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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:58 am
by Captain Murphy
I think the stupidity stems from him being scum, not as a townie. But I am really enjoying this great English lesson you are putting together this game Proffesor Kaze

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:02 am
by Kazekirimaru
Glad to hear you're enjoying it, of course. :P

So, what makes you think his actions are scum-motivated rather than just lolderp town?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:12 am
by Captain Murphy
Because of the whole flavor thing. I think he thinks town got a role that can be deciphered through flavor, and that would be unknowing as scum. Like, I have no clue what kind of doc I am through the flavor, but wraith wouldn't know that as scum.

On top of that the mudslinging of a good player with a straw grasp reasoning of "you are doc hunting in a game with docs and scum" bullshit.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:29 am
by WitchHunt
It's in the opening post, all we know for now is that we're Doctors. Did Wraith even read it?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:59 am
by Kazekirimaru
I think he thinks town got a role that can be deciphered through flavor, and that would be unknowing as scum.
This was exactly my first thought when he said the line I bolded on the previous page. I was about to jump on it, but Wraith has a penchant for teh flavourgames. I really don't think this is coming from a malicious mindset. Take this quote, for example:
you guys are so dense and closed minded. I did not get my choice doctor's name in my role, and am not flavor gaming.
This sounds like 100% genuine townie paranoia and frustration to me. He's going off of
the only information he knows - "I didn't get my doctor choice, therefore it's possible others didn't, either. There must be a reason some of us didn't get what we chose!" If I were in his situation, I'd have came to a similar conclusion and probably looked at anyone calling for flavourclaim in a suspicious light.

While we're at it, Wraith has absoultely zero reason as scum to mention that he didn't get his character choice. If Wraith is scum, it's his first time. Scum generally don't wish to draw attention to themselves(this early on, especially) since they're usually still acclimating and trying to get a gameplan in mind. This claim Wraith made draws attention, and there was already plenty on him at the time. Noobscum would not make waves, they would try to diffuse the situation as soon as possible and go hide back in their corner.

Pretty sure Wraith isn't scum.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:30 am
by imopen2
Wraith: what alignment was I when I was "voting anyone"

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:30 am
by imopen2
Stardust, what's up?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:39 pm
by Wraith223
Wraith: what alignment was I when I was "voting anyone"
I just don't like you. I saw you voted me immediately and found that scummy. Captain Murphy also jumped in fast. I would posit both of you are scum as both are looking to lynch easy targets for day 1. I was looking for this when I used WitchHunt as bait (sorry about that WH, but I wanted to see who would cast the first stones).

Where is stardust? What a setting of pure irony if Stardust is scum this game.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:56 pm
by imopen2
So voting wraith is a scum tell... Good to know

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:10 pm
by DroppinSuga
imopen is so scum.

unvote

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:23 pm
by Wraith223
imopen is so scum.

unvote

:confused2: Huh?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:35 pm
by Wraith223
So voting wraith is a scum tell... Good to know
:D Yes. I am town, again. You also play scummy as shit EVERY game, and CM does as well. I never know what is going through G_R's brain. Suga, as usual, leaves me perplexed.

Kaz and CM on my use of doc names, I don't give a shit. I use whatever information I have and inferences that pop up. Can't turn it off (even in real life). When new information shows up; I can sideline facts temporarily. I also don't see anyone using their Doc names instead of their screen names for "flavor".

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:20 pm
by ( G_R )
Unvote

Vote DroppinSuga

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:56 am
by DroppinSuga
Great vote GR! I'm as scum as they come!

My previous post about imopen was sarcasm. I removed my vote from him because it was RVS and had no substance. I'm certainly not liking Wraith's play this game, but he's such an oddball that it's hard to say what he's doing.

GR's vote on me is quite strange as well. He pops in, says nothing, and votes me. I guess my sarcasm pinged him?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:23 am
by WitchHunt
So voting wraith is a scum tell... Good to know
:D Yes. I am town, again. You also play scummy as shit EVERY game, and CM does as well. I never know what is going through G_R's brain. Suga, as usual, leaves me perplexed.

Kaz and CM on my use of doc names, I don't give a shit. I use whatever information I have and inferences that pop up. Can't turn it off (even in real life). When new information shows up; I can sideline facts temporarily. I also don't see anyone using their Doc names instead of their
screen names for "flavor".
Deeming all votes against you as scummy isn't a solid game plan, there's more to it than that.
Great vote GR! I'm as scum as they come!

My previous post about imopen was sarcasm. I removed my vote from him because it was RVS and had no substance. I'm certainly not liking Wraith's play this game, but he's such an oddball that it's hard to say what he's doing.

GR's vote on me is quite strange as well. He pops in, says nothing, and votes me. I guess my sarcasm pinged him?
I'd wager it's because you opened with voting imopen because "fuck that guy" and then followed up with "imopen is so scum". You're not giving us much to read off of that. Not that GR has much material in comparison mind you. With that in mind though, GR what are
your thoughts regarding imopen? Anything about his posts coming off as scummy to you?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:34 am
by ( G_R )
Reaction noted.

My vote was because you called him scum, then proceeded to unvote? Like, WTF?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:46 am
by Kazekirimaru
So voting wraith is a scum tell... Good to know
:D Yes. I am town, again. You also play scummy as shit EVERY game, and CM does as well. I never know what is going through G_R's brain. Suga, as usual, leaves me perplexed.

Kaz and CM on my use of doc names, I don't give a shit. I use whatever information I have and inferences that pop up. Can't turn it off (even in real life). When new information shows up; I can sideline facts temporarily. I also don't see anyone using their Doc names instead of their
screen names for "flavor".
I changed my avatar and made a ridiculously-obvious-as-fuck first post.

Hai, I'm Dr. Stein from Soul Eater.

Now stop being stupid when I'm trying to help you. I'm a pretty good player, but I'm starting to think you're even better lynchbait.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:48 am
by Kazekirimaru
imopen2 and DroppinSuga. Scumbros4life?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:40 am
by imopen2
Maybe if I don't talk to wraith he won't tunnel me for reasons like "he voted me so he must be scum".

Unvote

Vote: Stardust

What's up?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:35 am
by Stardust
What's up? What's up is that I don't work at backwoods medi clinics like the rest of you. I'm a 9 to 3 family practice doctor only. You'll get your content tomorrow.

Also, CM is scum.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:46 pm
by imopen2
What's up? What's up is that I don't work at backwoods medi clinics like the rest of you. I'm a 9 to 3 family practice doctor only. You'll get your content tomorrow.

Also, CM is scum.
You can hold the reasons for later, but where is the vote?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:09 pm
by Captain Murphy
I don't even know how to approach wraith situations in mafia anymore

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:10 pm
by Captain Murphy
I have had a constant lol at meta my entire mafia life, just because I push hard and post little reasoning every game doesn't change the fact that I end up with result. We all play differently wraith and flavorgaming is terrible

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:11 pm
by Captain Murphy
sometimes I think wraith is up to his usual and other times I think he is forcing it to pull of a mafia game, in time we will see I hope

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:47 pm
by Stardust
Sure. Our names could be tied to our roles. Asking for them could lead scum to knowing what doctor to target. Technically, WtcHunter was doctor hunting. I just realized something. Maybe scum does not know that our names could lead to our roles.
Maybe scum got obvious doctor names and are trying to hunt certain doctors. This is what I am thinking Kaz by your bolded point.
You make what appears to be a slip and explain it as merely flavour-gaming. However, I don't see anywhere where WitchHunt is actually asking for anyone's role name. Why did you jump on him for something he didn't do?


[quote="DroppinSuga » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:56 pm":
10cqc5uu]My previous post about imopen was sarcasm.[/quote]
So you're reading imopen as strong town at the moment?

... but I'm starting to think you're even better lynchbait.
Wraith is town though, right?

You can hold the reasons for later, but where is the vote?
Figured I should actually read the game instead of casting a vote based on one post in vacuum.

But yeah, don't like his involvement in the Wraith wagon. Feels really off.

Vote Captain Murphy.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:18 pm
by Wraith223
My game is off a little. I am trying to get all my shit together if I get called to Dallas PD, and I got a mild case of the flu. Not cool.

Moving on. Kaze gave me his name and I feel obligated to respond. I got stuck with Dr. Penguin. Never was a fan of American Dad, but will watch it if there is NOTHING else on. No cool abilities.

Stardust has come out swinging with decent logic. I would not mind a CM vote as he is on my scum list. CM seems to be trying to attain a scum wagon vote.

Unvote, Vote Captain Murphy

Still not wild about Iamopen2, but he tends to aggressive anyway. DroppinSuga vote, then unvote; does not read as sarcasm. It reads as a mistaken vote to appear town early game by voting his scum buddy. It’s a theory but when does DroppinSuga not post scummy/weird shit. Will watch this as it develops.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:33 pm
by Stardust
No cool abilities.
What are your abilities?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:43 pm
by Wraith223
No cool abilities.
What are your abilities?
Really? Tell me yours first. If you look up Dr. Penguin on American Dad; you can guess it easy.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:59 pm
by ( G_R )
Wraith are you scum, or did you simply skip OP?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:00 pm
by ( G_R )
Or both?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:14 pm
by Wraith223
Nope. Have not received a scum role yet. I am town again. Between flu medication and cough syrup, I may not be posting at my best. I am bored as shit though, and feel like it as well. Back to the game, I approve how you are looking for scum. I did read the OP. What about it?

Lord McDonalds is not posting much and seems to only affirm a vote on Iamopen2, but does not vote for him. Iamopen2 was poking fun at him, but he is lurking somewhat. It is early game though.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:25 pm
by Stardust
No cool abilities.
What are your abilities?
Really? Tell me yours first. If you look up Dr. Penguin on American Dad; you can guess it easy.
Okay. I'm the Doctor. Consider this a counterclaim. Unless you'd like to claim something else, of course...

Unvote, Vote Wraith.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:06 pm
by Wraith223
Doctor of What (role)? I am a doctor as well moron, and don’t care if you vote me trying to force my role. Captain Murphy is the better target and you know it. That is a crappy counterclaim. I am not changing my vote to you as I know you are just fishing.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:16 pm
by Wraith223
I think the stupidity stems from him being scum, not as a townie. But I am really enjoying this great English lesson you are putting together this game Proffesor Kaze
Was this day talking from CM to Kaze? English Lesson? I consistently play stupid according to many of you and I am town past and this game(s).
I have had a constant lol at meta my entire mafia life, just because I push hard and post little reasoning every game doesn't change the fact that I end up with result. We all play differently wraith and flavorgaming is terrible
What results?
Manders caught you doc hunting last game and you quit for Red to replace you? You are scum again.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:25 pm
by Wraith223
Cause I am bored and can’t sleep from coughing.

Town:
G_R
Stardust
Me
WitchHunt
Null:
Lord McDonalds (lurking)
Iamopen2 (moving towards town)
DroppinSuga (has me disturbed with the odd unvote)
Kaze (possible day talk with CM)
Scum
Captain Murphy (is not scum hunting, trying to get votes on me with hate for false claim of flavor gaming, making shit up on getting results)

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:35 pm
by Kazekirimaru
unvote; vote: Wraith

Okay, I've warmed up to this idea.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:36 pm
by Kazekirimaru
My vote isn't moving, by the way.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:41 pm
by Mcdonalds
Wraith, you realize Murphy is scum hunting, he just thinks your scum.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:41 pm
by Mcdonalds
vote wraith

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:46 pm
by Stardust
Unvote.

Kaze, why are you voting for Wraith?