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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:08 am

But yeah, I like the phoenix. Depending on what it debuts at, I may grab a playset early.

I'd say if it debuts at more then $5 a pop, the I'd likely wait. It is mythic though, so dunno what they'll put it at. I think it has pretty good potential.
My guess is $10 starting for Phoenix, $20 for Mogis. If SCG feels a need to test the waters, they will start at something more like $8 and $16 respectively. Mythic creatures rarely debut any lower than that simply because of their mathematical probability and early demand.

Of course, we wouldn't have to guess if SCG would get on the stick and post them for sale...
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Postby DarthStabber » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:14 am

why are there ponies in the clan thread

what

why

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Why wouldn't there be?
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You do need to try to gay it up a little more.

You're like the least gay member of this clan.

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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:17 am

Regrettably our dragon rare for this set is another bin card...


Forgestoker Dragon 4 :symr: :symr:
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5/4
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:28 am

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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:36 am

Just caught an interesting reminder over on Sally...Mogis potentiates casting Rakdos. It still doesn't likely make Rakdos playable in competitive Magic, but very interesting flavorwise and for the casual tables.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:38 am

why are there ponies in the clan thread

what

why

what
Why wouldn't there be?
I've never seen them here before.

I figured this was a clan of pony haters.

It probably still is, the vocal ones just haven't shown up yet.
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Postby Alex » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:45 am

Phoenix is sweet. I'm (surprisingly) less impressed with Mogis, although I'm sure a control list will pop up that is all removal + Mogis.

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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:53 am

Phoenix is sweet. I'm (surprisingly) less impressed with Mogis, although I'm sure a control list will pop up that is all removal + Mogis.
Mogis + DD I would guess...forcing creature sacrifice on both your and their turns would up the viability against aggro.
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Postby Alex » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:04 am

Yeah, and it shits all over mono U. That's kind of exciting.

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Postby F.I.A » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:11 am

Regrettably our dragon rare for this set is another bin card...


Forgestoker Dragon 4 :symr: :symr:
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5/4
Someone said before that casual dragons breath fire, while competitive ones breath thunder. It isn't too far from the truth, I guess.
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Postby Alex » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:16 am

Fated Retribution looks like a sweet EDH card, I'm excited for that. Hero of Iroas is also pretty sweet. Making auras cost 1 less? Sounds like fun to me.

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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:26 am

Yeah, and it shits all over mono U. That's kind of exciting.
My guess is that the polar opposite for BR Control is going to be Hexproof Auras, given the potentiator that just got spoiled in white (Heracles?).
Unless we happen to get another sweeper, perhaps in black...

EDIT: ^ ...and Alex points to said hero as we speak.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:45 am

BR control could be a thing, sure.
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Postby NerdBoyWonder » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:49 am

Regrettably our dragon rare for this set is another bin card...


Forgestoker Dragon 4 :symr: :symr:
Creature - Dragon

Flying
1 :symr: : Forgestoker Dragon deals 1 damage to target creature. That creature can't block this combat. Activate this ability only if Forgestoker Dragon is attacking.

5/4
Not for competitive but for prerelease sealed/limited he is okay. Breaks up board stalls and lets you alpha to win since sealed/draft comes down to
who wins the creature war.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:02 am

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachme ... 1389692260

Someone wants Fate to win games of Magic.

3/3 for three, tribute 1. +1/+1 haste until eot sans tribute.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:25 am

Quite good.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:34 am

Been liking this in testing :P

[deck]Mono U Devotion[/deck]
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4 Tidebinder Mage

4 Thassa, God of the Sea

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2 Domestication
3 Gainsay
2 Jace, Architect of Thought
2 Jace, Memory Adept
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Postby RedNihilist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:38 am

That deck packs so much skill... *_*

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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:45 am

Thassa is the only non-autopilot card.
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Postby redthirst » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:54 pm

Like the Phoenix.
Mogis gets a big yawn from me.
My Little Pony isn't bad - I watch it with my daughter sometimes.

That's all for now.
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Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
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Postby Yarpus » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:20 pm

Phoenix is pretty damn strong. I like it. It might suffer from opponent making the decision as you allow them to choose between having to face slow dragon or fast phoenix... but I guess (I hope!) powerlevel of a card will be good enough.
Mogis is okay. I mean, the effect is supercool - but he has little to no impact to be honest. Just compare him to Purphoros. Yep.
Fanatic of Xenagos is hero of the day though. RG Aggro really suffered from lack of good 3CMC drop. And this guy... this guy is a MOFO.

As overall: classic Mono Red seems to be back as we finally get stronk 4CMC Drop. RG Aggro's line-up seems to be finally complete.

4 Rakdos Cackler
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4 Ash Zealot
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Postby windstrider » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:58 pm

The Phoenix looks strong. Zealot into Phoenix into Phoenix will be making people cry for a while.

Mogis looks interesting. It makes me wonder what hexproof garbage is coming our way, though.
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Postby Yarpus » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:19 pm

Nobody cares about better, gruul Loxodon Smiter. :<
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Postby windstrider » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:53 pm

Pregnancy update

We're now officially past the due date, which was Sunday. The ultrasound on Friday showed that both baby and mama are doing just fine. The doctor is supposed to call us tomorrow to schedule for the next available induction opening, which probably means that she'll start having contractions again tonight since that is what happened with Dude.
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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:53 pm

WTF. SCG posted the limited bomb rares that nobody wants for Constructed pre-orders, but not the official spoils from last night. Grrr.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:02 pm

Hey redthirst, you remember how I was writing stuffs and you kind of liked it? Well, I don't have any more of that story, but that's because I started working on a new project.
A World Without Magic
The tavern doors broke open as two shadowed travelers stepped into the light of the hearth. The patrons fell into uncomfortable silence at the sight of their red and purple clergy cowls; the tavern keeper was already on his way over to them. This far from the cities and at this time of night, they could only be out on a hunt. The taller of the pair pulled back his hood and shook off the rain.

"Lock that wretch in a room, get the horses to stable, then you can eat."

The woman to whom he spoke nodded, then stepped forward, yanking on a chain. A half drowned man lurched into sight and crashed to the floor, unable to save himself as his hands were chained together and again to his belt. Rolling to
his back, he groaned in pain and growled at his captors through the rag tied tight around his mouth. In this moment, sound returned to the tavern in the form of mumbled contempt. Though his face lacked the brand, they knew only a sorcerer would be bound and gagged this way.

"On your feet, wretch." The clergyman turned away from the tavern keeper long enough to kick his captive in the ribs. His partner pulled upward on the chain, barely aiding the criminal to his feet.

People were returning to their meal and drink while the woman led through the tavern toward the stairs, but the sorcerer had not lost all his attention. Most of the patrons muttered curses at him as he passed; a few even spat at him. They had no fear of a sorcerer who could neither speak nor move to perform his heretical arts. Just before the staircase was reached, one of the drunkards fell off his stool and tumbled into the pair. This time it was the woman who hit the ground; the sorcerer was merely pinned between the drunk and
a wall. Her hood fell back as she did, loose red curls exploding outward. Her face was smooth and young, but bore two brands, once as a sorceress, and once again as a Repentant Hunter.

"A thousand, thousand apologies, miss," behind a soft smile and rosy cheeks, his hazel eyes gushed sincerity. His voice was moderately slurred; in spite of that, it aimed to impress, "I'm so sorry and so pleased to have bumped into you. Call me Kaz, and you?"

She noticed his extended hand first, then his light, loose and black clothing. She even observed his minor bits of silver jewelry, a chain about his neck, one ring, a bracelet, and belt buckle. Finally, she became aware that his eyes were far too attentive to her features, no longer obscured by hood and cloak. What she did not notice, perhaps as she became flustered, was the metal tine he had slipped into the hand of her prisoner.
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Postby redthirst » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:08 pm

I'm listening...
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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I love the D...

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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:14 pm

I obviously know absolutely nothing...Phoenix is up on SCG for $1! Grab them while you can if you're so inclined... for $1 they seem worth grabbing.
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Postby DocLawless » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:23 pm

Already out of stock.

Temples preordering for $5. I'll wait.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:34 pm

Wai for what? They're not going to get cheaper than that, especially the UW one.
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby redthirst » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:41 pm

New preorder price on the Phoenix: $5.00
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:43 pm

New preorder price on the Phoenix: $5.00
:rolleyes:
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:50 pm

It's a trap!
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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:54 pm

Fanatic of Xenagos is very good. Looks like Gruul might finally have enough tools to be a force in the meta, but it looks like heavy green is better than heavy red (as it is right now).

Going heavy green gives you Experiment One and Dryad Militant at the one slot, then BTE at the two. You can chain a red or green two drop off of him, like Gore-House Chainwalker for a three-power two drop or even Satyr Hedonist for a potential turn three five drop like Stormbreath Dragon. Then you have Fanatic of Xenagos, which is a 4/4 if the tribute cost is paid which evolves a 3/3 Experiment One. Throw in Domri Rade, a couple Xenagos, and maybe a mix of Mizzium Mortars and Clan Defiance and you've got yourself one hell of a deck.
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Postby redthirst » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:56 pm

New preorder price on the Phoenix: $5.00
:rolleyes:
It's another Vexing Devil.
Hardly.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby rcwraspy » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:00 pm

New preorder price on the Phoenix: $5.00
:rolleyes:
It's another Vexing Devil.
Hardly.
worth it at $5?
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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:03 pm

I think SCG initially put the Phoenix up without realizing it was Mythic, it it really was selling at .99
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby RaidaTheBlade » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:10 pm

Damnit, I was refreshing that site all morning, but it never showed up on sale for me! ;-;

I am very unhappy at not getting them for $1, that would have been awesome e.e
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Postby DroppinSuga » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:13 pm

UW temple is totally worth $5 bucks. Preordering a playset now.
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Postby MattT » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:14 pm

Phoenix, no thx. Mogis is sb material vs. Midrange & Control.


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