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p.s. - kinda wary about joining the wagon w/ Suga on it (still can't decide if he's town/scum) but hey maybe he's town and on to something

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I like Red's case (even if I think he's tunneling a bit) and the way he's trying to hunt for scum there... I don't like how he dodged the question in 500(502). red is trying to contribute despite being at a high wagon close to deadline and he has a confirmable role you guys even if he's scum we get ...

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"last time" being Theros Mafia iirc?

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the thing about his claim is that it's something confirmable last time I brought this logic up I got yelled at because "IT'S NOT CONFIRMED HE COULD BE SCUM LYING HURR DURR" but yeah, he's either a town or scum watcher (dunno why scum random-role would claim watcher for no reason?) so he'll...

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unvote in case Stardust misses it in that block of text. also, rezzy, nothing of what you said really 'damns' red as scum. - use of language w/r/t "watcher" is not indicative of scum, nor is name-calling - red pointing out ham's claim reaction isn't scummy - I do not get the point on the ...

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is it bad if I'm slightly leaning town on Red now but still want to vote him? ISO him real quick - he interacts with Wraith early on, then asks Wraith about rez/ham. this shows a town mindset because Red himself is unsure of his reads on the two, so asking someone who may be a scumread of his (he su...

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tell me more about what scum don't do, pie. too big of a list, but I'd be glad to bring things up as they happened. so red's essentially claiming a watcher for the mail mechanic? eh, I actually don't know one way or the other if I buy the claim. leaning slightly towards believing it actually, but I...

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ps - leaning slightly more town on LMD for reasons I forget, and slightly more town on imopen because the repeated frustration the past few pages seems maybe more like town but I dunno.

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rez isn't scum because scum doesn't draw attention to themselves with the ham thing oh my fucking god. posting this constantly mostly to remind myself because this game is dragging and I keep forgetting my reads: still town - rez, ham, me, wraith, CM, Jack, C_P others - red, LMD, rcw, imopen, Suga s...

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what about Red do I find more attractive?

~reasons~

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*group of 5

MATH IS HARD

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still town - rez, ham, me, wraith, CM, Jack, C_P others - red, LMD, rcw, imopen, Suga fine with voting literally anyone in that group of 3. even if I'm somehow wrong on one of rez/ham (don't think I am but still), we have a 50/50 chance lynching there. LMD's vote on the hamwagon still bad buuuuuuut ...

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obvious prod dodge

been busy with prerelease, work, and other mafia games near deadlines, will try to get around to posting soon.

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rez is bad town because he's voting Jack like a dumbfuck. hence why I posted why Jack is also town: that was directed at Rez for the most part, while saying rez is town was mostly said towards Wraith who is voting rez. the fact that we're both suspicious of you is irrelevant. because I can't remembe...

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rez is town for drawing attention to himself with the hamwagon, he's just being bad.

Jack is also town because read his fucking post about the mail system again and ask yourself why the fuck would scum post that.

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and why was your reaction "I didn't ask you anything," rather than listening to your fellow townie when they say you misrep'd and then looking back at your post and the post in question to see where you might have gone wrong? your reaction doesn't feel like very good team-work. it feels l...

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unvote Which leaves this lynch pool, FMPOV: imopen2 DroppinSuga RedNihilist rcw Lord_M [rcw Suga Lord_M] were on the ham wagon, so it's probably best to start there. I like Suga's vote the least but his posts this page give me good vibes for some reason. rcw did a lot of question-asking without fol...

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Like I already mentioned a scum buddy mindset of wraith at a ham scum flip, the others I like to hold close to my chest the fuck is the town motivation for this then again, the fuck is the scum motivation for saying this (aside from not committing to reads, I get that, but it's starting to feel too...

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So what is the point of saying "votes on ham should be looked at later" (paraphrasing) whilst he's being wagoned if you think it's not useful to [i:294sdm3z]actually[/i:294sdm3z] discuss until he flips? That makes your 'content' useless. Furthermore, when you say this at the point where ha...

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Feel free to take me off hold for my game btw. Since I should be able to mod it by the time it's eligible (2 completed games from now).

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The "I bet 1+ scum were voting ham, look at that later" combined with not following up on that, combined with refusing to give reads, just reeks of scum saying they should hunt on the wagon tomorrow (that's the way scum prefer to line up lynches as opposed to outright saying "lynch x ...

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unvote vote Captain Murphy Town motivation is to find scum. Saying there's one scum on a wagon, even if the wagonee is scum themselves, is fine. But a townie would at least try to guess at who the scum are on the wagon (even if they kept it to themselves), by looking at how and when people voted, b...

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You're still avoiding my questions. Do you think we should still hunt for scum on ham's wagon (you said earlier there was one scum on it regardless of ham's alignment) even though you're now voting him? And who is the current most likely scum that's voted ham today? I don't know who is the likely s...

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@pie : not quoting things makes it kind of difficult to respond. no it doesn't. I just hate the quote feature on this forum, mafiascum.net has spoiled me. and there was only one thing I didn't quote. Actually, two. Here: InflatablePie says he doesn't see me as scum, but doesn't like Suga's vote ver...

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well that answers part of what you quoted

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ebwop: I was going to type something else but left it as "Finally,". um... I got distracted and forgot what else I was going to bring up. oh well

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sidenote - if everyone could please keep in mind "town motivation" and "scum motivation and "occam's razor", I think we can have a very enjoyable game.

I feel like I'll have to go back and quote this post a lot this game.

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I have a huge problem with a good chunk of rezzy's "case" on p4. Sarcasm is scummy I mean this in the least offensive way possible: are you an idiot? Why can't I talk shit during RVS? Because it doesn't help catch scum. What does help catch scum in the first few posts of the game, pray tel...

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I broke a tag, oops. must resist urge to edit D:

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Agree with CaptainMurphy re: meta. I try my best not to let meta affect my judgement in general. To be fair, this site has fewer games going on and thus when you're playing with the same dozen of people it's kind of hard to block out using meta completely. Also agree re: scum on the ham wagon. Getti...

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[quote="[url=http://diestoremoval.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=215130#p215130:26d8q389]Cursed_Pride » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:07 am[/url:26d8q389]":26d8q389]If you don't see hamfactorial as scum, and you don't like DroppinSuga's vote, then how come you aren't voting DroppinSuga? Why are you keep...

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not seeing ham scum

not liking Suga's vote much

this is a haiku

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I know someone just got yelled at for talking about cards yet-to-be-released, but I would like to point out the new land that was announced, Mana Confluence . Something to possibly play over Guildgates in order to hit white mana more effectively, but obviously speeding up the mirror due to the lifel...

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Although the scry sources may help with filtering, I feel like the deck can use something to help curve out since there's so many comes-in-tapped lands. Something like extra shocklands, since you're running Fiendslayer and Unflinching Courage and don't care about life as much. Hmm... http://mythicsp...

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I'd sheep the innocent child but he's currently voting the mod

so that's useful

vote imopen2

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/in

you're lucky I like you, Starbuck

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Bad weather means no FNM for me since I bike everywhere, bleh. Probably changing my main to -1 Whip/-2 Phoenix, +3 LBZombie, replacing them in the SB with +1 UPrice +1 DBetrayal and ???. Both help against monoB to make up for LBZ being worse game one, and UPrice is a 7th MoW killspell postboard. Mig...

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Return seems more powerful in a Rx Devotion shell now that I think about it. Returning for 5 is usually by turn 7, whereas it's much more backbreaking to be able to pull that off on turn 4/5. It's also better against midrange (MBD) than control (UW) since it can be countered. [edit] As far as removi...

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Also, I'm tempted to go -1 Shock MB and add two Bile Blights instead of the one-of Whip (probably better than Return given what the deck wants to do). It helps against mono-U and mono-B, just making the deck a little worse against control. Not sure if it's worth it, especially since adding all this ...

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That's a good point, but the card is still mostly dead game one. After boarding, DBlade/Downfall/Dreadbore are enough to deal with them if necessary, and I'm still not completely sure if I'd side them in. So I'm still wary of including it in the main.

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