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Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:34 am**

Darthsaber: I don't think that's illegal because it's intrinsically unmarked. I have opponents shuffle my deck like that all the time, and the worst it is is annoying. I'm pretty sure a judge would stop the game, fix the cards and continue.

Well then I have my strategy to ensure that this is never a problem for me.

On a different not: Is it bad if I opened a commander box just to take out [card]Nevinyrral's disk[/card] and toxic deluge?

I really don't give a shit about most of the deck, I just wanted the aforementioned mass removal and [card]kongming, "sleeping dragon".[/card].

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:39 am**

Issue was that only SB cards were upside-down and then after putting deck under a microscope they said sleeves were less that fully opaque. Head judge said he believed all accidental but still giving potential for competitive advantage. Draconian rule is draconian.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:43 am**

That was such an awesome game too. I really want to know how it would shake out. His opponent on 7, with a 7 counter jace and an azorius charm in hand along with other unknown cards. James taps 3 for viashino with phoenix on board, leaving up mountain and vault. Not sure of james whole hand, but he had boros charm in hand and i think he left 1 on top with scry. he had 1-3 other cards I think.

We chatted about it after; I was killing him that turn. Meh.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:48 am**

fucking cunt shit

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:49 am**

i wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:49 am**

and that's you zem

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:50 am**

We chatted about it after; I was killing him that turn. Meh.

Damn, so rugged. Just keep burninating. Your breakers are awesome and you're in great position.

This is the top half of the field (from dailymtg after R10):

Esper Control 11
RG Monsters 9
Orzhov Control 7
Mono-Black Devotion 6
Blue-White Devotion 6
Azorius Control 5
Boros Burn 4
WG Aggro 3
BR Aggro 3
Mono-Blue Devotion 3
Others 7

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:55 am**

Maverick texted me right away and though it took me an hour to find my words, I have managed to ruin this party for everybody

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:57 am**

Apparently he just went 0-2 in round 11 too... I have a feeling he might be tilting a bit...

That game loss was absolute bull. This is why they need to revise the rules, cause they are seriously draconian.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:05 am**

He raged at the judges, he raged at Zem's opponent, he raged at Zem, but mostly he just raged.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:12 am**

Keep it together Zem!

(you cant see this)

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:14 am**

He raged at the judges, he raged at Zem's opponent, he raged at Zem, but mostly he just raged.

at Zem

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:15 am**

at madding

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:37 am**

Zem can still win this thing!

Purp is doing well, he's 6-2 in Atlanta.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:07 am**

Good weekend for our boys.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:21 am**

He raged at the judges, he raged at Zem's opponent, he raged at Zem, but mostly he just raged.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:27 am**

I hope Zem doesn't lose another GAME and just soulcrushes everyone.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:33 am**

Well he is out of top 8 contention if he does

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:39 am**

Says he's at 11th
Can anyone tell me what has to happen round 14?

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:16 am**

Lost rounds 10, 11, 12. Pretty brutal.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:16 am**

Some fucking pricks on Twitter are saying Z cheated by using marked cards. It's always the people with the least information that make false statements with absolute conviction.

There is a rumor it might get upgraded to a DQ if he makes top 8.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:01 am**

The statements about it getting upgraded if he makes top 8 are in reference to what happened at a different GP. At that GP they caught someone cheating, but weren't sure he was cheating at first. They DQ'd him 2 rounds later once they confirmed that he was cheating. That's completely different than what happened to Z. Z barely got a game loss. People on twitter are idiots.

By my math, there's a theoretical chance that Z makes top 8 if he wins the last 3 rounds. It's not a good chance, as draws and breakers have to go perfectly, but it is possible.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:07 am**

Wait, what the fuck? Can someone explain the game loss situation to me in detail? Was it on camera?

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:36 am**

Where is your deer god now

Here I am

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:59 am**

It was during Zem's featured match, on camera. The cards he sideboarded in for the second game were shuffled upside down into his deck. His opponent, just looking for any way to win, noticed this and called the judge over.

The clearly bored judge decided to inspect things further and noticed that Zem's sleeves weren't fully opaque, which combined with some of them being upside down, technically made them "marked." Zem got a game loss, and was already down a game, so it was essentially a match loss.

I can't wait until "skilled" "professionals" start cutting cards upside down and then calling judges to enforce the "rules."

Ouch...

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:59 am**

What I don't understand is why Z's opponent waited until he was at 7 life to say anything? Did he not notice until then? I find that rather hard to believe.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:09 am**

Finished 11-4; 23rd.

I was never at risk of being dq'd lol.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:16 am**

Was that your first GP?

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:18 am**

Still great results, Z. I was watching your infamous feature match during my daily. The twitch chat was going nuts.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:24 am**

Good job, James.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:26 am**

It was during Zem's featured match, on camera. The cards he sideboarded in for the second game were shuffled upside down into his deck. His opponent, just looking for any way to win, noticed this and called the judge over.

The clearly bored judge decided to inspect things further and noticed that Zem's sleeves weren't fully opaque, which combined with some of them being upside down, technically made them "marked." Zem got a game loss, and was already down a game, so it was essentially a match loss.

I can't wait until "skilled" "professionals" start cutting cards upside down and then calling judges to enforce the "rules."

Bad form

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:47 am**

Good job Zem!

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:48 am**

Finished 11-4; 23rd.

I was never at risk of being dq'd lol.

Congratulations, that is something to be very proud of.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:53 am**

Gratz Z!

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:57 am**

I was never at risk of being dq'd lol.

Yeah, just some random prick on Twitter spouting nonsense.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:59 am**

Great job fearless leader.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:00 am**

That sucks man, make sure to buy solid sleeves next time!

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:00 am**

I still want your babies Zem.

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:00 am**

Great wins nonetheless

Posted: **Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:32 am**

You'll do better next time, Space Cowboy.

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