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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:06 am
by Purp
Oracle of the Bonessss
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:08 am
by Jack
... is almost certainly bad.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:08 am
by Jack
Although my midnight card evaluations have definitely been wrong before.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:10 am
by Jack
Maybe he isn't terrible, but he'll be hard-pressed to find a home where the deck wouldn't be better without him.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:12 am
by Jack
The new tokens look pretty cool.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:17 am
by Kaitscralt
god i stayed up for this shit
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:17 am
by Kazekirimaru
The new tokens look pretty cool.
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:23 am
by photodyer
Green CA...rather expensive and risky, but huge in Limited I would expect:
Regardless of card quality, I LOVE the art on both of these:
In fact, I just emailed Dan Scott to congratulate him on the Astronomer and to ask when I could get a print...it's going in the same room with
Ponder and
Evacuation.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:28 am
by Calamity
I dunno if oracle of bones is good but i like the card
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:28 am
by Kaitscralt
tribute is so shitty
oracle is deceiving in its lameness. red has so few powerful non-creature spells right now. free mortars or lightning strike? okay.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:29 am
by NerdBoyWonder
Oracle still keeps haste with tribute being paid for and if not let's you get a free burn in. Better in burn heavy list. Walter White and Boros Burn come to mind.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:30 am
by windstrider
Blech. Those are some pretty mediocre spoilers. I kinda like the red one drop bestow guy but not all that much. Meh.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:36 am
by Jack
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:37 am
by Jack
The eagle looks sick. The gold is interesting.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:40 am
by LP, of the Fires
Free mortars like burning-tree didn't already do that. I get that it's a mintoar so theoretically it's a 4/2 haste for 3 in certain worlds...but that's just a minotaur skullcleaver.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:47 am
by Lightning_Dolt
This set is so bad, it makes dragons maze look acceptable.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:48 am
by Kaitscralt
This set is so bad, it makes dragons maze look acceptable.
this is true for no set
no set!
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:49 am
by Kaitscralt
i forgot to mention my first tournament loves
ghost dad / hand in hand
and doran rock
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:51 am
by Pendulum
ghost dad
It appears we have something in common.
Fuck.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:58 am
by LP, of the Fires
First tourney love was actually rakdos agro.
Satanic Sligh featuring Dark Confidant and Genju of the Spires.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:04 am
by Kaitscralt
ghost council with damage on the stack... lol, fair stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:07 am
by zemanjaski
I only started playing seriously in Zen

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:07 am
by Kazekirimaru
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Those look rather nice.
The new tokens might actually be the best part of the set.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:08 am
by Pyreheart Bezerra
Gold tokens?!!? Weird.
Oracle could be a 5/3 haste for 4 or a 3/1 haste and a free spell (assuming you have a spell). creates a little subgame with the opponent.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:11 am
by photodyer
Tokens are making me wonder at what's to come...artifacts turning into colored mana?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:27 am
by windstrider
I want a red enchantment that deals damage whenever a player scrys.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:34 am
by Kazekirimaru
Do you really want to hurt me?
Do you really want to make me scry?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:39 am
by photodyer
Alex just tagged this online (FB)...I can't get to the twitter feed, but the point makes itself:
Return to Kamigawa confirmed.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:42 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Alex just tagged this online (FB)...I can't get to the twitter feed, but the point makes itself:
Return to Kamigawa confirmed.
It was a joke.
Maro said they will NOT do another kamigawa set on his podcast.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:46 am
by Lightning_Dolt
First tournament love was the original boros deck wins with jittes

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:46 am
by photodyer
Thanks for the clarification, JS...it's a pain not being able to access stuff from here.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:48 am
by Lightning_Dolt
I feel you bro. I hate my work filter. It prevents me from actually doing work too.
Smart phone works for DTR, fb etc though.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:17 am
by LP, of the Fires
Finally feeling standard burnout. Mostly cause I want to play UB control, but don't feel like switching decks seeing as RW devotion is the bread earner. Guess I'll practice modern instead since there's talk of multiple people I know flying to effing Richmond for the GP.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:47 am
by DarthStabber
This batch of spoilers seems a bit nuts and bolts. Oracle seems intriguing, if not grand.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:02 am
by Yarpus
Greek mithology trope. King Midas was greedy as fuck, which is why he was cursed by gods with "everything you'll touch willl turn gold".
Yes, everything.
Most probably a creature with first strike and "when x deals combat damage to another creature, exile it and put a gold token under opponent's control".
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:02 am
by TBuzzsaw
I'm still holding out on a good 1 or 2 drop red creature this set.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:03 am
by zemanjaski
We can sideline the artifact UB control for now. Just a bit too clunky against world class players (Isaac has a PT Top 8 and a GP win). After discussion, the deck is lacking early filtering to help assemble the pieces quickly enough; this is a fairly obvious oversight as previous versions of UB Control had Preordain / Spreading Seas or Ponder / Think Twice. There's no way to get that consistency early right now.
UW has Azorius Charm so I'm leaning that way right now; the deck doesn't seem to have got much from BNG (aside from an improved mana base, which is of course a big game) but I've played with it a bunch and like it.
Probably still leaning mono U at this point; though ill be doing the obligatory "brew every reasonable aggro deck I can think of" frenzy that I always enjoy.
Black aggro seems a little better than red aggro. Dos Rakis is interesting, but these aren't the days of Lavaclaw Reaches;
manlands are amazing but they're very demanding on an aggro deck's manabase.
If there's not a lot of aggro at any point in the season, black aggro with maindeck UC is a proven winner; I had huge success with that last year.
World of possibilities.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:05 am
by zemanjaski
I'm still holding out on a good 1 or 2 drop red creature this set.
Firedrinker Satyr
Foundry Street Denizen
Legion Loyalist
Rakdos Cackler
The problem isn't our 1 drops, they're amazing. The problem is mono U maindecks 16 hate cards (Frostburn Weird, Master of Waves, Nightveil Spectre, Tidebinder Mage).
That's why black aggro is interesting; you sidestep most of thise issues.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:08 am
by magicdownunder
Oracle of Bones just needed to be pushed a little more . . .
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:28 am
by Yarpus
Always wondered about this - is greek mythology something taught in school in 'murica or in zem/mdu case Australia? Welp, I had to read the whole thing in Primary school.