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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:00 pm
by Kaitscralt
Stay with us Zem, we need you to earn our new clan packs, these are your great card analysts, you created them and now you must stay and destroy them

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:00 pm
by DocLawless
a shred-freak would count as 4 devotion towards activating Mogis. Seems fine to me.
Yeah... it doesn't work like that. WotC specifically said as much in their article when they spoiled Ephara.

This should be it.
There's the link. It specifically addresses the point
of Hybrid mana towards Devotion. Y'all can stop guessing now.
Your explanation made the most sense, sight unseen of an official ruling. :sherlock: But thanks for the citation anyway.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:02 pm
by redthirst
The comparisons to Vexing Devil are really bad though, whoever posted the card disadvantage ratios to differentiate the two deserves a trophy. They could have threatened to leave for a few days instead, wouldn't that have been something?
Where's my goddamned trophy?

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:03 pm
by Kazekirimaru
The comparisons to Vexing Devil are really bad though, whoever posted the card disadvantage ratios to differentiate the two deserves a trophy. They could have threatened to leave for a few days instead, wouldn't that have been something?
Where's my goddamned trophy?
WHERE'S MY DRAGON TROPHY MADDING

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:03 pm
by NerdBoyWonder
Kaits and Zem just need to hurry up and have sex already.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:04 pm
by Alex
Hey Doc, now that I see you're here...

Starting to lose my FoS letters on the shirt now, too. Its only the second washing but when I pulled it out of the dryer this morning the F started to peel. Give me a place where I can send you a few bucks via PM for a replacement + an additional shirt for a local D2R member? (Jabberwocky.) We're probably gonna ride to Atlanta together and he wants to feel included. :P

I believe he said he wants an XL.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:08 pm
by DocLawless
PM'ed.

Out of curiosity, what wash and dry cycles are you washing it in?

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:10 pm
by zemanjaski
Actually madding, if not for U-Devotion being "anti-red cards.dek" then Desecration Demon wouldn't be playable at all. The card, in abstract is terrible and if there were any other reasonable black 4 drop they'd rather play that. Competitive Magic isn't about making the biggest creature, it just needs to be bigger than what other people are playing; which is mostly 2/3s, 2/1s etc. DD is just the best card available. A card seeing play in a good deck doesn't make the card good.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:12 pm
by zemanjaski
I'm still here, despite my better judgement, because I'm compelled to help, even when it's spat back in my face.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:14 pm
by redthirst
I'm still here, despite my better judgement, because I'm compelled to help, even when it's spat back in my face.
It's like a 5 and a 6.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:15 pm
by Kaitscralt
Kaits and Zem just need to hurry up and have sex already.
We have, the problem isn't that we not fuckin, cause we fuckin, the problem is that his girly saw my fotes, now she want to be fuckin, and he is struggling with that.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:17 pm
by Kaitscralt
Actually madding, if not for U-Devotion being "anti-red cards.dek" then Desecration Demon wouldn't be playable at all. The card, in abstract is terrible and if there were any other reasonable black 4 drop they'd rather play that. Competitive Magic isn't about making the biggest creature, it just needs to be bigger than what other people are playing; which is mostly 2/3s, 2/1s etc. DD is just the best card available. A card seeing play in a good deck doesn't make the card good.
Desecration Demon was beginning to appear in a ton of lists before rotation, Rock, Aristocrats, etc. The card has its place, and that place is currently in the formats best deck, and your reason is that... it's because of other cards in the meta. THE HORROR!

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:18 pm
by Self Medicated
Its not that hard.
It's always that hard.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:19 pm
by redthirst
Usually harder.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:20 pm
by DocLawless
Rock hard.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:20 pm
by Self Medicated
Usually harder.
Implying a level of hardness greater than "diamond in an ice storm".

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:23 pm
by Kaitscralt
Zem let's go through every card in Standard and judge them in a vacuum, this seems productive. Hey, maybe your next article can be about that.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:24 pm
by redthirst
Usually harder.
Implying a level of hardness greater than "diamond in an ice storm".
I usually run about 15 Mohs.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:24 pm
by redthirst
Ho-Mohs.




....wait.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:30 pm
by zemanjaski
Zem let's go through every card in Standard and judge them in a vacuum, this seems productive. Hey, maybe your next article can be about that.
I'm only employed to write red deck articles :teach:

And don't talk about Pip in that context again.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:32 pm
by Kaitscralt
The comparisons to Vexing Devil are really bad though, whoever posted the card disadvantage ratios to differentiate the two deserves a trophy. They could have threatened to leave for a few days instead, wouldn't that have been something?
Where's my goddamned trophy?
Redacted for taking the lords name in vain.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:32 pm
by Self Medicated
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Implying a level of hardness greater than "diamond in an ice storm".[/quote:1tvyzv4i]

I usually run about 15 Mohs.[/quote:1tvyzv4i]

I usually refer to the Rockwell scale because the Rockwell test determines hardness by measuring the depth of penetration. I'm paraphrasing, of course.

That being said, I'm at a constant hardness of HRG 150.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:35 pm
by Kaitscralt
Zem let's go through every card in Standard and judge them in a vacuum, this seems productive. Hey, maybe your next article can be about that.
And don't talk about Pip in that context again.
Why? I'm contractually obligated. In GRR you seemed to invite such context, indeed you seemed disappointed that the vulgarity did not meet your expectations.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:38 pm
by Kaitscralt
You were warned about the picture posting and what would happen, what you chose to do with that disclaimer is your own business

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:41 pm
by Kaitscralt
Just ask the slutty librarian

:magicmage:

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:43 pm
by zemanjaski
This isn't GRRRRRR.

You're more than aware how my behaviour there has changed also.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:44 pm
by zemanjaski
:tomato:

Shots fired

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:44 pm
by zemanjaski
This is how angry people trying to legitimise vexing devil makes me

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:46 pm
by Kaitscralt
Don't take it out on me, we need each other, like Vash and Knives

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:47 pm
by zemanjaski
Is this the new GRRR? The defenders of GRRR have all fled their posts.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:47 pm
by zemanjaski
Don't take it out on me, we need each other, like Vash and Knives
Or Spike and Vicious.

Fuck, you're right.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:48 pm
by zemanjaski
Except we're both Vicious.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:48 pm
by zemanjaski
Kaze can be Faye-Faye.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:50 pm
by Kaitscralt
Kaze can be Pip

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:56 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Kaze can be Faye-Faye.
Yellow is an awful color on me.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:58 pm
by zemanjaski
Truth be told, Kaitscralt is my favourite poster here.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:59 pm
by Kaitscralt
Remember Zem, two Belza's are better than one.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:59 pm
by zemanjaski
Kaze can be Pip
He's be found wanting in literally everyway.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:00 pm
by windstrider
If Mogis needs 7 devotion in red and/or black, then he needs 5 more devotion besides himself to activate. That shouldn't be that tough to achieve with the permanents we have available.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:00 pm
by zemanjaski
Lets do that thing where we put aside our differences and turn on Kaze.