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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:20 am

I literally can't lose in pauper, 14-0 with this version.
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Postby Helios » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:38 am

I'm under the impression that burn is terrible in legacy right now 'cause of Show n' Tell/lots of combo decks burn can't interact with
This is accurate. Painted Stone is the red deck of choice atm, largely because it has main-deck S&T hate.

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Postby Alex » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:41 am

I'm under the impression that burn is terrible in legacy right now 'cause of Show n' Tell/lots of combo decks burn can't interact with
Correct. However, this doesn't prevent people from playing burn in the tournament. If you don't have byes for the first couple of rounds you do have to consider it, since you could very well play against it all three of your first rounds and just get knocked out of the tournament randomly.

Alex, are you saying UB Control needs to nutdraw, or RUG Delver? My experience is that its slightly RUG Delver sided, but they're unlikely to have any
experience against the archetype, which pushes it towards even.
You as a UB player should have to nutdraw, or at least that was my experience when playing basically the same deck. (I played the version that played Chrome Mox instead of one of the Innocent Bloods.) I always felt stupidly soft to the mana tax in the RUG matchup, like I didn't have a chance to get off of the ground unless I stuck the T2 Crucible. If they flip the Delver on you and you're not holding the Blood your only other option is to hope that you can Brainstorm into one quickly through their limited permission.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:00 am

Turn 1 Delver when I am on the draw without Innocent Blood is:
- on the draw (50%);
- they have Delver in hand (42% x 50%);
- I don't have Innocent Blood (50% x 42% x 50%)

= 12% or about 1 in 8 games. That seems OK.
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Postby Alex » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:18 am

That might be the difference. I was playing only 2 Innocent Blood.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:19 am

Its a big deal sure, even then, I am not claiming a good matchup, just a fair one. The UWR matchup is much better (they don't have Stifle, Tarmogoyf; they have 4 maindeck Swords which are blanks).
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Postby Alex » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:28 am

I might just have to jump on the Alex Bertoncheaty train and play Esper Blade, 'cause I now remember how fucking gay Lingering Souls is after glancing over some recent legacy results. Yuck.

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Postby Alex » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:30 am

Also there is Notion Thief in this deck. Sorry James, but you can't beat that level of swag.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:31 am

I used to run one myself. It is inconsistent but very instant-win if it resolves.
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Postby Alex » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:35 am

Also I just remembered the 2014 GP Batterskull art is coming soon. Oh my god hurry up already 2014.

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Postby magicdownunder » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:35 am

I literally can't lose in pauper, 14-0 with this version.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:39 am

I need to get busy...stupid job.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:39 am

I have 16 QPs.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:14 am

Current rating: 1914 :')
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Postby magicdownunder » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:19 am

Current rating: 1914 :')
Nice, my rating took a plunge two days ago when I was trying to get AiR and Naya to work :P (1823).
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:26 am

Serves you right! :D
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Postby Alex » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:32 am

Gonna get some tix tomorrow and do some preliminary testing for my UB infect list, I sleeved it up but Modern didn't launch tonight so meh. A lot of people are out of town right now, I guess.

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Postby Alex » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:34 am

Also looking to borrow any of the cards in the list to lighten the blow.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:56 am

That feel when you repeal a creature to your opponent's hand on their end step and they have to discard it >:)
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:23 pm

“When angels are forced out of heaven, they become devils. You agree, don’t you Spike?”

“I'm just watching a bad dream I never wake up from.”

“I’ll wake you up right now.”
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:38 pm

Also I just remembered the 2014 GP Batterskull art is coming soon. Oh my god hurry up already 2014.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:43 pm

18-0.

Holy fuck are blue cards overpowered.
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Postby windstrider » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:46 pm

Trigun is on Netflix. This is a very good thing.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:49 pm

Show is insane.

Knives Millions, fuck that guy.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:51 pm

Now I have the music in my head.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:52 pm

Fuck it im watching Vash confront Logato again.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:53 pm

"Im feeling a bit down, I could use a pick me up. I know, i'll watch Neon Genesis: Evangelion" said no one ever.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:59 pm

Misato is my fave.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:01 pm

I rate Misato and Preordain about the same.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:10 pm

The humanoid typhoon.

The first man to be classified as a natural disaster.

Vash the Stampede.

The sixty billion double-dollar man.
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Postby Platypus » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:21 pm

Ehh...we need a new number: 7 - Doesn't make any sense zem
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:42 pm

I don't think I've had a single person play Preordain correctly against me.
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Postby redthirst » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:49 pm

zem has clearly gone mad with power.
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Postby photodyer » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:55 pm

8 - Speaking in Tongues Zem
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:59 pm

To quote a great man "get on my level"
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Postby DroppinSuga » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:59 pm

I'm curious as to how to play Preordain correctly
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Postby DroppinSuga » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:00 pm

I've used Preordain as an opening play when I keep a sketchy hand. I've also used it to set up my Delver flip. Those are both probably wrong. :shrug:
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:06 pm

Dare I write an article on a blue card?

Briefly:
- preordain + 1 land is a poor keep
- if you're playing a MUC or Kilnclops deck, then yeah, setting up your flip is incorrect. Both decks have a ~50% hit rate anyway, so having good draws is more important. You're not always winning on the back of a Delver.
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Postby windstrider » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:23 pm

Confession: I'm actually new to Trigun. My wife, however, has seen it, so we watched six episodes of it last night. Anime titles were difficult to come by. Most rental places didn't have them, and when they did, they'd be missing episodes. My wife was semi-lucky to have a friend who was obsessive about anime, so she has seen quite a bit of it. (I say semi since he's a bit of a tool otherwise.)

To balance it out, though, she hadn't seen The Godfather and quite a few other movies before she met me.
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