

Overgrown gives B/G
RG Nimbus gives R because you have a Forest
RB Nimbus gives R because you have
a Swamp

You still get all 3, you just don't get access to a second B or G until you drop a Mountain.

[TubeHunter]

damn right

[rcwraspy]

Shocks and Nimbus Maze cycle is slightly worse for a 3-color deck than Shocks and Checklands. It's the same to slightly better for 2-color, since it doesn't come in tapped but can only create colorless unless you have the basic type(s) in play.

How it's slightly worse than checklands in 3-color decks:

Overgrown Tomb gives Swamp/Forest
Play Rootbound Crag untapped because Forest
Play Dragonskull Summit untapped because Swamp

Overgrown Tomb gives Swamp/Forest
Red/Green Nimbus can only produce green or colorless
Red/Black Nimbus can only produce black or colorless

You don't get to tap either for
red until you have a mountain type in play.

Overgrown gives B/G
RG Nimbus gives R because you have a Forest
RB Nimbus gives R because you have a Swamp

You still get all 3, you just don't get access to a second B or G until you drop a Mountain.

lol derp. you're right, of course.

[redthirst]

I'm with PKA, though. My Burning Earths and I want people to continue to play 25nonbasicland.dec

[hamfactorial]

I'd be very pleased to have a full Nimbus cycle for all the color pairs.

[TubeHunter]

i would be ambivalent

[Kazekirimaru]

I'd be very pleased to have a full Nimbus cycle for all the color pairs.

All of my /barn

[Valdarith]

I'd like it to be the entire cycle of Future Sight lands personally. Grove of the Burnwillows and Horizon Canopy reprint? Hell yeah.

Of course I'm dreaming and that will never happen.

[Khaospawn]

I'd like it to be the entire cycle of Future Sight lands personally. Grove of the Burnwillows and Horizon Canopy reprint? Hell yeah.

Of course I'm dreaming and that will never happen.

If the mission to send a T-800 back in time to kill Sarah Connor succeeds, then the future as we anticipate may very well never happen. In layman's terms, we may never see some of these future cards.

[Kazekirimaru]

Horizon Canopy will likely never be reprinted.

[Kazekirimaru]

Except in some MTG FtV shit.

[zemanjaski]

Things break, they heal.

[windstrider]

Magma Jet spoiler?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533543

Uses the leonin art.

[Jack]

HELL YEAH!

[Kazekirimaru]

Seems legit to me.

[Kazekirimaru]

On second thought I think they're both fake.

The timing is too suspicious.

[Alex]

Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to
believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant Swords to Plowshares seems fair and likely, though.

I'm confused. Are they saying that all the duals will have an effect like Nimbus Maze, or are they saying that they are going to reprint Grove, River, etc?

I was unclear on that too. Hopefully they're just wrong entirely. I really don't want mana to continue to be THIS good anymore, I'm tired of playing around tri-color decks with perfect mana.

But 14 damage for 4 mana is awesome

Despite all of the work I've done for these forums, you'd be surprised to know that it isn't a labor of love. I'm not a huge mono red advocate, I just happen to have a lot of experience building all kinds of decks, and mono red lists come together easily.

I'm actually a really big control player. I want to kill people
with Celestial Colonnades and Creeping Tar Pits in every format if possible. Day of Judgment is one of my favorite cards. I like playing control decks that feature red and white. I like board wipes in general.

Never been all that big on turning dudes sideways. It's OK if you guys are ashamed of me.

[Kazekirimaru]

The shamehole just opened up a vacancy.

[Valdarith]

Streaming mono red pyromancer now:

http://www.twitch.tv/valdarith

[Alex]

The shamehole just opened up a vacancy.

I'm going to play my Cedric Phillips card here.

"Hey, I went to a Pro Tour once, that means I know more than you!"