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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:42 pm

For anyone ruined by George Lucas's HD additions, you can find three fan edits called the "Despecialized Edition" online. I recommend them especially if you have a blu-ray burner.

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:46 pm

I have a question about Firedancer Satyrs' triggers. Do I HAVE to have it deal damage to a creature an opponent controls? ie: What if the opponent has a reckoner out? Do I have to have my Firedancer trigger deal 3 dmg to him (assuming I casted LS)?

What if there is a Caratid out? Since it has hexproof, would that just mean there is no valid targets to deal dmg to?

Also, if I cast Lighting Strike on a Planeswalker, with Firedancer be able to trigger?
Satyr's ability will trigger after a spell deals damage to a player if there is a valid target in play. If there's only a Boros Reckoner out, you have to target it.

You can't Lightning Strike a planeswalker, but you can redirect damage from a player to a PW they control. If you choose to, Satyr
Firedancer won't trigger since you didn't damage the player.

Fated Conflagration also won't trigger it, since it targets the PW itself.

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Postby Purp » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:54 pm

I have a question about Firedancer Satyrs' triggers. Do I HAVE to have it deal damage to a creature an opponent controls? ie: What if the opponent has a reckoner out? Do I have to have my Firedancer trigger deal 3 dmg to him (assuming I casted LS)?

What if there is a Caratid out? Since it has hexproof, would that just mean there is no valid targets to deal dmg to?

Also, if I cast Lighting Strike on a Planeswalker, with Firedancer be able to trigger?
Satyr's ability will trigger after a spell deals damage to a player if there is a valid target in play. If there's only a Boros Reckoner
out, you have to target it.

You can't Lightning Strike a planeswalker, but you can redirect damage from a player to a PW they control. If you choose to, Satyr Firedancer won't trigger since you didn't damage the player.

Fated Conflagration also won't trigger it, since it targets the PW itself.
Firedancer says opponent. So I am wondering if a PW is considered an opponent, because it IS considered a player.
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Postby redthirst » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:55 pm

A PW is considered a player?
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Postby Purp » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:57 pm

Doh, I am wrong! Thanks for clarification
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Postby Helios » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:04 pm

Wait. So SoFI triggers when you hit a planeswalker?

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:05 pm

No, a Planeswalker isn't considered a player or an opponent.

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Postby windstrider » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:05 pm

Since we're on rules questions, how would bestow creatures work with Legion's Initiative?

Is it correct that since the creature itself is exiled, then the bestowed aura falls off to become a creature?
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Postby Elricity » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:08 pm

Yes, and the bestow card could attack as long as it doesn't have summoning sickness.

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Postby Helios » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:09 pm

No, a Planeswalker isn't considered a player or an opponent.
Thank you. That's what I thought.

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Postby redthirst » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:10 pm

Purp making shit up again.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:10 pm

That's correct WS.

When Legion's Initiative is activated, the creature that the Bestowed creature enchants leaves the battlefield, so the Bestowed creature changes from an aura to a creature and remains on the battlefield.

EDIT: added clarification of what happens after a LI activation

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Postby DocLawless » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:11 pm

When I was a wee young player, I got told by a judge that my opponent's Witchbane Orb gave his Planeswalkers hexproof too.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:12 pm

:ape:

buncha slack-jawed judges up in here

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Postby Self Medicated » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:20 pm

I stopped reading at "cockgina".
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Postby windstrider » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:22 pm

Good. That's what I thought.
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Postby Sasky » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:26 pm

When I was a wee young player, I got told by a judge that my opponent's Witchbane Orb gave his Planeswalkers hexproof too.
But it does....? Sort of at least.

Because you cannot target a planeswalker with a burn spell, you have to target the player and redirect the damage.

Hero's downfall would work though.
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Postby DocLawless » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:33 pm

It was a Dreadbore.
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Postby DocLawless » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:35 pm

What I should have said was "show me the rule." What I actually said was "you're a stupid fuckstick."

Didn't even get an infraction for that, because the judge is a stupid fuckstick.
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Postby redthirst » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:46 pm

Fuck·stick
/fəkstik/
noun

1. a thin piece of wood that has fallen or been cut from a tree used in sexual intercourse or to ruin or damage.

2. a thin piece of wood that has been trimmed for a particular purpose, in particular used in sexual intercourse or to ruin or damage.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
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Postby Self Medicated » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:07 pm

Fuck·stick
/fəkstik/
noun

1. a thin piece of wood that has fallen or been cut from a tree used in sexual intercourse or to ruin or damage.

2. a thin piece of wood that has been trimmed for a particular purpose, in particular used in sexual intercourse or to ruin or damage.
Can I have it in a sentence please?
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:08 pm

I just picked up 3 pack foil Goblin Guides and 3 pack foil Legion Loyalists for my Modern Goblins deck.

Why? Cuz, fuck it, that's why.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:08 pm

Fuck·stick
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1. a thin piece of wood that has fallen or been cut from a tree used in sexual intercourse or to ruin or damage.

2. a thin piece of wood that has been trimmed for a particular purpose, in particular used in sexual intercourse or to ruin or damage.
Can I have it in a sentence please?
Gear!? You mean my fuckstick?
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Postby redthirst » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:09 pm

I'm going to fuck you with this here fuckstick.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:11 pm

I've always referred to my dick as my fuckstick.
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Postby Self Medicated » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:15 pm

He's not going to say fuck stick in front of the children, is he?
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Postby redthirst » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:18 pm

New bot's name is toursepussy.

That's just good clean family fun right there.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:21 pm

He's not going to say fuck stick in front of the children, is he?
Every year it's the same thing. Booze, bullshit, and butt-fucking!
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:30 pm

He's not going to say fuck stick in front of the children, is he?
Every year it's the same thing. Booze, bullshit, and butt-fucking!
You ain't gonna shit right for a WEEK.

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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:54 pm

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=189201#p189201:11t9z852]hamfactorial » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:30 pm[/url:11t9z852]":11t9z852][quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=189195#p189195:11t9z852]Khaospawn » Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:21 am[/url:11t9z852]":11t9z852][quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=189192#p189192:11t9z852]Self Medicated » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:15 pm[/url:11t9z852]":11t9z852]He's not going to say fuck stick in front of the children, is he?[/quote:11t9z852]
Every year it's the same thing. Booze, bullshit, and butt-fucking![/quote:11t9z852]
You ain't gonna shit right for a WEEK.[/quote:11t9z852]
Goddammit, kid! Are you fucking with me!?


There's actually some dumb kid at my LGS I've nicknamed "Thurman Murman."

You want some sandwiches!?
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Postby Self Medicated » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:56 pm

What the fuck is with you and making fucking sandwiches?
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Postby DerWille » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:19 pm

They're yummy.

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:25 pm

My 20-month-old nephew fell down the stairs today. Apparently someone forgot to put the gate up and he climbed almost all the way up the stairs and proceeded to do the opposite of climbing at the apex.

This was at about 7:30 and it woke me. I bursted up and almost had a heartattack as I knew without a doubt what the sound was. And it was loud.

He didn't even get a bruise.

I think he's superhuman.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:26 pm

But seriously, I'm thanking every deity I can think of that he's not dead. I thought broken neck for sure. It was about 15 wooden stairs.
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Postby redthirst » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:28 pm

Toddlers are made of Flubber.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
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I love the D...

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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:31 pm

Kaze, now make an offering to Purphoros. It's only fair. He saved your nephew, so the least you can do it set something meaningful on fire.
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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:41 pm

Happy to hear of the outcome, Kaze. Toddlers are incredibly resilient, sometimes to the point where if they don't "know" they should be in pain, they won't be. But that doesn't mean it's not scary!
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Postby Valdarith » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:44 pm

Thank goodness he's okay.
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Postby RedNihilist » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:49 pm

Kaze, now make an offering to Purphoros. It's only fair. He saved your nephew, so the least you can do it set something meaningful on fire.
Like what, his nephew? :D

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