[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Purp]

Honestly, the coverage has been the best ive seen all weekend, minus the fact we couldn't just hear the SB plans.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Is there anywhere we can view tge top 16 or 32 decklists?

[Valdarith]

I like the new Standard quite a bit. Looks to be quite healthy.

agreed. It seems like there's a competitive deck for just about everybody.

except people who want to play Mardu lol.

There are actually a couple of really good Mardu decks. The walkers list immediately comes to mind.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Just looking at the top 8, seems like Jeskai and Abzan work and that's about it. UB was the breakout deck of the format, but it's not particularly interesting either.

I was really hoping there would be some exciting / innovative decks like the aristocrats coming out of gatecrash.now I have to continue thinking for myself

[Purp]

There were plenty of other good decks, just because it didn't top 8 (they could suck at limited), I can think of atleast 6 other viable decks.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Have they published the top decks from the standard portion somewhere?

[BlakLanner]

You don't tend to get a full set of deck lists until a day or two after the event.

[Purp]

brad nelsons deck, todds deck, levys deck, a few gr monsters, a few gb devotions, the rw tokens deck, ascendancy tokens are just a few "good" decks I can think of.

[Khaospawn]

Man, Jeskai just has such a hard time against Abzan. I saw this happen all day yesterday at States too.

[LP, of the Fires]

Who the fuck is letting Zach Hill and Marshall Sutcliff commentate unsupervised by LSV.

[LP, of the Fires]

Basically the matchup is God aweful game 1 and close to even or favorable for the jeskai player postboard, but depending on how the threats line up to the answers, Junk player can still take it.

There's a reason you see everyone with some number of prog sphinx or keranos in the board. The easiest way to beat jeskai is to answer there threats.

[BlakLanner]

Well, this matchup is damn near impossible when your opponent has double Rhino each game.

[Khaospawn]

Who the fuck is letting Zach Hill and Marshall Sutcliff commentate unsupervised by LSV.

I fucking hate listening to Zach Hill.

[zemanjaski]

Stuck at work, updates greatly appreciated.

#flochsmirk

[Purp]

update for zem: Wingmate is amazing.

[Khaospawn]

@ Zem - All the Abzan decks have won. Just waiting for MClaren's Jeskai Wins vs the Jeskai Ascendency.

[LP, of the Fires]

Ari and Abzan vs. Yuya and Jeskai.

Yuuya loses a pretty normal game one. Burn spells and fragile creatures are bad vs. Lifegain and big creatures. Game 2, Yuuya floods out and Ari outvalued him.

Saporiti Abzan vs. Strasky Jeskai.

More of the same. Game 1, Abzan wins with tri-rhino. Game 2, Strasky goes 2 drop>3 drop>countermagic+burn spells. Game 3, trip rhino gets there again.

Floch and UB vs. Sigrist and abzan agro(my favorite deck in top .

Sigrist effectively mulls to 4, abzan charms into fleecemane and rakshasa deathdealer vs. Flochs disdainful strokes and zero removal. 2 drops two good. Second game, flochs draw is awkward and he gets outmuscled by rocs, vampires, and Ajani.

Combo vs. burn coming up next(McClaren probably has the best jeskai deck for the top 8 assuming he gets past combo which has an interesting transformational board).

[Khaospawn]

McLaren took Game 1....

[Purp]

Nothing new from watching McClaren.... Jeskai is great when you have a turn 3 mantis rider, but as wantanabe showed us, its terrible to come back from behind when you don't.

[Khaospawn]

Looks like McLaren has Game 2 as well....

[LP, of the Fires]

McClarens deck is built to be able to play different roles much better. I did like how Yuuya's deck was built to grab a lead and keep it, but McClaren's has 4 dig through time, 2 maindeck anger of the gods and a pair of keranos in his board.

This nigga's deck is tight.

[zemanjaski]

LP can I get some input:
[deck]Floch Control, Zem version[/deck]
Creatures
3 Prognostic Sphinx

Sorceries
4 Despise
2 Drown in Sorrow
2 Thoughtseize

Instants
3 Bile Blight
4 Dig Througg Time
4 Disdainful Stroke
4 Dissolve
4 Hero's Downfall
2 Jace's Ingenuity
2 Silence the Believers

Lands
2 Bloodstained Mire
4 Dismal Backwater
1 Flooded Strand
5 Island
4 Polluted Delta
5 Swamp
4 Temple of Deceit
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

Sideboard
3 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
1 Bile Blight
2 Drown in Sorrow
2 Jorubai Murklurker
3 Negate
1 Set Adrift
1 Silence the Believers
2 Thoughtseize
[/deck]

Basically made some changes for personal preference; few taplands, more card draw, less win cons.

[BlakLanner]

Ugh, Thragtusk mirrors all over again. This match is taking forever.

[LP, of the Fires]

LP can I get some input:
[deck]Floch Control, Zem version[/deck]
Creatures
3 Prognostic Sphinx

Sorceries
4 Despise
2 Drown in Sorrow
2 Thoughtseize

Instants
3 Bile Blight
4 Dig Througg Time
4 Disdainful Stroke
4 Dissolve
4 Hero's Downfall
2 Jace's Ingenuity
2 Silence the Believers

Lands
2 Bloodstained Mire
4 Dismal Backwater
1 Flooded Strand
5 Island
4 Polluted Delta
5 Swamp
4 Temple of Deceit
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

Sideboard
3 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
1 Bile Blight
2 Drown in Sorrow
2 Jorubai Murklurker
3 Negate
1 Set Adrift
1 Silence the Believers
2 Thoughtseize
[/deck]

Basically made some changes for personal preference; few taplands, more card draw, less win cons.

Second silence in the main seems clunky and I wasn't a fan of 4 despise(they become dead draws fairly quickly). I liked Owen's list with Aetherspouts and perilous vaults. I also think this list was heavily metagamed for a PT courser heavy meta and that there's 1 or 2 more counterspells main then I'd want, but they're fairly excellent in the matchups that you want them.

I couldn't give you CFB Pantheons list since it's not posted, but I think it's approx:

4 Dig Through Time
4 Disdainful Stroke
4 Dissolve
3 Bile Blight
4 Hero's Downfall
3 Jace's Ingenuity
1 AEtherspouts
3 Murderous Cut

3 Perilous Vault
3 Thoughtseize

4 Island
4 Swamp
4 Polluted Delta
4 Temple of Deceit
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Evolving Wilds
1 Flooded Strand
1 Bloodstained Mire
4 Dismal Backwater
1 Radiant Fountain

2 Pearl Lake Ancient

[zemanjaski]

TY.

On of my buddies from Sneak and Show (Don) top 16'd!

[LP, of the Fires]

This is like, the only pro tour where the best decks are actually in the top 4.

Likely playing something similar to one of these three lists at the GP this weekend.

[LP, of the Fires]

Shaun McClaren Vs. Ari Lax in the finals. McClaren loses if Sigrist plays rhino over sorin on turn 4.

[LP, of the Fires]

McClarens sideboard also looks GREAT for the best of 5 finals.

[Valdarith]

Go Shaun go!

[BlakLanner]

And Shaun falls in G1 to the one weakness of the deck: color screw + dual Siege Rhino.

[zemanjaski]

Yeah I really need to not let comments get to me, this time it's me that's the worst.

[zemanjaski]

Thanks for the updates.

[BlakLanner]

After taking G2, McLaren falls yet again to multiple Rhinos.

[zemanjaski]

Of course there's a disconnect between knowing I do the wrong thing and fixing it. Uggggh I need to grow up.

[zemanjaski]

Ari is going to be insufferable. Nevertheless, well done.

[BlakLanner]

Not over yet. Best of 5.

[TBuzzsaw]

This deck is such a hot mess but I can't help but love it:

[deck]
Creatures
4 Hornet Nest
1 Hornet Queen
4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Courser of Kruphix

Planeswalkers
3 Nissa, WorldWaker

Lands
2 Forest
1 Island
1 Mountain
1 Swamp
4 Frontier Bivouac
4 Llanowar Wastes
3 Mana Confluence
4 Opulent Palace
2 Wooded Foothills
2 Yavimaya Coast

Spells
2 Dig Through Time
4 Disdainful Stroke
4 Hero's Downfall
2 Sultai Charm
4 Temur Charm
4 Divination

Sideboard
4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Nylea's Disciple
3 Doomwake Giant
2 Sultai Charm
2 Bow of Nylea
[/deck]



As for Ari, I'm indifferent since I think he's only playing the role of a douche to throw people off. It's sorta like watching anything else, we need villains to make things more interesting. As for his Abzan deck, I love it. I'd be 100% into Abzan if it wasn't for the fact that I run into Green Devotion way too much.

[BlakLanner]

Lax wins in 4 with an incredibly lucky topdeck. How disappointing.

[LP, of the Fires]

Lax takes the day.

Well played.

[zemanjaski]

Ari doesn't play the douche lol.