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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:52 pm
by LP, of the Fires
^Agree. I would fuck up a mascot on national television.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:02 am
by LP, of the Fires
Pedros!
Starting the 4 color token monstrosity brews.
[deck]4 Soldier of the Pantheon
1 Herald of Anafenza
4 Raise the Alarm
1 Tymaret, the Murder King
3 Brimaz
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Purphors, God of the Forge
3 Butcher of the Horde
2 Mardu Ascendancy
1 Abzan Ascendancy
1 Spear of Heliod
2 Suspension Field
3 Mardu Charm
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
2 Ajani, Steadfast
1 Ajani, Mentor of Heros
2 Plains
1 Mountain
1 Swamp
1 Forest
3 Battlefield Forge
3 Caves of Koilois
1 Temple of Malice
3 Nomads Outpost
3 Mana Confluence
2 Windswept Heath
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Wooded Foothills[/deck]
Mana base is fine, not great. You get to cast all your non green spells on time and (mostly)on curve.
Is the Splash worth it? Mistcutter hydra and Xenagos are good cards that are absent and probably deserve inclusion in the 75. On top of that there's half a set remaining to be spoiled, so I'm optimistic.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:07 am
by TBuzzsaw
4 Color tokens? Girl, you crazy.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:05 am
by TBuzzsaw
Bloodstained Hero can't block.
Raid: [mana]1B[/mana]: Return a Bloodstained Hero from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate this ability only if you attacked with a creature this turn.
The translation is unconfirmed, but I wonder if a copy has to be on the field for the Raid to work, or you can bring it back from the graveyard even if you don't have a copy on the battlefield.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:31 am
by Alex
Wow that card is fucking retarded.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:32 am
by Alex
There's no way that's the right translation for that.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:03 am
by LP, of the Fires
That's correct. I think card is good, not ZOMG BUSTED though.
I mean, I'll definitely play it, but I'm assuming it's not as good as Soldier of the Pantheon. It DOES combo nicely with purphoros.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:04 am
by RedNihilist
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:11 am
by Alex
That's correct. I think card is good, not ZOMG BUSTED though.
I mean, I'll definitely play it, but I'm assuming it's not as good as Soldier of the Pantheon. It DOES combo nicely with purphoros.
We're going to have to disagree here. I don't know if you've ever played with
Bloodghast, but this card is almost as good as that, and Bloodghast is REALLY good.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:24 am
by LP, of the Fires
Card is nowhere near as good as bloodghast. Ghast had situational haste and was recurable by simply playing magic.
This card is a solid one-drop that requires actual mana spent to recur. It's still good, but it's not busted.
Having to attack is also a mostly marginal but real cost in addition to the fact that you have to recur on your turn and not instant speed like ghast with fetches.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:43 am
by magicdownunder
That seems quite powerful...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:46 am
by TBuzzsaw
That thing is ridiculous if it's real.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:12 am
by LP, of the Fires
Now THAT'S a stupid magic card!
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:27 am
by Lightning_Dolt
I remember Gravecrawler...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:31 am
by Jack
Heyyyy a multicolor card I actually want to play in Riku.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:54 am
by Pedros
Pedros!
Starting the 4 color token monstrosity brews.
[deck]4 Soldier of the Pantheon
1 Herald of Anafenza
4 Raise the Alarm
1 Tymaret, the Murder King
3 Brimaz
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Purphors, God of the Forge
3 Butcher of the Horde
2 Mardu Ascendancy
1 Abzan Ascendancy
1 Spear of Heliod
2 Suspension Field
3 Mardu Charm
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
2 Ajani, Steadfast
1 Ajani, Mentor of Heros
2 Plains
1 Mountain
1 Swamp
1 Forest
3 Battlefield Forge
3 Caves of Koilois
1 Temple of Malice
3 Nomads Outpost
3 Mana Confluence
2 Windswept Heath
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Wooded Foothills[/deck]
Mana base is fine, not great. You get to cast all your non green spells on time and (mostly)on curve.
Is the Splash worth it? Mistcutter
hydra and Xenagos are good cards that are absent and probably deserve inclusion in the 75. On top of that there's half a set remaining to be spoiled, so I'm optimistic.
My brew time would start when all cards are spoiled. I really like this set as I love 4 color decks.
I think core color would be white. Red probably splash only for rabblemaster/purphoros/ascendancy/charm. Cant discard blue (charms are awsome, along with potential negates and epharas) and green (charms, ascendancy, xenagos). I will have to work hard on manabases - I think I will use those tri-lands a lot.
And Soldier of the Pantheon is going to be huge.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:19 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Three years of black having better 1 drops than white or red lol.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:52 pm
by Dechs Kaison
Three years of black having better 1 drops than white or red lol.
Yeah. Finally back to fucking normal around here.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:52 pm
by Dechs Kaison
Also, just noticed the friendly fetches are being reprinted. This is good for my Zedruu deck.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:20 pm
by Purp
Jsilv drops a sweet article today. Mono Black aggro looks really appealing.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:38 pm
by rcwraspy
Jsilv drops a sweet article today. Mono Black aggro looks really appealing.
not really a fan of enchantment creatures in a format where
End Hostilities will be the go-to sweeper.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:49 pm
by Purp
Agreed there. But I think mogis marauder will be pretty awesome in the format. Also, the bloodsoaked warrior has some great syngergy with the Butcher.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:02 pm
by rcwraspy
Agreed there. But I think mogis marauder will be pretty awesome in the format. Also, the bloodsoaked warrior has some great syngergy with the Butcher.
Well, of course we'll have to see how it all plays out but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Marauder was actually much weaker in the new format. Remember, we're getting 3 full clans whose creatures will have B in their mana costs (Mardu, Abzan, Sultai). That could mean a lot less intimidate goodness.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:13 pm
by TBuzzsaw
Marauder and crew are going to be awful if Abzan aggro/midrange takes off. They won't be intimidating Goat Lady and rhino anytime soon.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:31 pm
by BlakLanner
Something tells me I am not going to like this Standard much more than the last. I hate battlecruiser Magic.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:44 pm
by Kaitscralt
I think Alex is thinking the one drop an recur any creature with his name? Way to take the translation literally...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:48 pm
by Pedros
Black/X agro looks quite good.
Question if it can handle Caryatid and X/4 for 3 and X/5 for 4. Imediate answer -> not really currently. Cant see any 2 mana removal spell that does it, or any combat tricks similar to makka. Best answer? Fly over or go wide.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:58 pm
by Pedros
Dont have a single Mana Confluence. Would you buy them for 15$ each?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:38 pm
by Alex
Going to do a few run Cubetutor drafts on my cube and Suga's cube.
http://www.twitch.tv/gweivyth
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:11 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Dont have a single Mana Confluence. Would you buy them for 15$ each?
Picked them up with FNM prize money at $8 when Khans was announced.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:14 pm
by hamfactorial
Dont have a single Mana Confluence. Would you buy them for 15$ each?
Picked them up with FNM prize money at $8 when Khans was announced.
Sweet brag but would you buy them at $15?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:18 pm
by Valdarith
I don't think they will be lower than $15 for awhile. I'd be confident in buying if I needed them.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:22 pm
by Tyrael
Black/X agro looks quite good.
Question if it can handle Caryatid and X/4 for 3 and X/5 for 4. Imediate answer -> not really currently. Cant see any 2 mana removal spell that does it, or any combat tricks similar to makka. Best answer? Fly over or go wide.
Spiteful Returned,
Agent of The Fates, Ruthless Ripper, ...
I don't know but splashing white might not be that bad of an idea considering we get Athreos, the new Sorin, Utter End and Suspension Field (maybe Banishing Light too) as excellent additions to the list.
Man, if only they had reprinted Xathrid Necromancer...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:27 pm
by rcwraspy
Black/X agro looks quite good.
Question if it can handle Caryatid and X/4 for 3 and X/5 for 4. Imediate answer -> not really currently. Cant see any 2 mana removal spell that does it, or any combat tricks similar to makka. Best answer? Fly over or go wide.
Spiteful Returned,
Agent of The Fates, Ruthless Ripper, ...
I don't know but splashing white might not be that bad of an idea considering we get Athreos, the new Sorin, Utter End and Suspension Field (maybe Banishing Light too) as excellent additions to the list.[/quote:
oikxck1e]
some mono black aggro decks have played
Boon of Erebos.
This set will also provide
Murderous Cut and
Crackling Doom to help black/Mardu get through fatty blockers.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:46 pm
by Valdarith
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:46 pm
by Valdarith
WOTC playing with my emotions. RUG was looking awesome, then I liked Jeskai, and now Mardu looks pretty enticing.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:53 pm
by rcwraspy
I want to play something that has Rabblemaster because army in a can. And the Butcher looks like a solid magic card with decent synergy with Rabblemaster. And now the black one-drop looks solid as well and ALSO has synergy with the Butcher. So I'm all-in on Mardu.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:54 pm
by rcwraspy
just need to figure out the 2-drop spot.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:20 pm
by Self Medicated
just need to figure out the 2-drop spot.
Tymaret, the Murder King?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:26 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Dont have a single Mana Confluence. Would you buy them for 15$ each?
Picked them up with FNM prize money at $8 when Khans was announced.
Sweet brag but would you buy them at $15?
If you plan to play multicolour, yes. If you want to force mono colour, no. Or you could force mono at the beginning of the season and punish people who don't have their decks worked out to collect prize money
and buy confluences.