[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:48 pm

Olivia just dies to removal

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:48 pm

As opposed to reaper of the wilds who scrys to removal.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:49 pm

Olivia just dies to removal

ba dum tiss

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:59 pm

As opposed to reaper of the wilds who scrys to removal.

Bravo

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:04 am

esper will beat uw but uw will beat everything else better

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:05 am

so just hone your control mirror match and uw is the superior deck

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:09 am

I'll be honest, I still can't figure out why Esper is a playable deck. The pile is just so...loose.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:13 am

I've beaten SS with mono red before. The matchup is not unwinnable. And no I didn't play Leyline of Punishment.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:14 am

I've never thought Esper was a good deck but it is playable. Just gets beaten pretty bad by aggressive strategies where UW stands a better chance. All those scrylands are icky.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:18 am

I've beaten SS numerous times, but it's not easy. The odds are just greatly in the other deck's favor. Plus most SS pilots I've faced were just....terrible.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:19 am

Yeah it doesn't help that 80% of SS pilots have a mental disability.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:22 am

Totally made up that statistic by the way.

...it's probably closer to 90%.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:36 am

Esper is the only deck other then burn that can make use of 8 scrylands. That's why Esper's playable.

Also, Jace/Sphinx/Thoughtseize.

rezombad · Postby **rezombad** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:37 am

I've beaten SS numerous times, but it's not easy. The odds are just greatly in the other deck's favor. Plus most SS pilots I've faced were just....terrible.

most pilots are terrible

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:44 am

I've beaten SS numerous times, but it's not easy. The odds are just greatly in the other deck's favor. Plus most SS pilots I've faced were just....terrible.
most pilots are terrible

True dat. Most games I win are because people can't read a damn card or do simple arithmetic during combat.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:45 am

What do you mean I can't cast Pillar of Flame in response??????

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:53 am

Exactly.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:01 am

Just bought some Sphinx's Revelations. I'm headed to the dark side gentlemen.
good man. i have a uw list for you if you want it.

I'd like to see your list. I'm on the fence whether I should play the Aetherling version or the version with just Elspeth and Jace.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:13 am

I've been playing just the Walker version.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:13 am

Just bought some Sphinx's Revelations. I'm headed to the dark side gentlemen.
good man. i have a uw list for you if you want it.
I'd like to see your list. I'm on the fence whether I should play the Aetherling version or the version with just Elspeth and Jace.

What do you like more - fast clocks or post-wrath recovery?

Could always just stick in a single AEtherling, I guess.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:14 am

I'm leaning towards a single Aetherling for safety.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:15 am

ONe thing that is interesting about blue white is boarding based on if you won or lost game 1. Sometimes, your postboard plan becomes JMA because ain't nobody got time to bore people to death.

I'd say the appeal of UW though is the fact that you don't have to play win-cons, so I'm inclined to ditch aetherling.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:19 am

Not playing win cons is nice; I do t think Esper can do that though; your own mana base and the inclusion of many more early game cards would seem to pull in the opposite direction.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:20 am

Not having to play Blood Baron is nice. That cards sucks.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:23 am

Assuming you meant Don't Z, I agree. Esper is SUPPOSED to play win cons IMO.

Lots of my games are won by attacking 5 times with blood baron starting turn 6.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:25 am

Blood Baron is good. MJ is dumb. I guess you are too.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:27 am

Yea, Esper can't play the same inevitable long game as UW so you need to take them out sooner. BB is the best card for that, it just isn't good. Green decks being so awful make it playable; if not for Mono B and Mono B then BB wouldn't be a card; but hey, this is the world we live in.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:30 am

Blood Baron is good in the metagame. It's not good. Shock isn't intrinsically good either, but done weeks it's the best card in your deck. That's competitive magic.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:31 am

I mean I'm a CFB player, I'm correct.

Now give me your deck ideas so I can rename them and claim them as my own.

Dos Rakis? More like Pack Rack Jet? Amirite??

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:33 am

My name is zemanjaski, stroke my ego! e.e

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:35 am

Saying it's not a good card when that's only relevant outside of the format where living in(aka, a fake format that nobody plays in) isn't useful unless you add qualifiers to your otherwise worthless statement.

You should listen to me. I won last weeks FNM.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:35 am

You're just as bad with sarcasm as you are as a parent.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:36 am

Who came up with the name Dos Rakis? Was it redthirst? This has been bugging me for a while on some random shit.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:36 am

DroppingStupid

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:36 am

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:37 am

IIRC it was Ham

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:38 am

Saying it's not a good card when that's only relevant outside of the format where living in(aka, a fake format that nobody plays in) isn't useful unless you add qualifiers to your otherwise worthless statement.

You should listen to me. I won last weeks FNM.

Talk to me dirty LP.

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:53 am

i don't leave home without 1 aetherling

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:54 am

2 elspeth 1 aetherling

3 elspeth is good but i prefer big daddy

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:10 am

IIRC it was Ham

Yeah, came up with it while drinking

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