Dies to Removal

Wraith223

The lack of a hide ability makes me wonder what the hell Wraith is doing, along with his poor timing. Why not counter immediately? If he gets me lynched, I'll flip survivor and he'll get lynched the following day for lying, which seems like an exceedingly poor play and completely against his stated...

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ham is definitely not mafia. Not a chance. His Survivor abilities are very powerful and his ability to hide makes him an unlikely target for basically everyone now that he's claimed it. It's possible that he's a serial killer given his claimed abilities and actions so far this game. However, I thin...

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DK: Stop trying to suicide, we need to clear up this Wraith counterclaim nonsense. Wraith: You claim survivor, where's your hide ability? Why didn't you target me last night to prove your counter-claim? If you disabled me, I'm free to be investigated tonight. Come at me, bros. Red was still in my s...

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Edit "enemy faction"

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Like I started this day out: I fully expect you guys to lynch me now. All rational and obvious evidence points to me as the scum team. 1. There should only be one scum left. 2. No night kill happened. 3. I'm the number 1 scum suspect from yesterday. 4. I claimed that I was disabled. 5. The disabler...

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Yes, I waited to counter claim and glad I did. It was alluded to in day 1 that I had issue with his claim. I also pm'd the mod to disable ham. @DK, ham bombed himself and survived! :argh: don't tell me about probabilities. @ham, it makes no sense to have 2 self aligned players and a huge list of oth...

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If 2 vigilantes shot 2 town players, scum would be heavily over favored to win. I doubt there are 2 vigilantes. I would have believed you if you only claimed the hide ability.

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I submitted my two choices as Scum/Vigilante because "I want to be able to kill someone at night, so no matter what you chose, I get that." The role PM said I was "Town Two-Shot Vigilante" in bold green font. At Night I may kill another player and I can only use it twice. We can...

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Okay, everyone just slow down here for a sec. Wraith, Dechs, Red and hamfactorial . I want each of you to fully paraphrase your role PM's. Give us what two options you gave Pie, which he chose, and what your actual role name is (this you can quote). The only other information I want is details on h...

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I used 2 abilities in game that might lynch scum. I basically cleared red, counter claimed ham, and locked down my scum pick. Not a bad for day 2. Also, I did not pick town and serial killer. I choose self aligned and serial killer. Not a word from pie was given to change it. How many of you Idgets ...

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Um, no. Serial Killer is not an alignment. It's also not an ability (you couldn't be a Town Serial Killer). Like hammy, Pie made me change my choices. It was not a joke, you're lying, please hang, etc. Ok. Believe what you want. Ehhh, I haven't been lynched yet in a game besides the theros game, bu...

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I also chose serial killer as my alignment. I also was told that's impossible (and changed it to self-aligned). You, apparently, weren't told that, therefore your chosen ability/alignment is a lie. I did not get told that and was just given changeling. :shrug: I think he may have told you that as a...

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Whistle blowers always get lynched.

Well I am targeting ham with my new cool ability then.

When I role my claimed alignment and ability; you guys Lynch ham cause he is scum.

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@stardust, do you think more than one self aligned faction in this game is possible? I'm going to wait for those full claims before I talk about anything else, but this I'll answer. Two survivors could be possible in a 9 player game, but it seems unlikely. A 7 player game would normally be balanced...

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Okay, everyone just slow down here for a sec. Wraith, Dechs, Red and hamfactorial . I want each of you to fully paraphrase your role PM's. Give us what two options you gave Pie, which he chose, and what your actual role name is (this you can quote). The only other information I want is details on h...

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Wraith, what's your alignment? Self aligned. Now that a scum got lynched, I think town is favored to win. Ham should be cased like stardust did cause I really think he falsely claiming. He used neutral as an alignment but I think it is a play of words. I win when any faction wins. His wording is wr...

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vote wraith

anti-town. kill it with fire.

Not anti town. You let ham go even though he claimed a non town faction. I don't care if you vote me, but ham is claiming a faction that I hold. I am willing to risk the chance of being lynched to nail possible scum.

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@DK, I am not neutral. I am self aligned and win when any faction wins if still alive. You cannot be neutral and vote. That makes no sense. I was going to let this go and fly quietly, but the chance that ham is scum is very high in my opinion. There is quite a long list of factions in this game, thu...

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Wraith, what's your alignment? Self aligned. Now that a scum got lynched, I think town is favored to win. Ham should be cased like stardust did cause I really think he falsely claiming. He used neutral as an alignment but I think it is a play of words. I win when any faction wins. His wording is wr...

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I don't know if I believe DK, but if red did prevent DK; it was true. I don't recall seeing the word "Roleblock" in his ability wording. DK fast voting LMD seems defensive as he cannot confirm his ability. I think ham should be looked at as I think he is lieing on his alignment. How many s...

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Technically speaking, yes - I'm the one who disabled you. The funny thing is that you caught me for the wrong reasons - I'm not going to quote my PM, but the role is worded in a way that forces the player that uses it to submit the action during the day, so the fact that you received the PM from Pi...

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making a big deal of things I find scummy is the job of a towns right? Sure. It's not a bad thing, though it's not necessarily townie either. Scum make a big deal of things too, though often in different ways. How you went about pushing back at me was a big factor in me eventually calling you town....

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Edit, the sentences with smileys should be bolded and the word "towns" should be "towny".

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'Cause that totally worked to keep you quiet, right? I think I know you well enough to know exactly what I was getting into when I voted you without giving a reason. Creating something big enough to get everyone discussing it was the reason I postponed giving those reasons in the first place (thoug...

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Thanks Red. If it came to deadline, I take it you'd be willing to lynch either Kaze or Wraith? Right now I'd probably go for Kaze. I don't know of the "personal reason" ham mentioned, he suddenly appeared to be not involved with the game at all then disappeared, and that just doesn't mix ...

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When some one makes a challenge that threatens you but does not go through with it to get forced silence; always call that challenge. It is the same rational for folks who are black mailed. The black mailer has more to risk in getting caught by police (town in this instance) that the person getting ...

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At the bottom of your kaze case, you say DK as scum more so than Kaze. Why waste the time to discuss the Kaze case then still push DK. Makes no sense when you voted Kaze. Later you pick up the torch for DK again. The flip flop is what looks bad. You did say you could make a case on me if you wanted ...

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It's 15.30 and I'm working, though... Should not take that long between lap dances. :scared: Just messing with you. Only played two games kaze and I never really grasped his character in those games. He was more playful in those games or posted material that was just weird (durp mafia). Not sure wh...

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I also asked Wraith to claim he had roleblocked our night kill target rather than LMD. Then we could have had some more crap on his pile. Instead, kind of like the randomization thing, he gave it away. Still worked and the crazy wraith thing allowed the idea to float into the abyss. So the bomb hit...

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I'm done. I fucked up enough. I'm going to stop talking. Just hang me already so I can flip town and you guys hang Stardust tomorrow. Don't give up. Answer our questions and state your case on kaze and stardust of why they are town and scum. Pro and con list for example. I find it weird that stardu...

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Edit, "would you lynch you"

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I get it. You're afraid that I am a cop and that I'm going to investigate you tonight. Fine. Hang me. When I flip town, you guys need to hang Scumdust. Little over the top there, and town would not get upset at an investigation. Can you explain more in depth now that you see stardusts opinion with ...

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ask me anything. I will ask you three things. Can you explain that theory? I'm not convinced Wraith is town, but he's certainly leaning that way. I don't see how DK's quote there implies he knows who's town. Reads to me that he's just doubting that ham slipped at all (though I have no idea why he'd...

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After my first game as scum, do you think I would be dumb enough to pick scum in the next game? :rolleyes: :rofl: This is the worst defense I have ever heard. What? When I made my request to the Mod; it crossed my mind that it would be an issue in this game. So lets play a game. Can you guess what ...

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:argh: NOU! I'm not scum, and I know Red's not on my team because reasons. elaborate nah unvote vote hamfactorial I don't buy it. If he was scum, there's no way he'd be dumb enough to slip like this. You can't even say WIFOM to it, because it's a terrible gambit. Unvote don't talk to me about peopl...

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I have a hard time lying and being lied to, and the Jack fallout demoralized me. I knew the LMD vote was bad, but couldn't sort out Red and just wanted the game to be over. I really wanted to vote DK but going NL would just drag it out more. Always trust your gut. My first mafia game was a disaster...

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Never playing mafia again etc

I do demand that you play my mafia game though. IT WILL BE AWSOME! Red says I am crazy. Imagine a game created by that crazy.

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Apologies for my terrible reads. I'm very impressed with the amount of work the scumteam put in. Wraith was consistently scumhunting genuinely and Dechs was very strong for a first time player. Does anyone have any advice on my play? I got bored with this game and did not reread, which I think led ...

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Yes, where is the Spec sheet! That should be hilarious! Especially when I admit to the possibility of mail being messed with (randomized, never used this word as it was to specific and would raise suspicion). Poor Jack. When I first saw Ham go wild with the mail on Jack, I just stared at the compute...

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so I don't think I ever explained I had suspicions of Red being scum when I saw he mailed imopen, who died, so I lied and said I mailed imopen to try and bait out an "oh, I mailed him too" from Red. I never actually mailed him. also, {G}{G}, tap, is the ability of the magic card, Tracker....

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