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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:30 am
by zemanjaski
The Errant Ephemeron is the best in the absract; the problem is that they can 2-for-1 themselves to block it down; you're then back in the board stall. Sure, you're up on CA, but it doesn't matter when each player draws most of his deck. The issue is the neither side can effectively fight through a 2/4 body; even if I ran bonesplitter, you still run into the issue of them 2-for-1 themeselves and stabalze; since the only thing you need to stop are Spire Golems. The mill enchant is decent, but I only have 1 sideboard slot to dedicate, so it goes too much against my primary winconditon (damage), that if I don't draw it early, its kinda pointless.

Alex came up with the brilliant idea of a 2/2 unblockable, and oddly enough, it does everything you need it to. I can already win the games that go long (like, 90% of them anyway) through Repeal + Arrows loop; but those games take forever; having a
1-of that will win the game 5+ turns faster would save me a lot of issues with the clock (I posted a pic before of winning with 0 seconds on the clock!).

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:31 am
by windstrider
Tinnitus sucks. I do not like. :no2:

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:41 am
by DarthStabber
I love watching the magic show when he has some one on to poop on his dreams. I like Evan and all, but it's just funny to see his hopes crushed.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:51 am
by zemanjaski
I like that my issue with the deck is only "doesn't win fast enough in the mirror".

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:29 am
by DarthStabber
I am really hoping that the metagame shifts heavily toward your control decks, mostly because it scares out my bad match ups, that being said since I play paper pretty much exclusively it becomes unlikely that modo trends will filter down into the events I am playing in, and I am not particularly interested in electrons.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:56 am
by magicdownunder
The Errant Ephemeron is the best in the absract; the problem is that they can 2-for-1 themselves to block it down; you're then back in the board stall. Sure, you're up on CA, but it doesn't matter when each player draws most of his deck. The issue is the neither side can effectively fight through a 2/4 body; even if I ran bonesplitter, you still run into the issue of them 2-for-1 themeselves and stabalze; since the only thing you need to stop are Spire Golems. The mill enchant is decent, but I only have 1 sideboard slot to dedicate, so it goes too much against my primary winconditon (damage), that if I don't draw it early, its kinda pointless.

Alex came up with the brilliant idea of a 2/2 unblockable, and oddly enough, it does
everything you need it to. I can already win the games that go long (like, 90% of them anyway) through Repeal + Arrows loop; but those games take forever; having a 1-of that will win the game 5+ turns faster would save me a lot of issues with the clock (I posted a pic before of winning with 0 seconds on the clock!).
Wouldn't that just turn on all opposing Quick Sands? if your using 4cc to repeal him, they're most likely to win that counter war.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:03 pm
by zemanjaski
The current ninja list only runs Islands; but that's hardly worth including a card on. Uggggh. Maybe Steel Sabotage?

Bounces or counters their Golem.
Picks up my arrows.
Nice to have vs. Affinity.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:13 pm
by magicdownunder
Times have changed, back when Stompy was big - Delver ran 2x Quicksand. In that case the 2/2 rogue is just fine, though when you play in the PE you'll face real MUC mirrors the sands will wreck him.

Dispel is surely better then Steel Sabotage for that MU no? Though vs Ninja Fae maybe not...

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:27 pm
by Khaospawn
That'd work as far as taking out any Sisters or Hawks on the board, yeah. But you still need to deal with Ajani's Pridemates somehow.There are no answers to Soul Sisters you're being foolish
There is no answer. Only Zuul.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:48 pm
by redthirst
I enjoyed your article, Wraith.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:04 pm
by windstrider
Yes. Well done, wraith. I'm looking forward to the next installment.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:44 pm
by Valdarith
Who has tinnitus?

I was actually sitting in a lecture on a tinnitus study at work last week. Looks like they're trying some new therapy techniques in the study that have been pretty effective.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:45 pm
by redthirst
Good news for Archer.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:48 pm
by redthirst
So I think I might have ticked someone off on Sally by telling them that they were Marty McFly - here from the 80's.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:59 pm
by hamfactorial
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Luckily I won 2-0; might need a faster way to win mirrors...
I see your 0:00 clock win and raise you a 1 card in library, two 1/1 Delvers on board, must flip to win victory.

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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:06 pm
by zemanjaski
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How fun is this deck!

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:08 pm
by hamfactorial
This deck is ridiculous! Countering stuff is the best :gonk: I am ashamed

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:14 pm
by redthirst
I'd love to be condescending towards you two, but I played Draw-Go through two Standard seasons: Mirage-Tempest to Tempest-Urza's. Then I played it in Extended (which was a legitimate format back then).

30 Counterspells. Felt real good.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:14 pm
by zemanjaski
Repeal your guy, Exclude it makes me feel the right kind of filthy.

Repeal my Delver in response to removal is a close second.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:29 pm
by windstrider
Who has tinnitus?

I was actually sitting in a lecture on a tinnitus study at work last week. Looks like they're trying some new therapy techniques in the study that have been pretty effective.
I'm getting symptoms of it — the high-pitched ringing in the ears — when I wake up at night. It' smacking it damned difficult to sleep. I suspect it has to do with wax buildup in the inner ear, which I've had a problem with.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:40 pm
by Platypus
What is happening to us? You guys are playing MUC, and I'm thinking about running Owling Mine with AEtherlings in the SB...

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:42 pm
by DocLawless
These are dark days...

But I think as long as we're still saying "this pile is retarded" and not "I am such a skilled player" we're still okay.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:45 pm
by redthirst
I'm blue dabu-de dabu-da dabu-deee dabu-da du-dabu-de-dabu-da!

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:51 pm
by RaidaTheBlade
I have a confession to make too... I play mono-u affinity (robots or whatever you wanna call it) in modern :o

It's still aggro though, so I am forgiven yes? :V

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:53 pm
by redthirst
I'm blue dabu-de dabu-da dabu-deee dabu-da du-dabu-de-dabu-da!
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:02 pm
by hamfactorial
red, that's the post of the day

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:04 pm
by Khaospawn
Buncha slackjawed Island lovers around here....

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:05 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I play Mono Blue Control, not Mono Black Control.
I was insinuating you'd run into rogues because rogues somehow.

Oi, mind me not.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:05 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I have a confession to make too... I play mono-u affinity (robots or whatever you wanna call it) in modern :o

It's still aggro though, so I am forgiven yes? :V
I have a confession to make...

I'm white. :frown:

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:06 pm
by Khaospawn
Truth be told, I'd much rather hear you guys ooh and awe over Counterspells and Soul Sisters than this stupid shit involving Duck Dynasty, Christianity, and bigotry. Which is everywhere today.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:16 pm
by redthirst
Breaking News! Back-woods old Christian southern men don't like black people or gays!

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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:18 pm
by redthirst
red, that's the post of the day
Gracias.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:19 pm
by DocLawless
I have a confession to make too... I play mono-u affinity (robots or whatever you wanna call it) in modern :o

It's still aggro though, so I am forgiven yes? :V
I have a confession to make...

I'm white. :frown:
Get the fuck out.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:20 pm
by redthirst
Back to Canada where you belong, snow monkey.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:21 pm
by Khaospawn
What's funny is the amount of people that start saying, "Well he's a Christian, so I feel like I have to support his statement."

Bunch of sheep. I imagine that the late 1930's Germans said something similar about Hitler.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:27 pm
by redthirst
Following someone blindly for arbitrary reasons doesn't make you a sheep.

Playing Magic wrong makes you a sheep.

Wake up sheeple!

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:29 pm
by Kazekirimaru
What's funny is the amount of people that start saying, "Well he's a Christian, so I feel like I have to support his statement."

Bunch of sheep. I imagine that the late 1930's Germans said something similar about Hitler.
Nah, Hitler got support because he was charismatic and a fantastic speaker.

Jesus wasn't...those things...(right?)

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:31 pm
by TubeHunter
What's funny is the amount of people that start saying, "Well he's a Christian, so I feel like I have to support his statement."

Bunch of sheep. I imagine that the late 1930's Germans said something similar about Hitler.
I feel like the hitler part of that argument is fallacy. (not that I don't agree with the bulk of your point) I can't quite remember the name of it though.

EDIT: Yep, Reductio ad Hitlerum.

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/inde ... d-hitlerum

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:36 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Godwin's Law striketh again.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:41 pm
by TubeHunter
how slave we are to these irreparable fates.