Dies to Removal

Flame Rift is the correct answer...

Suppose you see plains mother of runes, do you kill that on sight SHOOT HER...

Sometimes they get to cheat it in. He shouldn't live long enough to do much with it. Every time I see a Stoneforge Mystic, I hear "SHOOT HER!" in my head...

How is your opponent even alive to cast Batterskull. much less attack with it...

Why deal 3 damage when you can deal four? And it's not targeted...

Cool. I wonder if my foreign Stronghold bridges are worth more. Hell, if anyone is playing with fetches, isn't a set of Tarns alone pushing close to $400? I don't even want to know what my 75 is worth. I'd be too tempted to double sleeve it or something...

Really? I own 7...

Chains are about $14 in paper, last I checked. Overall, not that pricey in the overall scheme of things. You can probably build a fetchless version for about a hundred bucks methinks...

@Purp, Blak and Spawn: If your a Pauper, Standard and Modern burn player would getting into Leg. burn be difficult? Not at all. Obviously, the deck wouldn't play any fetches, but it'd still work. I think the only "expensive" cards would be Goblin Guide and Chain Lightning, right...

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It's been awhile since I've played against Dredge. But sometimes you don't even get a chance to do that...

To be fair, the creatures aren't good in the Dredge matchup and Guide is pretty terrible against Elves. But the Lavamancer does do some work versus Elves. Dredge is just all around bad for burn anyway. Game 1, we're a huge dog and Game 2 isn't much better unless were using a ton of hate. With Elves, you pretty much just try to hide behind a bridge and point everything to the face, trying to kill them before they can kill you. All of this just goes to show how terrible Burn is vs Combo decks, unfortunately...

I think that's a terrible idea...

Fucking troll. And that's Mr. Troll to you good sir. With a response like that, I find myself unable to hate you. Well played, Mr. Troll. Well played...

Fucking troll...

Now you're learning, Purp. ;) It's all about proper metagaming in Legacy if you want to pilot Burn correctly. :smileup...

:hug...

Which meta? My local meta? A meta for an SCG event in and around Atlanta (which would cover the Southeast U.S)? First and foremost, you should always account for your local meta. Legacy is weird. You actually have to research your metagame. If I was playing in my "backyard," I'd check and see what people are playing. If I was traveling about, I'd do my best to find out what the preference is for an particular area (for example, from what I've read, Southwest California is Combo heavy, so I'd probably bring something to fight Combo if I played in a big tournament down there). Right now, in my area, Combo is huge. For realz. Why do you guys not see me posting Legacy reports with Burn? For one, the hardcore Legacy tournaments is a drive since the scene is in Tampa and I play in Pinellas County. Two, the meta is all Human Reanimator, TES, ANT, Belcher, Show and Tell, MUD, Burn, and Delver. Aside from facing the Delver player (or Merfolk, since I play Lavamancer), I don't want to play against any of those decks. Why? Cuz I'll get crushed! It's just not profitable. But if I had to go in there and play, I'd go in packing this: [deck] Creatures 8 4 Goblin Guide 4 Grim Lavamancer Enchantment 3 3 Sulfuric Vortex Burn 28 4 Lava Spike 4 Rift Bolt 4 Chain Lightning 4 Lightning Bolt 4 Flame Rift 4 Price of Progress 4 Fireblast Land 21 3 Wooded Foothills 3 Bloodstained Mire 3 Arid Mesa 3 Scalding Tarn 9 Mountain Sideboard 15 3 Faerie Macabre 3 Mindbreak Trap 3 Ensaring Bridge 3 Searing Blaze 3 Smash to Smithereens[/deck] Since all kinds of Combo are available in my area, I need to pack "Stack Hate," Graveyard hate, and Big Creature Hate. Aside from that, I need to pack hate from creatures and also Artifacts, like in the MUD matchup. It's tough. Like I said, it's not profitable to play Burn in my area right now, but the deck is so good that it can still steal some wins. There's just a right time to play and a wrong time to play it. Figuring out your window is your key to success with the deck...

Getting rid of Flame Rift is crazy talk. I've been playing Legacy Burn for years. Combo is Burn's worst match-up. Flame Rift is how you race the combo decks. Against creature decks, its value can vary so it's usually the first to go (along with Goblin Guide). But the beauty of facing creature decks is that they're fair decks (I use fair loosely since we're still talking Legacy, but you get the idea), and Burn does pretty well against the fair decks. In fact, when the majority of the meta is fair decks, bring Burn. When the majority of the meta is Combo, switch to something else until Combo begins to get hated out and the fair decks start to return. Burn isn't just called one of the best metagame deck in Legacy for no reason. When P-Sulli won that SCG Open, you know what the big decks were at the time? Maverick (now it's all but extinct), Deathblade, RUG Delver, Miracles/Counterbalance, Show and Tell, and TES. The majority of the decks were fair and Combo was just beginning to take over (where it sorta is now). P-Sulli shoved the Bridge in for Show and Tell and Mindbreak Trap for TES. The Shusher was to get around Counterbalance locks (and Chalice of the Void), and the Searing Blaze was for, you guessed it, the abundance of fair decks...