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Tis be what I'm hinting at, yarr.

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[quote="[url=http://diestoremoval.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=150133#p150133:29hb6ajo]magicdownunder » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:07 am[/url:29hb6ajo]":29hb6ajo][quote="[url=http://diestoremoval.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=150116#p150116:29hb6ajo]zemanjaski » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:00 am[/url:29hb...

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I'm beginning to think that Chandra really doesn't do anything in this deck. Sure, exiling an extra card every turn is an extremely powerful ability, but between all the burn and Chandra's Phoenix this deck has a ton of reach already. I think including Chandra is a case in diminishing returns. We'r...

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Build your deck with enough creatures so that Chandra isn't a 4 CC Goblin Fireslinger and you can do basically whatever you like.

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It sounds like the GP had almost no good esper showings so maybe he made a correct meta call but his list seems really bad to me too. The 8-10 dead cards vs control seems painful. I assume he planned on punting game 1 or scrying away as many dead cards as possible. With his suite of 9 permanents, 4 ...

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I'm still of the firm opinion Chandra isn't good unless you have about 20 creatures to support her. First card I pulled out of the burn list. I'm liking toil // trouble a lot more than others, I guess.

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I am currently running this PyroBurn list. Started with MDU's list and tweaked a bit :) Not sure where it belongs so I'm putting it up on both threads to be on the safe side :) Thoughts - feedback most welcome :) - Helix is great, 3 is enough, 2 would most likely be fine. - Skullcrack is good but c...

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Here are some games running PyroBurn/Boros Burn:

Boros Burn Experiment (2-Man) + Commentary: G1 vs Gr Devotion

Ahaha, "FUK YOUR MOTHER" was priceless

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I get a lot of rage quit/kick on cockatrice but so far, in paper people were polite as I beat them to death with elementals. Very strange

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Glad you proved me wrong. For a minute there, it sounded like you were changing like 10 cards, heh.

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I think I'm going to try this out at FNM tonight and I might run it at my GPT tomorrow. I'm running this: with some changes. First off, I'm taking out a Shock for a land (so carrying over the 3/1 Shock/Flames split from PyroWhite). I like having 22 for a deck that would (ideally) like to hit 3-4 ma...

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No reckoners sideboard if you're not running mutavaults seems like a mistake.

If you're already going to run toil//trouble, you should consider bringing it into your midrange matchups as well, at least on the play. The 6 to the face tends to start things off nicely.

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High School of the Damned, or HOTD. The anime about huge tits, big guns, and zombies. There is a scene where one character shoots a .50cal around the huge heaving breasts of another to cap a zombie - like over one breast, bounce, under the other, dead zombie. Sometimes I just need that HOTD inside ...

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Also Satyr and Boros charm break through walls.

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Looks fairly solid but yeah, a mostly control meta is not a great place to bring a devotion deck.

About Blind Obedience, if you're talking about bringing in 3 and having it mana sink, you probably need to go to 22 lands. I usually don't have mana floating at least.

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I am very interested to see your match report after

I'll be running my devo red deck for the last time this saturday then

I just got invited to go to a bikini restaraunt with the wife so...cya!

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Why do we care about opponent's haste dudes?

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@Tyreal, I'm sure you can trade her away just as easily. I did the same thing with the angers. Edit: Or hang onto her. Each varient is a meta call so being able to flip inbetween forms is valuable and they share similar card pools. Snagging a second Chandra and a couple mutavaults can just be a lon...

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Hey, Roy came around in the RDW thread there.

You guys aren't uh, kidnapping people and turning them into Stepford Mages, are you?

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Noted

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I've had some iffy draws.

I had a couple draws of on the draw that I kept:

1 Temple of Triumph
1 Jet
1-2 shock
3-4 Glork

23% chance of missing the 2nd drop on that. Drops to 14% if you're willing to wait until turn 3 because you have a shock.
38% of flunking on the play so...yeah, not doing that.

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Back to this build, are you still running the extra mountain? I haven't had it bite me yet casting cackler on 13 first turn lands although I've had plenty of games where my first 2 lands come into play tapped. Not that it usually matters. Hitting land 3, assuming 1 scry, is a 1 in 4 vs 1 in 5 betwee...

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I am very interested to see your match report after :D I'll be running my devo red deck for the last time this saturday then :) I did decent with it as a 24 land 2 gauntlet version but last week I scrubbed out when I tried to mainboard skullcrack without having the Troubles. Z, my experience too. L...

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We all came from orgasms

Oh god, it's everywhere!

I wonder if that tantric shit would save on condoms?

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I'm waiting on the following to come in the mail before I can build either list that I want to make toils temple of silence cackler satyr So yeah, can't build either version I want to so I'm going with a "tuned" version of the one I brought to states at the start of the season. To answer d...

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Right, it's why it has a stronger mono blue matchup.

"Oh, you're playing a bunch of dudes, drawing cards, whatever? You just dropped a master of waves? That's cool bro and I'm going to let you finish but take 6 at the end of your turn and another 6 on mine."

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Be careful on your math with this one when playing. It's not near as grindy as Walter White so it's even more prone to error.

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When you try it, you'll see what I mean. She's slow and squishy here. Now that said, since I'm waiting on all the key pieces for any of the betterpyro varient builds, I'm going to take this to FNM tomorrow as last hurrah. [deck] 4 ash zealot 4 chandra's phoenix 3 young pyromancer 4 shock 4 lightning...

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Read earlier in the thread, I posted my reasons. She's not good here.

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I can squeeze it up to 2 if I do this: [deck]4 Chandra's Phoenix 4 Rakdos Cackler 1 Young Pyromancer 1 Firedrinker Satyr 4 Chained to the Rocks 4 Boros Charm 4 Lightning Strike 4 Magma Jet 4 Shock 4 Skullcrack 3 Warleader's Helix 2 Toil // Trouble 9 Mountain 4 Sacred Foundry 4 Temple of Silence 4 Te...

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Yep, been testing again. Cutting Anger. It's not that it's bad...it's just not good enough? It kills Carytids and has a real chance of killing MoW with skullcracks so there is that. But mostly I'd be afraid of it being a dead card or nuking my own guys. I know one game it saved my bacon. All the oth...

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Imo: shocks > fetch lands > checks > pain lands > zendikar man lands > scry lands. Not in standard, not even close. How would you rank them? Fetches have nothing major going for them without Tarmogoyf and friends. Check/pain lands only matter when you're 3-4 colors because you're grabbing the best ...

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I'm not keen on Assemble vs esper since they have Jace and DSphere.

But yeah, 12 4 CMC spells on 21 lands? Durdling is not what you want to do vs them.

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Also Chandra is terrible and YP is legacy only. You're doing it wrong. YP is awesome with Purphoros. The hell were we all talking about again? It would take a weird all in storm type build for me want to try spark jolt. I did have fun times with Flamespeaker Adept in the prerelease. And then I just...

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If your chance of drawing multiple 4's is low? Not really that important you hit the land early. It's why a single dragon on 22 lands isn't a big deal because if it is in your opening hand, you still have a number of playable cards. If your chance of having your starting hand clogged with multiple 4...

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I was quite happy to hear they were announced but I was using guildgates last season so I was already quite aware how to play/build around tapped lands.

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RE: scylands. I think 90% of people who don't like them haven't played enough with them. The other 10% are just terrible. "Man, scry 1 on a guildgate?! That's a shitty rare" :rofl: Falling in the black hole of trying to figure out mathimatically how valuable those scrylands are is the ugl...

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This is ugly math, but it's what I got so someone else can make a judgment call. 90% chance to hit one scry card giving 11 draws by turn 4. This gives 60% chance you hit land 4. 60% chance to hit two scry / 66% chance to hit turn 4. 33% chance to hit three scry / 75% chance to hit turn 4. For point ...

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@ Narc - Yes, my experience is scrying until I'm safely set up on either lands or spells and then riding it out. My concern is that loaded up on too much 4+ spells, you can be durdling with nothing in hand to safely cast. Particularly post board vs something like Esper? You're presumably dropping sh...

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What does your creature/land package look like? My problem with her is I was loading up too heavy on four drops post board, her +1 didn't represent that much damage without the 20 creature suite, and it was more difficult to protect her.

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