Dies to Removal

Purp

I like it, I would probably switch up the SB though. I want 2x Wear//Tear to deal with hexproof. With 2 Wear and 2 banishing light +4 skullcrack, we have 8 answers to courage. With them jamming 4x mana confluence in their deck, hopefully then dealing atleast 3 damage to themselves and gaining no life really helps us win this matchup. I do like the dragon, however I am not sure it's better than ash zealot or searing blood in the opening weeks of the format ( I want answers to aggro before turn 5).

Purp

Yeah MDU, I agree. The thing is I will be playing in both an IQ (on release weekend) and Open the next weekend, so I was wondering if there is anyway to hedge. I will just need to get lucky with matchups.

@MDU I would like to know your thoughts on the creature base (from the ones I had listed above)

Purp

It makes more sense when a black guy says it.

Purp

I am just at a loss for what we can do to improve hexproof, without hurting other matchups.

Purp

Looking at them, I might want a 3rd Mizzium Mortars to hedge for a rise in possible x/4 creatures or possibly one anger.

Could Boros Reckoner just be better than Mortars in the matchups we want it(also helps with hexproof)?

Purp

I probably don't need 3 Banishing light, but I do like having 1 wear as an instant speed answer to things. Possibly -1 Banishing Light +1 Spark Trooper.

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Purp

[deck]
3 YP$
2 Ash Zealot
4 Chandra's Phoenix

4 Shock
4 Lightning Strike
4 Magma Jet
4 Boros Charm
4 WLH
3 Skullcrack
2 Searing Blood

2 Banishing Light
1 Chained to the Rocks

4 Scared Foundry
4 Temple of Triumph
2 Temple of Silence
2 Temple of Malice
3 Mutavault
1 Mana Conflux (instead of the guildgate, I am adding this simply for another untapped t2 red or and untapped white when I need it)
7 Mountain

SB
2 Chained to the Rocks
1 Banishing Light
2 Assemble the Legion
1 Wear//Tear
1 Skullcrack
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
4 Toil//Trouble
2 Mizzium Mortars
[/deck]

Could easily -1 AZ for +1 FotF. I think I also might find room for +1 Spark Trooper in the board.

Thoughts?

Purp

This doesn't seem bad.

[deck]
3 YP$
1 Ash Zealot
4 Phoenix
[/deck]

Purp

the creature count seems pretty solid.

Purp

I dont know if control is packing 8 orings, probably not. Im just being speculative for all scenarios. Basnishing Light makes SBD value go up imo.

Purp

This deck has done well in 3 online JOU tourneys

[deck]
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Sacred Foundry
16 Mountain
4 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Ash Zealot
4 Young Pyromancer
2 Stormbreath Dragon
4 Lightning Strike
4 Magma Jet
4 Boros Charm
4 Warleader's Helix
4 Skullcrack
2 Aurelia's Fury

4 Burning Earth
4 Anger of the Gods
3 Firedrinker Satyr
1 Glare of Heresy
3 Boros Reckoner
[/deck]

Purp

[deck]
4 YP$
4 Phoenix

4 Shock
2 Searing Blood
1 Flames of the Firebrand
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
4 Boros Charm
3 Skullcrack
4 WLH

2 Chains
1 Banishing Light

3 Mutavault
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Temple of Triumph
2 Temple of Silence
2 Temple of Malice
1 Boros Guilgate / Mana Confluence (thoughts?)
7 Mountain

SB
1 Skullcrack
2 Chains
1 Banishing Light
1 Assemble the Legion
1 Mutavault
1 Chandra, Pyroblaster
2 Hold at Bay (this is possibly an answer to hexproof and other aggro decks)
2 Mizzium Mortars
3 T/T
1 Font of Ire
[/deck]

Brainstorming ideas for IQ this saturday. I'm really at a loss, I feel like I can't improve both the hexproof and control matchup at the same time. I also expect to see more archangel getting played. Im also worried about control players being able to pack up to 8 o rings... is there anything we can do about this?

Purp

I think is Ash is potentially much worse in creature matches when compared to Yp$/SFD though. I'm wondering if skullcrack is better MD than more creatures.

Purp

[deck]
4 YP$
4 Chandra's Phoenix

3 Shock
2 Searing Blood
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
1 FotF
4 Boros Charm
4 Skullcrack
4 WLH

23 land base wiht 8 scry

sb
1 wear tear
3 Mortars
1 Assemble
1 Chandra
1 Banishing Light
4 Toil
2 Spark Trooper
2 Chains[/deck]

We didn't play many SB games, G1s were fine vs BG. Scooze, Golgari Charm and Pharikas Cure were tough out of the sb though.

BR aggro does deal itself a lot of damage. I wonder if it smart to cut down on skullcracks main in favor of shock or SFD. I got an IQ Saturday, possible Super IQ on Sunday I will play in in preparation of SCG Knox on the 10th. Has anyone been testing a lot?

Purp

That's not a bad idea. I did testing tonight of a Burn List vs BR aggro, and let me tell you that BR aggro is NO joke. 8 scrylands does not seem like the way to go early. My removal suite was 3 shock ,2 searing blood ,1 fotf ,2 chain, 1 banishing light.

Purp

BG def has me worried as well... Abrupt Decay deals with both chain and banishing light quite easily, not to mention golgari charm.

Purp

[deck]Red Aggro[/deck]
Creatures
4 Burning Tree Emissary
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Firefist Striker
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Gore-House Chainwalker
4 Mogis's Warhound
4 Prophetic Flamespeaker
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Rubblebelt Maaka

Instants
4 Titan's Strength

Lands
18 Mountain
2 Mutavault
[/deck]
I have like, 2 problems with this and one's not really a problem. Is this good enough with zero reach and as good as prophetic flamespeaker is, is it good enough to not run Chandra's phoenix?[/quote:
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I ran through a gaunlet with this the other night, and man I wish I had shocks at least. Flamespeaker was good but more often than he is easily walled. Without the removals, the white weenie matchup was tough.

Purp

More spark troopers

Purp

Seems good on the play and you land it on t3. Otherwise once two enchantments get on there its pretty bad.

Purp

Is the matchup against hexproof a time when Eidolon of the Great Revel might be good? Early Eidolon plus some instant-speed enchantment removal seems not bad.

t1 or t2 creature into t3 courage looks pretty bad for us if we drop a revel on t2, taking 2 damage for every spell we cast after.

Purp

Safe to say Hexproof will easily jump to a t1 strategy, has me nervous about taking it to an open in week 2 of new meta. 4 Spark Troopers!

Purp

How can we prepare this deck for the guaranteed influx and success of hexproof?

Purp

[deck]
4 YP$
4 Boros Reckoner
3 Chandra's Pheonix
2 Stormbreath Dragons

2 Chandra, Pyromaster

4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
4 Shock
2 Searing Blood
2 Chained to the rocks
2 Warleader's Helix
2 Font of Ire

25 Lands - maybe something like
8 RW Lands
4 Mutavaults
3 Scry Lands
10 Mountain
[/deck]

Purp

Those are two cards that arn't much issue in any G1 matchup.

Purp

It is a 3 mana answer to everything... Chain is a 1 mana answer to creatures, and we are worried about nothing else.

Purp

Why do we need banishing light MD? Chain handles creatures just fine (at 1cmc) and most planeswalkers we ignore...

Purp

Skullcrack MD seems weak especially in the early going of the format. Searing blood will def be better.

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