[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Kazekirimaru]

There are no safe places anymore.

[Alex]

Seriously though stop wearing it everyday.

I just washed it.

[zemanjaski]

I'm away with pip's extended family who don't know theyre in the presence of an mtg celeb. How unsatisfactory. I should explain to them at length over dinner.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm away with pip's extended family who don't know theyre in the presence of an mtg celeb. How unsatisfactory. I should explain to them at length over dinner.

Tell them about how you're the IRL Grim Lavamancer then burn their dinner to drive the point home.

[zemanjaski]

I like your audacity ani.

[zemanjaski]

I should challenge her uncle to fisticuffs.

[Kazekirimaru]

Take two of their rubbish bins and throw them out the window.

When they ask why you did that punch them in the face twice.

[zemanjaski]

Now we're getting somewhere.

They respect independant thinkers

[Kazekirimaru]

I like your audacity ani.

Every time you say this, I think of this:

[zemanjaski]

I AM SO SORRY

[zemanjaski]

WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY BRAINSTORM IN PAUPER?

[Valdarith]

Variance is not being kind to me tonight. Lost the first games of two straight eight mans.

Also, I'm sick of "Turn one Thoughtseize you." I'm even more sick of the baddies that keep it in against me postboard and still win.

[photodyer]

Thoughtseize is indeed a bit of a home-wrecker...crafting a hand and then losing your pivot card all kinds of sucks.

[DarthStabber]

WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY BRAINSTORM IN PAUPER?

Because people like brainstorm, to illogical levels. It's blue's lightning bolt (though technically that title belongs to ancestral recall since they were in the same cycle), however unlike lightning bolt it is much more contextual, and pauper is an improper context. Of course people love them any 1 mana blue deck manipulator with no card disadvantage.

[deck=FauxSpike'sWetDream]
Do stuff
4 brainstorm
4 ponder
4 preordain
4 serum visions
4 gitaxian probe
4 opt

Don't lose
4 disrupt
4 dismember

actually win
4 shadow rift
4 quirion dryad

Land
4 misty rainforest
4 polluted delta
4 scalding tarn
4 flooded strand
4 tropical island
[/deck]

[DarthStabber]

You know, after putting that together it might not be too bad, had it pretty shitty there for a second, but quirion dryad makes it not completely terrible.

[Alex]

Wins easier with a swamp and Tainted Strike in there somewhere.

[DarthStabber]

Wins easier with a swamp and Tainted Strike in there somewhere.

But tainted strike doesn't draw a card

But if you insist
[deck=FauxSpike'sWetDream mkII]
Do stuff
4 brainstorm
4 ponder
4 preordain
4 serum visions
3 gitaxian probe
4 opt

Don't lose
4 disrupt
4 dismember

actually win
3 shadow rift
2 tainted strike
4 quirion dryad

Land
4 misty rainforest
4 polluted delta
4 scalding tarn
4 flooded strand
2 tropical island
2 underground sea
[/deck]

[magicdownunder]

Variance is not being kind to me tonight. Lost the first games of two straight eight mans.

Also, I'm sick of "Turn one Thoughtseize you." I'm even more sick of the baddies that keep it in against me postboard and still win.

You are aware that many high level players keep some Thoughtseize post board against red right? Hitting high value cards like your 4/4 haste creature, Skullcrack or other anti-lifegain card is a huge swing in their favor.

That player which won the GP with BR actually boarded in TS against red that how strong thoughtseize is, its just all about the timing.

[zemanjaski]

[deck]MUC[/deck]
Creatures
4 Delver of Secrets
2 Sea Gate Oracle
4 Spire Golem

Instants
4 Counterspell
1 Essence Scatter
4 Exclude
3 Gush
3 Logic Knot
4 Piracy Charm
4 Repeal

Sorceries
4 Preordain
4 Serum Visions

Lands
19 Island
[/deck]

I'm legitimately interested in whether Vaporkin would be good and if Repeal is still good on only 19 land. Probably is.

[DarthStabber]

[deck]MUC[/deck]
Creatures
4 Delver of Secrets
2 Sea Gate Oracle
4 Spire Golem

Instants
4 Counterspell
1 Essence Scatter
4 Exclude
3 Gush
3 Logic Knot
4 Piracy Charm
4 Repeal

Sorceries
4 Preordain
4 Serum Visions

Lands
19 Island
[/deck]

I'm legitimately interested in whether Vaporkin would be good and if Repeal is still good on only 19 land. Probably is.

I've been testing him in blue skies against some friends and he works fine there, but in MUC his inability to block a lot of things, and single toughness render him questionable. My question to you Z is why not try blue skies? You are obviously considering moving
in a more aggressive direction, and the cards are there to support it. I don't have a list I'm willing to share at the moment (a little embarrassing), but dropping the tribal synergy from faeries for just more and more efficient aerial beaters isn't panning out so bad.

[Kazekirimaru]

I need a superfun group EDH deck. D:

[NerdBoyWonder]

Christmas shopping has been conquered. Things have been nuts. Car backed out of a parking spot and ran over an old lady. Now back to netflix and Firefly marathon.

@Darth, we tried to start Pauper (standard pauper only sadly) and it never caught on. EDH took its place.

[zemanjaski]

Every blue skies deck I've seen is terrible. So unless the community as a whole is too dim to figure it out without me, then I conclude there isn't a good deck there.

[zemanjaski]

I see too many people trying to be aggressive by playing weak cards. Zephyr Sprite, Cloud of Faeries, Frostburn Weird etc. all suck.

[magicdownunder]

For those who play pauper, has Perilous Research Affinity completely taken over the Disciple variants and the horrible white metal Craft variants?


EDIT: Anyone missing MonoBlue Cloud Post? Shame UR didn't pick up after banning.

[zemanjaski]

Yeah.

[Kazekirimaru]

EDIT: Anyone missing MonoBlue Cloud Post? Shame UR didn't pick up after banning.

[DarthStabber]

Discarding nicol bolas, planeswalker to karn's +4 paints a REALLY BIG target on Karn's head. Proceeding to then ultimate karn the next turn tends to cause concessions. Is there a 1 mana way to get Nic off the board?

[zemanjaski]

Been here: 4 hours

Been asked about proposing: 2 times

[Platypus]

^Is that a 3???

Honestly, it could be any number...

[photodyer]

Z, platy and mdu--am I reading the zones right that y'all are about 2.5 hours from Christmas?

[windstrider]

Been here: 4 hours

Been asked about proposing: 2 times

Apparently, you've made quite the impression.

Curious, how did you respond?

[windstrider]

And, fuuuuck, it is cold outside. Temp reads 3 degrees.

[Platypus]

Z, platy and mdu--am I reading the zones right that y'all are about 2.5 hours from Christmas?

Actually, we celebrate on Christmas Eve around here, so it's been Christmas for 14 hours already. The first meal was just finished, now we wait a few hours and then it's the main course...

So yeah, Merry Christmas to you all!

[zemanjaski]

Yeah same been a big day.

They're well aware it's on the cards in the near future, they just like to make me squirm.

[windstrider]

This is quite awesome. Happy for you.

[Platypus]

So, New Year's Eve is a good time to pop the question, no?

[windstrider]

Doubtful. The timing's not right, and you know how z is about timing.

[Platypus]

Yeah, I'm not much for doing stuff like that myself. We just decided by mutual consent to just get engaged, and that was it really.

[Valdarith]

Variance is not being kind to me tonight. Lost the first games of two straight eight mans.

Also, I'm sick of "Turn one Thoughtseize you." I'm even more sick of the baddies that keep it in against me postboard and still win.

You are aware that many high level players keep some Thoughtseize post board against red right? Hitting high value cards like your 4/4 haste creature, Skullcrack or other anti-lifegain card is a huge swing in their favor.

That player which won the GP with BR actually boarded in TS against red that how strong thoughtseize is, its just
all about the timing.

I'm aware, yes. That doesn't mean they're right. I see a lot of black players keeping Thoughtseize in against even burn decks. Against a deck where the opponent's cards all do the same thing (3-4 damage) that's the last card you want to play.