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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:18 am
by LP, of the Fires
Cantrips by archetype, by LP :teach:

Combo>Ponder. Lets you see the most amount of cards possible(up to four) while giving you the best ability to set up.

Control>Preordain. Lets you see less cards, but gives you the best digging ability and information.

Tempo>Ponder/brainstorm. Ponder lets you set up your delvers(biggest incentive to play tempo) and brainstorm is an instant.

Brainstorm. Fine, though unexciting card without shuffle affects. Broken with shuffle affects. If your deck has no way to shuffle itself, I'd pick another cantrip first as brainstorm locking yourself is a very real way to lose and then tilt.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:19 am
by zemanjaski
Cantrips by archetype, by LP :teach:

Combo>Ponder. Lets you see the most amount of cards possible(up to four) while giving you the best ability to set up.

Control>Preordain. Lets you see less cards, but gives you the best digging ability and information.

Tempo>Ponder/brainstorm. Ponder lets you set up your delvers(biggest incentive to play tempo) and brainstorm is an instant.

Brainstorm. Fine, though unexciting card without shuffle affects. Broken with shuffle affects. If your deck has no way to shuffle itself, I'd pick another cantrip first as brainstorm locking yourself is a very real way to lose and then tilt.
+1

Preordain
on turn 5+ is just ridiculous.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:02 am
by DarthStabber
@zeman; Have you considered aura flux? It's subtle, but any deck that uses enchantments will be severly hampered by it's presence. Against hexproof it's almost a lock if you hit it (especially if you can protect it).

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:50 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Scrumper here! It's such an honor to be a part of the male brotherhood FoS! Every time my girlfriend whines about me growing up to be a father to our upcoming twins, I think about you bros and everything is right. I'm amped for FNM. I promise you that I will get Top 3 this week! I will show the world that Red is the best color in Magic!

My girlfriend is yelling at me to get off the internet. Do you bros have any suggestions on what I can say to her to leave me alone? I told her I'm going to be a pro Magic player like zemanjaski and she laughed at me! The nerve of that woman!
Is your computer in the kitchen?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:17 am
by DarthStabber
Either make a kitchen joke or tell her not to piss on your dreams, and if she insists tell her to piss off. Even if it's unlikely it's not her job to poo poo, and you don't deserve to have your pursuits belittled in such a manner. Seriously if she can't handle it she can go fuck herself, you deserve some one who either supports you or at least has the goddamn common fucking courtesy to allow you one little harmless pipedream and leave it alone. So long as you aren't shirking other responsibilities, or spending money flagrantly, you aren't hurting anyone.

Be wary, if she gets too controlling don't hesitate to dump her. I have dumped people for less.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:18 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Spoken like a true Todd Anderson.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:21 am
by DarthStabber
Todd anderson?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:32 am
by DocLawless
Live together and fuck a lot. If you're not compatible in both regards you won't make it.
Despite the manner of delivery, this is excellent advice :smileup:
That's how I roll: decent advice delivered questionably.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:49 am
by RedNihilist
Scrumper here! It's such an honor to be a part of the male brotherhood FoS! Every time my girlfriend whines about me growing up to be a father to our upcoming twins, I think about you bros and everything is right. I'm amped for FNM. I promise you that I will get Top 3 this week! I will show the world that Red is the best color in Magic!

My girlfriend is yelling at me to get off the internet. Do you bros have any suggestions on what I can say to her to leave me alone? I told her I'm going to be a pro Magic player like zemanjaski and she laughed at me! The nerve of that woman!
Is
your computer in the kitchen?
:rofl:

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:18 am
by Kazekirimaru
[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=156576#p156576:30dwgari]DarthStabber ยป Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:17 am[/url:30dwgari]":30dwgari]Either make a kitchen joke or tell her not to piss on your dreams, and if she insists tell her to piss off. Even if it's unlikely it's not her job to poo poo, and you don't deserve to have your pursuits belittled in such a manner. Seriously if she can't handle it she can go fuck herself, you deserve some one who either supports you or at least has the goddamn common fucking courtesy to allow you one little harmless pipedream and leave it alone. So long as you aren't shirking other responsibilities, or spending money flagrantly, you aren't hurting anyone.

Be wary, if she gets too controlling don't hesitate to dump her. I have dumped people for less.[/quote:30dwgari]
Feeding the troll, feeding the troll.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:41 am
by DarthStabber
Doesn't it have to be facetious to be trolling?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:47 am
by zemanjaski
Spoken like a true Todd Anderson.
Everyone stop. JS already locked out all other jokes. Brutal.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:18 am
by DarthStabber
No seriously, who the fuck is todd anderson?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:10 am
by Christen
Just dropping to say I'm not dead, just hanging around taking a break from card slinging. On the other hand, I've been active again on GW2.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:12 am
by RaidaTheBlade
Hey, I'm going to an IQ this weekend, and need training against mono-u....

ANybody willing to teach me how to use cockatrice and then grind train me? :o

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:13 am
by LP, of the Fires
No seriously, who the fuck is todd anderson?
Read this and you'll know why Z hates Todd Anderson and why I at least will likely never be a fan http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc ... Magic.html

Edit: literally googled todd Anderson Magic, then wife came up along with this article.

Double Edit: after perusing it a bit, I hate Todd for having the gall to write that article.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:20 am
by RaidaTheBlade
I see what he was trying to accomplish with it, but it just feels like a blatant: "PLEASE LOVE ME AND FEEL ABD FOR ME AND READ MY ARTICLE SO I GET MONEY" piece...

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:26 am
by LP, of the Fires
@Z: Editing is hard :gonk:

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:56 am
by RaidaTheBlade
Well, in other news I have successfully learned the basics of cockatrice now, god help me.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:02 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Well, in other news I have successfully learned the basics of cockatrice now, god help me.
Send me a message if you see me on there, we can play some matches.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:06 am
by RaidaTheBlade
I played one match and decided that was enough for right now. I have a final in a few hours that I need to study for :P
Maybe later today, lol

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:12 pm
by windstrider
@Z: Editing is hard :gonk:
Yup. :D

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:23 pm
by zemanjaski
I think you're all going to be VERY happy with the finished product. I know I will be.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:32 pm
by windstrider
Did you have a chance to read through my edits? I'm curious (dying) to know what you think of them.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:55 pm
by zemanjaski
Updated Pauper MUC:

[deck]
Creatures
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Spire Golem

Instants
4 Counterspell
4 Deprive
3 Essence Scatter
4 Exclude
2 Mana Leak
2 Oona's Grace
2 Repeal
1 Rewind
4 Think Twice

Sorceries
4 Preordain

Lands
18 Island
4 Quicksand

Sideboard
3 Curse of Chains
3 Curse of the Blood Tome
1 Deep Analysis
4 Hydroblast
2 Piracy Charm
2 Serrated Arrows
[/deck]

Things I learned:
- 4 mana leak is too many. Its an amazing card, but this deck wins so slowly that they become dead too often late.
- Essence Scatter is incredibly well positioned in the format. Its better than Prohibit as there are a lot of relevant cards that cost 3+. Doesn't matter how much mana a Tron player has, for 1U, Ulamog's Crusher is going away
- I wanted to see Oona's Grace more, card
is bonkers
- 3 Repeal was too many

Sideboarding into a mill deck is also very good. That's -4 Delver, -4 Golem; +2 Piracy Charm, +3 Curse of the Bloody Tome; +1 Deep Analysis, +2 Serrated Arrows. You gain huge CA from blanking all of your opponent's removal.

I could see a further -1 Mana Leak, +1 Rewind.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:59 pm
by zemanjaski
Did you have a chance to read through my edits? I'm curious (dying) to know what you think of them.
Incredibly helpful actually. You were ruthless with your cuts and really helped me get in under the threshold (well, close enough, we got down to 2204, from 2749 starting). I thought you did an excellent job of keeping my meaning and way of conversing; Helios did a nice job of actually attacking some of my writing flaws so that I will be an improved writer next time (thanks again :hugs:) and Redthirst had some very insightful pointers to help me better convey meaning. I learned from everyone that my language is a bit lazy

:stubborn:

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:20 pm
by redthirst
I'm a better meaning conveying mother fucker, mother fucker.

Every time these hands touch keyboard I'm super-fly TNT! I'm The Guns of the Navarone!

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:26 pm
by windstrider
Did you have a chance to read through my edits? I'm curious (dying) to know what you think of them.
Incredibly helpful actually. You were ruthless with your cuts and really helped me get in under the threshold (well, close enough, we got down to 2204, from 2749 starting). I thought you did an excellent job of keeping my meaning and way of conversing; Helios did a nice job of actually attacking some of my writing flaws so that I will be an improved writer next time (thanks again :hugs:) and Redthirst had some very insightful pointers to help me better convey meaning. I learned from
everyone that my language is a bit lazy

:stubborn:
Excellent. I am glad that you found them useful. I worried about being too ruthless with some of the cuts. It's something I teach in business writing and with a lot of argument essays: cut 10%, then cut 10% more to get to the real meaning you wish to convey. It helped that I'm not emotionally invested in the writing.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:18 pm
by Calamity
Can't wait for the new CFB article Z

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:23 pm
by hamfactorial
I'm a better meaning conveying mother fucker, mother fucker.

Every time these hands touch keyboard I'm super-fly TNT! I'm The Guns of the Navarone!
Oh, man, I will never forgive your ass for this shit. This is some fucked-up repugnant shit.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:32 pm
by Wraith223
No seriously, who the fuck is todd anderson?
Read this and you'll know why Z hates Todd Anderson and why I at least will likely never be a fan http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc ... Magic.html
:o What a whinny douche bag. Following your dreams to play a card game while your wife works to support you? Writing an article to support his need to be a leech on his wife? :no:

Channel Fireball needs to dump this turd and earn some self respect.


On another subject, I am considering National Guard (officer) or Dallas PD. TSA and Border Patrol have been keeping me in suspense for way to long (1 year 4 months) and think it will not happen due to Government Budget crisis. National Guard sounds great but the work schedule sounds weird and it sounds part Time? Dallas PD looks really good and the PT is not designed for special forces. I tried San Antonio PD, but cross fit sucks (they really focus on it to much, you can get injured easily just in training).

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:40 pm
by redthirst
IN FACT, WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOIN' IN THE BACK? YOU'RE THE MOTHERFUCKER WHO SHOULD BE ON EDITING DETAIL! We're fuckin' switchin'! I'm washin' the windows, and you're checkin' this n-word's (apparently both versions are on some forum filter) grammar!

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:43 pm
by redthirst
Now I need to watch that movie again - so many good lines.

Vincent: Jules, did you ever hear the philosophy that once a man admits that he's wrong that he is immediately forgiven for all wrongdoings? Have you ever heard that?

Jules: Get the fuck out my face with that shit! The motherfucker that said that shit never had to pick up itty-bitty pieces of skull on account of your dumb ass.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:44 pm
by DocLawless
My tongue turned to silly putty in my mouth. My shoes filled with lead and I couldn't move. I couldn't breathe. "I have to be off on Labor Day. I can't miss this tournament. Isn't there anything you can do?"

His reply was a slow shake of his head and a muttered "Sorry." I felt like yelling. I felt like telling him to go screw himself. I felt like dying. Instead I just turned around clocked out and went home.

I didn't go back.
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!1!!!one!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I wanna quit my job and play Magic too! No, finding a job that I don't have to work weekends for is out of the question.
I will accept nothing less than full unemployment. All I need is a wife who thinks my happiness and my not wanting to take adult responsibilities is the same thing!

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:46 pm
by redthirst
One M:tG tournament > employment

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:49 pm
by hamfactorial
The jobs he mentioned were pizza delivery and some vague job in a restaurant. Likely a line cook or a busser.

Does the man really have anything else going on? If he can pull in $20k at a tournament once a year, he's probably making more than a full time unskilled laborer and spending less time. He doesn't have a degree of any kind, if I read the article correctly.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:00 pm
by Valdarith
Thank God he's not a father. And with his attitude I hope he never is. I've missed so many things I wanted to do on account of a family matter that I've lost count, but this guy can't miss ONE tournament for some stupid card game so he can DO HIS JOB?!?!

I was infuriated when I read that article months ago, and I still am. What a piece of shit.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:04 pm
by hamfactorial
Having to go to work is really getting in the way of my dream of not having to go to work.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:05 pm
by DocLawless
Once upon a time I had nothing going for me aside from being a dishwasher at Denny's and a venue Storyteller in the Camarilla Fan Club overseeing the entire Great Lakes region. I missed major conventions because I had to work. If I had gone, and with enough ass-kissing, I may have ended up working/writing for White Wolf (and I'm glad I didn't go that route because White Wolf shut it's doors not long after that time in my life). I'm not faulting him for the end result, I just can't get behind the way he decided to get there.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:10 pm
by Wraith223
I read his article and thought I was reading the new Tom Hanks 2013 "BIG" movie script.