Dies to Removal

Aodh

Threatens are always good against midrange decks, but with monsters being such a small portion of the meta, it's pretty narrow. If you also plan on being frisky and catching a DD alone, it could be okay. The reason it's not AMAZING in burn is that their big dumb creatures aren't really blocking ours...

Aodh

I think Glare of Heresy is the best sideboard card against UWx because it hits anything they have to threaten our advantage (FSP, exile effects for Phoenix/Chandra, AAoT, BlOb, etc.) definitely the most versatile and you won't be caught with your pants down.

Aodh

Got shit on by burn and UW at TNM while running MBA. I'm likely coming back to this deck. I'll be on 0/4 Phoenix, 0/4 YP$, 0 EotGR.

Aodh

Preboard, I think MBA, MBD (with only one demon), Esper, and the mirror (us vs. rando) are favorable independent of our choice of 2-drop, whereas Monsters, Junk, and Dredge necessitate YP$ and MUD is easier with EotGR.

Aodh

Monsters is not an easy match-up. If they have any Polukranos -> Dragon (esp. with acceleration), then it's very hard to win.

Aodh

Oh, me neither, haha. How does EotGR change the situation?

Aodh

Who's forced to interact with Jace? I almost never do.

Aodh

Right. A Planeswalker that HAS to +1 and keep your 2/1 at bay (as a 1/1) instead of drawing 2 cards is weak. And a 2-mana answer for your 2/1 creature instead of getting back a demon or killing an Assemble is also weak.

Aodh

YP$ is REALLY good against Jace and Golgari Charm...?

Aodh

Why has this forum stagnated? It seems like therems been a lot of conflict,

Aodh

GL at states, FoS!

Aodh

You get to multiFNM?

Aodh

Could something stupid like Br bestow be viable? 12 1-drops, Jester Dog Spiteful Returned, Herald, TS HDF, 11 swamp 5 mountain 4 MC 4 Blood Crypt. 12-12-4 creature curve, 12-12-8-8-4 bestow and creature curve, 16-12-12-8-4 total curve. Seems like it could be super efficient, but super awkward as wel...

Aodh

I'm running B, Br, Bw, or BW aggro at FNM. I'll write a report thenafter. Bg would be kinda' cool for Golgari Charm and Abrupt Decay... Is a 1-of Profit // Loss justifiable in Bw? Could shit on Elspeth, the mirror, YP$ burn?

Aodh

Just beat UW on a mulligab to 4 lol. Keep Sacred Foundry, Boros Charm, Temple of Triumph, and Magma Jet. Win involves main phase Boros Charm to evade counter magic, Trouble for 7, Dreadbore on Archangel of Thune, and Annihilating Fire + Lightning Strike in response to Sphinx's Tegelation.

Aodh

Dictate's awesome but probably not correct. I messed around with Dega no-permanent burn today and I literally one-hit KO'd an Esper and a UW player because of it. Did some work, but probably just overkill. 2-0 Esper, 2-1 UW, 1-2 Bant, 2-0 MBA, 2-1 Bg Devotion, 1-2 Bw Devotion, 2-0 MBD.

Aodh

Red devotion is not weak to blue devotion; it is weak to black devotion, however, and that ALONE is a problem.

Aodh

That's wrong.

Aodh

If I were to make a red and black aggressive deck, this would be it: [deck]Creatures 4 Tormented Hero 4 Rakdos Cackler 4 Gnarled Scarhide 4 Pain Seer 4 Spike Jester 4 Mogis's Marauder 3 Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch Spells 4 Thoughtseize 4 Lightning Strike 4 Dreadbore Land 4 Blood Crypt 4 Mana Confluenc...

Aodh

His mana doesn't agree with the deck.

Aodh

I think Eidolon is more powerful the faster the format is (I.e., best in legacy or modern). Prophetic Flamespeaker's a different discussion, but I don't like him terribly much ATM.

Aodh

I don't think it's good in standard; and even if it was, it wouldn't be good in our deck with 33 3>-mana spells.

Aodh

He'd want 19 for HDF, HoT, MoF if they end up in the list, then we need more lands or some temples. :\

Aodh

Took the deck to FNM last week to a 4-1 4th in standings finish. Beat Bantchant, MBD, lost to MBD, beat Br devotion, MBD. Dat meta.

Aodh

Yeah, we like our opponent's removal to be bad, not really good. If they 2-for-1 us, it's miserable, and if they keep killing our critters and we get stuck with Strengths in hand, we're in trouble.

Aodh

The Karsten article suggests 13 sources for 2-mana spells, and since Spike Jester and Madcap Skills like being cast on-curve, I'd oblige. But yeah, you're right, AT LEAST 3.

Aodh

Needs 5 mountains for your red spells.

Aodh

Devour Flesh, Away, Duress, and Thoughtseize are really powerful against Hexproof.

Aodh

Keen observation, lol. That could certainly be right that we just have too many powerful cards. Master will be better in a monster/aggro metagame. He's fairly weak against UWx and MBD, so I'd be wary to play him ATM. But, we shall see what JOU can bring. Played on Cockatrice some and there are multi...

Aodh

I agree--in the mono-3-drop list--but in the context of lots of bears and weak creatures that want to attack, more seems justifiable. You're Johnny, right?

Aodh

Eh, Mogis is just better as a 1/1 for 1 is pretty bad. @Aodh - I wonder if that could work. My gut reaction is that the curve is too low as the deck has tons of early action as it is. On the other hand, it doe shave bestow. Still, which 3 drop would you cut for it? I think the 3 drop would be bette...

Aodh

I didn't know Brain Maggot cost 2. Nevermind haha. Has anyone been playing a leaner curve with Spiteful Returned? 12 1s, 8 2s, Mogis Marauders + removal's pretty consistent?

Aodh

Has anyone playtested with JOU extensively? Brain Maggot seems good too?

Aodh

That depends on what kind of aggro decks you expect to face... A 2-for-1, 2-for-1 plus 1 dmg to the dome, or 3-for-1 is DEFINITELY better than a 1-for-1 plus 3 dmg to the dome. If you don't expect X/1s, then yeah Searing Blood is king. But if any of the other situations are likely to arise, then Fot...

Aodh

Yeah, I understand that. Does the same paradigm hold on mulligans?

Aodh

General practice is to reserve out scrylands for as long as possible, right? What if we have mulliganned down to a borderline 6 or any 5? Do we jam temples as quickly as possible to strengthen our draws?

Aodh

I've only done one sealed event (RTR); any advice for this release if I can make it?

Aodh

Burning Earth is very strong against 3-color decks. It's not seeing play right now because there's only one of those. After the last two guilds get their scrylands and we have City of Brass, plenty of people will be experimenting with shards. I think BE will be very powerful during weak 1, but its l...

Aodh

Really does need one more land for 2 BBoV, IMO.

Aodh

I didn't necessarily mean YP$ > AZ (although this is what I believe). I was just making note that AZ lists might be the ones posting results because of their popularity over YP$ lists. I'm just glad this deck's still hot.

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