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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:35 pm
by redthirst
How is babby Hellrider formed?
Well... sometimes you ride Hell, and sometimes Hell rides you.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:56 pm
by redthirst
BTW, fuck 40k right in its addictive ass.

I figured I would maybe do a small Tau army to play every now and then - no biggie.

Well, it's been two weeks and I've bought most of an 1850 tournament list and have also started working on a 123-strong Terminator army for Apocalypse.

God dammit...

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:09 pm
by windstrider
How is babby Hellrider formed?
Well... sometimes you ride Hell, and sometimes Hell rides you.
Otherwise known as going on a date with redthirst. ;-)

M14 looks kinda meh overall, but we got some fun toys to play with in red. I really like Mindsparker. It hates on the spells we want it to hate on, and it can kill quite a few creatures on its own.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:34 pm
by Sasky
So it's Monday Night Modern MM pack grinders, and I lent my usual deck (Real Steel) to my friend for GPKC. All of my Tarmogoyfs were also with him since he took my Legacy deck with him too.

That being said, I just took AIR and put Stormblood Berserkers and Lightning Bolts in it. No regrets, I went 7-1. I punted one match to Storm, getting him to 1 after bolting his Electromancer instead of him earlier into the game. :(

[deck]Modern AIR[/deck]

I wastelanded so many people with those Ghost Quarters. I do not regret simply skipping Mutavault. :yes: My sideboard is super sketchy and all-around pretty bad but I was in a hurry so I just went "Okay this kills pod, this is good against rug, blood moon is hysterical, whatever fuck it g2g." Shrines are apparently just as good in Modern as they were in Standard, though. :smileup:
I don't think you punted at all. You could have lost much earlier vs storm if you did not bolt his goblin.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:57 pm
by Valdarith
BTW, fuck 40k right in its addictive ass.

I figured I would maybe do a small Tau army to play every now and then - no biggie.

Well, it's been two weeks and I've bought most of an 1850 tournament list and have also started working on a 123-strong Terminator army for Apocalypse.

God dammit...
I've been away from 40k for about three years now. How have the rules changed with regards to Deathwing / Ravenwing? I have about 5000 pts of them sitting in my closet and have no idea if some or all of them are even playable anymore.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:45 pm
by redthirst
BTW, fuck 40k right in its addictive ass.

I figured I would maybe do a small Tau army to play every now and then - no biggie.

Well, it's been two weeks and I've bought most of an 1850 tournament list and have also started working on a 123-strong Terminator army for Apocalypse.

God dammit...
I've been away from 40k for about three years now. How have the rules changed with regards to Deathwing / Ravenwing? I have about 5000 pts of them sitting in my closet and have no idea if some or all of them are even playable anymore.
Not a DA player, but they
recently got a new codex and, from what I can tell, you can still play all DW, or all RW, or all DW/RW, or just a regular list.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:49 pm
by TubeHunter
Hah! Nerd!

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:03 pm
by Link
cockatrice has a m14 update.


Mutavault+hellrider is everything it james promised it would be

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:17 pm
by RedNihilist
need
cockatrice
update...

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:50 pm
by Alex
So...this happened.
Oi...
Image

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:53 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Honor me guize I liek banners

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:54 pm
by Link
the link was on reddit/cockatrice somewhere

series to which bracket?

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:55 pm
by Alex
Honor me guize I liek banners
I'll never get a banner, I've been suspended wayyyyyy too many times. I tend to mute my entire team as soon as the game loads, and apparently that's just as offensive as verbally abusing them. *Shrug.*

Silver IV? Idk, I don't play that much, I mostly play Heroes of Newerth.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:03 pm
by TubeHunter
I don't get it....

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:04 pm
by Self Medicated
I tend to mute my entire team as soon as the game loads
This is standard operating procedure whenever I'm on Xbox Live. I always appreciate the people that have their Kinect mic on, blaring shitty music in the background while their unattended child screams for their mom or baby daddy.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:05 pm
by Kazekirimaru
That game makes me rage out of my mind. I can't be arsed to play it more than once a month anymore.

Seriously, random queue made me realize a whole new existential plane of pure anger that I never even knew existed.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:07 pm
by Alex
Teemo and I were mid, too. We shat on their Orianna incredibly hard. It was kind of a perfect storm.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:24 pm
by hamfactorial
It's all about DOTA 2, brahs.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:26 pm
by Alex
I can't have Steam on my PC. I would go broke.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:32 pm
by hamfactorial
Poor impulse control is the hallmark of the red mage!

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:48 pm
by Valdarith
So it's Monday Night Modern MM pack grinders, and I lent my usual deck (Real Steel) to my friend for GPKC. All of my Tarmogoyfs were also with him since he took my Legacy deck with him too.

That being said, I just took AIR and put Stormblood Berserkers and Lightning Bolts in it. No regrets, I went 7-1. I punted one match to Storm, getting him to 1 after bolting his Electromancer instead of him earlier into the game. :(

I wastelanded so many people with those Ghost Quarters. I do not regret simply skipping Mutavault. :yes: My sideboard is super sketchy and all-around pretty bad but I was in
a hurry so I just went "Okay this kills pod, this is good against rug, blood moon is hysterical, whatever fuck it g2g." Shrines are apparently just as good in Modern as they were in Standard, though. :smileup:
Ever have any awkward hands with 1 Ghost Quarter and 1 Mountain as your lands and two of BTE or Wardriver? 4 Ghost Quarter is way too loose for my tastes. I'd probably run two at most.

Thanks for posting this though. I've been dumping tons of money into my new home so buying some of the cards for my mono red affinity deck is on the backburner. Now I'm thinking of building something similar.

[deck]
Creatures (38)
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Legion Loyalist
3 Rakdos Cackler
3 Signal Pest
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Goblin Wardriver
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Lightning Mauler
4 Stormblood Berserker
4 Keldon Marauders

Spells (4)
4 Lightning Bolt

Lands (18)
n2 Ghost Quarter
16 Mountain

Sideboard (15)
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Gut Shot
1 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Torpor Orb
3 Smash to Smithereens
4 Shrine of Burning Rage
[/deck]

Gut Shots in the side because I hear infect decks are rampant locally.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:02 pm
by Alex
Foundry Street Denizen is pretty terrible without Krenko's Command, honestly. Just play Goblin Bushwhacker instead.

Mana was good to me. My average opener was 2-3 mana, and the hands where it was "relevant" I always had another line anyway. More often than not it was "Turn 1 Stromkirk into turn 2 Wasteland you." Stromkirk was good under these circumstances but kind of miserable everywhere else.

Also Signal Pest is leaps and bounds better than the Cacklers you're forcing.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:04 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I just legitimately went for a run for the first time since high school.

brb drying

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:32 pm
by Valdarith
Foundry Street Denizen is pretty terrible without Krenko's Command, honestly. Just play Goblin Bushwhacker instead.
He's my replacement for Goblin Guide really. I really want at least 12 one drops besides Bushwhacker since I'll never play him on T1. Plus with Legion Loyalist, BTE, and Bushwhacker I can have some rather insane turn 2-3 plays. It could be correct to play Krenko's instead of Keldon Marauders or even the Bolts.
Mana was good to me. My average opener was 2-3 mana, and the hands where it was "relevant" I always had another line anyway. More often than not it was "Turn 1 Stromkirk into turn 2 Wasteland you." Stromkirk was good under these circumstances but kind of miserable everywhere else.[
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I can imagine Stromkirk was pretty bad. I have very limited knowledge of the Modern meta here as I've never attended a Modern FNM but I imagine my Ghost Quarters won't be nearly as effective. I expect a lot of mono-colored and fetchless decks.
Also Signal Pest is leaps and bounds better than the Cacklers you're forcing.
I should probably bump Pest to a four of, take out the Cacklers, and add a couple of Krenko's Command.

Wardriver on field turn two with turn three BTE into Signal Pest into kicked Bushwhacker seems like big game.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:13 pm
by PirateKingAtomsk
It may just be me underestimating it, but keldon marauders seems like a bad card (mind you I don't play modern(yet) so I don't know what to expect from the more popular decks on or around turn 3) the way I see it, it approximates to either a 2 mana lava axe with suspend 2 or a 2 mana shock with suspend 2 which doesn't seem that great. With at least half your creature pool being goblins you could pop in goblin grenades instead to lava axe for 1 after running them over with your creatures.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:16 pm
by PirateKingAtomsk
After some more thought marauders isn't terrible but really seem like it would need to be cast on the end of a bte chain to get the most value from it.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:25 pm
by Valdarith
After some more thought marauders isn't terrible but really seem like it would need to be cast on the end of a bte chain to get the most value from it.
My thoughts on Keldon Marauders in this deck:

1) We are playing an all-in build that wants to kill on turn four consistently. As long as we get one attack in with him, he's done his work.
2) He's another body to chain BTE with.
3) Marauder into Bushwhacker or pairing it with a Lightning Mauler is pretty ridiculous.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:34 pm
by Valdarith
I've also just realized we may want some number of Mogg War Marshall in the main, especially if I have Denizen in the deck. Then I could actually run a couple of Goblin Grenade as well.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:26 pm
by Alex
And then you add Goblin Grenades. And Goblin Chieftain. And Bloodmark Mentor. And Cavern of Souls.

See where I'm going here?

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:35 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Yeah, I didn't want to be the one to tell him he was starting to make goblins. Though I'm pretty sure bloodmark mentor is going too deep.

In other news, with m14 out on trice now, it's time to start working on breaking Young Pyromancer for reals. Burn at the stake combo? Ogre Batteldriver? Barrage of Expendable?

I don't know, but the work looks enjoyable so I look forward to diving in later this evening.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:58 pm
by Alex
You say deep. I say awesome.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:59 pm
by Alex
Also obviously there is no better 1drop than Grim Lavamancer, but I didn't have my fetches on-hand, so...

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:13 am
by Valdarith
Yeah I actually came to the realization that I was building goblins on my way home from work. Hell, maybe that's what I really want to run. Time to do more thinking.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:18 am
by DroppinSuga
Play Goblins. Profit.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:49 am
by zemanjaski
Remember this was in standard:

[deck]
4 goblin arsonist
4 goblin chieftain
4 goblin fireslinger
4 goblin wardriver
4 spikeshot elder

1 krenko, mob boss

4 arc trail
3 brimstone volley
4 goblin grenade
4 Krenko's command
2 pillar of flame

4 cavern of souls
4 copperline gorge
2 hellion crucible
12 mountain

Sideboard
2 ancient grudge
2 combust
2 krenko, mob boss
2 pillar of flame
4 shrine of burning rage
3 traitorous blood
[/deck]

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:50 am
by Jack
I played goblins for a bit in the last few months of Scars Standard, for the times I didn't feel like playing Infect. It was my first "real" deck (one that wasn't just a modified intro pack). 'Twas very fun. Wardriver, Chieftain, Krenko, Hellrider, Shrine of Burning Rage, Goblin Grenade and Krenko's Command made for one hell of a standard goblin deck. Truth be told, I'd rather be playing that deck in standard right now than the ( probably much more powerful) Gruul list I currently play.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:00 am
by Jack
Hell, I really miss that deck. Spikeshot Elder is probably my favorite card, and it always brought me so much joy when my opponent was at 6 and I draw Brimstone Volley/Goblin Grenade with Goblin Arsonist in play. This deck just had so many fun ways to finish your opponent off, with Shrine of Burning Rage, TBlood and the like.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:03 am
by Calamity
It's all about DOTA 2, brahs.
I've been playing LoL to learn how to play the genre, then switch to DotA 2

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:49 am
by TubeHunter
Frost deck I've ever played was dungrove.deck god that deck was fun. Then I played zombies for a long while. Probably would've liked it a lot more if I wasn't (as expected from a new player) really fucking bad.

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:58 am
by PirateKingAtomsk
Also obviously there is no better 1drop than figure of destiny, but I didn't have my fetches on-hand, so...
fixed that for you