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Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:20 am**

MBC with discard? What good discard is there?

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:31 am**

I'd go at least R/b if you're going the discard route, with Sire of Insanity and Rakdos's Return. And that's still sketchy at best.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:34 am**

@ Fate: BOROS CHARM.

It's the best utility spell in naya in my opinion and good in all your non-agro matchups out of the board(I'd even main a couple). You haven't lived till you boros charmed a ghor-clan bloodrushed creature.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:23 pm**

MBC with discard? What good discard is there?

Exactly. If they had indeed reprinted Thoughseize and maybe Despise there would be options. But Duress + AfB--even with Lifebane Zombie--isn't worth the effort without something like Surgical Extraction available to turn it into deck destruction.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:41 pm**

Because Occam's razor.

And that mother fucker won't hesitate to cut you.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:21 pm**

Anyone remember Shrieking Affliction deck that was played on first SCG after RtR came out?

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:34 pm**

Whoops! Modern Metagame attack angles, sorry guys. Modern Meta. We were looking at MBC in Standard cuz its a favorite archetype for a couple guys, but like you said the cards are not there. We don't have much Modern experience yet so we were just looking at lists/results and trying to figure out something to brew for an upcoming tourney. I'm going to be playing redsomethingofawesome.deck so I demand they keep outta the red cards in the binder

Br with Inquisition and Thoughtsieze doomblade lifebane zombie slaughter games shrieking affliction?

Also MBC Pauper? REDONK!

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:34 pm**

There's a funny Modern brew on MTGS called 8rack that runs a bunch of cheap discard and 4 Rack / 4 Shrieking Affliction. 10/10 for tilt potential.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:02 pm**

There's a funny Modern brew on MTGS called 8rack that runs a bunch of cheap discard and 4 Rack / 4 Shrieking Affliction. 10/10 for tilt potential.

What a totally nasty deck!!! What do you suggest doing to deal with Leyline of Sanctity?

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:19 pm**

Counter it with Force of Will

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:34 pm**

There's a funny Modern brew on MTGS called 8rack that runs a bunch of cheap discard and 4 Rack / 4 Shrieking Affliction. 10/10 for tilt potential.
What a totally nasty deck!!! What do you suggest doing to deal with Leyline of Sanctity?

I thought about running 8 rack as my first modern deck before settling on AIR, but my plan on hedging against Leyline was to use global effects. Delirium Skeins, Rotting Rats, Smallpox, etc all work well, and if you run cards that like being in the graveyard like Hakkon, Gravecrawler, Raven's
Crime, etc you suddenly don't care about discarding yourself.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:44 pm**

Leyline isn't a card I'm overly scared of in Modern. It's so easy to splash green for a naturalize effect, and the decks that don't care about the battlefield (burn, hand control, etc) usually have a main/side way to lock creatures out.

In my burn deck I have 3 Ensnaring Bridge and 2 copies of Hide // Seek as an escape valve against enchantments, tricky artifacts or the hexproof lifegain durdles.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:23 pm**

Good to know; thanks gentlemen! I won't be running out and buying a playset of Thoughtseize anytime soon, but if it does get reprinted in Theros block, I'll likely put it together. As it is now I struggle to find time to even play Standard, so no rush...

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:03 pm**

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/show ... post743839

Mod on MTGTheSource gives example of proper trolling etiquette.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:10 pm**

@ Fate: BOROS CHARM.

It's the best utility spell in naya in my opinion and good in all your non-agro matchups out of the board(I'd even main a couple). You haven't lived till you boros charmed a ghor-clan bloodrushed creature.

yeah my thinking was that gcr+boros charm was too cute for a midrage deck and easily disruprted, but fuck it I'm going all in next time.

power is power, and some decks need to be bursted like bw angel post catching on here and junk rites

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:11 pm**

That link is broken worse than Kamahl's card analysis.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:07 pm**

T-minus 55 minutes until my weekend. I've got some drinking and smoking planned for tonight. And then some Black Ops II. I'm positive that the Black Ops community appreciates my drunk gaming sessions.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:11 pm**

The ten-year-olds that make up the Black Ops community most likely are too busy calling you an lolfagot to care.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:15 pm**

Here is what I will be running at FNM tonight. Made some significant changes to what I threw together. Chandra+Young Pyromancer+Gutter Snipe are too good together. This is, of course, based on cards I have available now. Will probably upgrade the spells soon.

[deck]Land 24
24 Mountain

Creatures 12
4 Young Pyromancer
4 Gutter Snipe
4 Ogre Battledriver

Planeswalkers
2 Chandra, Pyromaster

Spells 22
4 Mugging
4 Pillar of Flame
4 Shock
4 Searing Spear
4 Brimstone Volley
2 Flames of the Firebrand

Sideboard 15
4 Chandra's Phoenix
2 Flames of the Firebrand
3 Thunderbolt
3 Traitorous Blood
3 Volcanic Strength[/deck]

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:17 pm**

The ten-year-olds that make up the Black Ops community most likely are too busy calling you an lolfagot to care.

I'm sure. Some people think playing Black Ops is always like those funny videos on You Tube. It's most definitely not. So I tend to mute everyone. I just like doing silly shit online when I'm smashed. If someone really wants to tell me off, they can always message me.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:37 am**

[deck]2 Sensory Deprivation
2 Staff of the Mind Magus
1 Messenger Drake
1 Armored Cancrix
1 Air Servant
1 Water Servant
2 Essence Scatter
1 Negate
2 Archaeomancer
1 Nephalia Seakite
1 Zephyr Charge
1 Dismiss into Dream
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Divination
1 Trained Condor
1 Scroll Thief
1 Frost Breath
1 Disperse
1 Wall of Frost
17 Island[/deck]

Trolling ass draft deck. Why kill people when you can just gain millions of life with staff of the magus and elixir of mortality and stall till you zephyr charge+Dismiss into dream lock them out of the game. Too bad this deck didn't have claustrophobia's or an Opportunity.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:52 am**

holy shit that looks annoying as hell.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:07 am**

Yeah, regrettably Sam Black wrote an article this week telling the world point-blank that blue is totally dominant in M14 draft. Cherry-picking blue and Elixir are going to get tougher as the word spreads and people start viewing Opportunity as a wincon.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:49 am**

Yeah, regrettably Sam Black wrote an article this week telling the world point-blank that blue is totally dominant in M14 draft. Cherry-picking blue and Elixir are going to get tougher as the word spreads and people start viewing Opportunity as a wincon.

Glad it wasn't just me. Every time I'd open a sealed pool, blue looked way better than all the other colours. Even though I hate blue, I found myself having to play it.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:42 am**

I knew blue was BY FAR the deepest cooler in the set, I just didn't know about the mono-blue deck as I'm not ashamed to admit that spotting things like Staff of the Mind Magus is outside of my set evaluation range.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:49 am**

The feel when you log onto MODO for the first time in three weeks to see if you can afford new cards and realise you have 190 tickets sitting around.

[/brags]

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:15 pm**

Yeah, regrettably Sam Black wrote an article this week telling the world point-blank that blue is totally dominant in M14 draft. Cherry-picking blue and Elixir are going to get tougher as the word spreads and people start viewing Opportunity as a wincon.

And not only is it the best color, it also has all of the best support cards too. Zephyr Charge is an insane card in basically any deck that plays creatures too, and it's unfortunate that I won't be able to wheel multiples anymore for my GU beats decks where once you Opportunity the party doesn't stop.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:48 pm**

Good to know; thanks gentlemen! I won't be running out and buying a playset of Thoughtseize anytime soon, but if it does get reprinted in Theros block, I'll likely put it together. As it is now I struggle to find time to even play Standard, so no rush...

Also Thoughtseize isn't necessary in MBC in Modern. This guy has been consistently top8'ing Modern events on MODO playing MBC and his list just plays Inquisition of Kozilek and some Duress in the sideboard.

And sweet-ass cards like Vatmother and Runechanter's Pike. It's like this dude read my MBC primer back on MTGS and decided to improvise.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:50 pm**

photo - check out this decklist. It's about as close to Rakdos control as you'll find except it's still midrange. Top 4 in a recent premier.

http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=5364&d=230948

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:50 pm**

Good to know; thanks gentlemen! I won't be running out and buying a playset of Thoughtseize anytime soon, but if it does get reprinted in Theros block, I'll likely put it together. As it is now I struggle to find time to even play Standard, so no rush...
Also Thoughtseize isn't necessary in MBC in Modern. This guy has been consistently top8'ing Modern events on MODO playing MBC and his list just plays Inquisition of Kozilek and some Duress in the sideboard.

And sweet-ass cards like Vatmother
and Runechanter's Pike. It's like this dude read my MBC primer back on MTGS and decided to improvise.

I think the only expensive cards in the deck are the Urborg and the IoK.

I must build this deck.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:36 pm**

Well, definitely had my wallet stolen while waiting in line at Chick'fil'a this morning. They caught the guy on the security cameras but that doesn't really mean shit. At least they still let me have the food I ordered as a way to show pity to my relenting soul.

So now my grand scheme to buy a bunch of tix and play MODO is fucking out the window.

Fucking fuck.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:00 pm**

Well, definitely had my wallet stolen while waiting in line at Chick'fil'a this morning. They caught the guy on the security cameras but that doesn't really mean shit. At least they still let me have the food I ordered as a way to show pity to my relenting soul.

So now my grand scheme to buy a bunch of tix and play MODO is fucking out the window.

Fucking fuck.

wow that sucks. Were you pick-pocketed, or did he hold you up in line somehow? That's crazy, sorry to hear it man.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:50 pm**

photo - check out this decklist. It's about as close to Rakdos control as you'll find except it's still midrange. Top 4 in a recent premier.

http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=5364&d=230948

That's RakHammer! Actually, the original RakHammer that I believe ham gets the credit for predated Reckoner, but same basic principles. Thanks for the link, Val.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:57 pm**

Well, definitely had my wallet stolen while waiting in line at Chick'fil'a this morning. They caught the guy on the security cameras but that doesn't really mean shit. At least they still let me have the food I ordered as a way to show pity to my relenting soul.

So now my grand scheme to buy a bunch of tix and play MODO is fucking out the window.

Fucking fuck.

Alex that SUCKS. I'm so sorry to hear that man...been there (and anyone who wants to laugh at my Jack Skellington chain wallet is welcome to, but it stays in my damn pocket).

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:37 pm**

Well, definitely had my wallet stolen while waiting in line at Chick'fil'a this morning. They caught the guy on the security cameras but that doesn't really mean shit. At least they still let me have the food I ordered as a way to show pity to my relenting soul.

So now my grand scheme to buy a bunch of tix and play MODO is fucking out the window.

Fucking fuck.
wow that sucks. Were you pick-pocketed, or did he hold you up in line somehow? That's crazy, sorry to hear it man.

It's been kind of chilly/rainy here the last few days, so I've been
wearing my jacket. My jacket that happens to be a 1920s trench made of genuine leather, worth about $600~. Guy comes up to me, yanks my coat off of my shoulder (I was carrying it over my shoulder) and runs out the door. Had my wallet in the breast pocket.

I'm not as upset about the jacket as much as I am at the fact that I now have to replace everything in my wallet. License, debit, credit, etc. It's such a long, irritating hassle to replace these things.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:39 pm**

PS: He would have gotten my phone too, but it fell out of the pocket as he ran out the door. So now I've got a nice busted screen instead.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:15 pm**

Damn. I feel bad for you, Alex.
On the other hand, I managed to get part-time job, writing game previews for biggest polish gaming magazine. Sorry, it's just... I'm happy about the stuff. Not a goldmine of cash, but fine thing to do in free time.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:24 pm**

Well, definitely had my wallet stolen while waiting in line at Chick'fil'a this morning. They caught the guy on the security cameras but that doesn't really mean shit. At least they still let me have the food I ordered as a way to show pity to my relenting soul.

So now my grand scheme to buy a bunch of tix and play MODO is fucking out the window.

Fucking fuck.

I guess they found out you were Super Gay and the fine people of that Conservative Christian establishment decided to teach you a lesson.

Nah, that actually is pretty lame. Sorry to hear it.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:01 pm**

Whoops! Modern Metagame attack angles, sorry guys. Modern Meta. We were looking at MBC in Standard cuz its a favorite archetype for a couple guys, but like you said the cards are not there. We don't have much Modern experience yet so we were just looking at lists/results and trying to figure out something to brew for an upcoming tourney. I'm going to be playing redsomethingofawesome.deck so I demand they keep outta the red cards in the binder Br with Inquisition and Thoughtsieze doomblade lifebane zombie slaughter games shrieking affliction?

Also MBC Pauper? REDONK!

I ran something like this when I played MBC in Modern some time ago:
[DECK]Lands
12 Swamp
4 Tectonic
Edge
4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 Marsh Flats
3 Verdant Catacombs

Spells
4 Thoughtsieze
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Doom Blade
2 Sudden Death
1 Beseech the Queen
4 Damnation
2 Tendrils of Corruption
2 Raven's Crime

Enchantments
3 Phyrexian Arena

Planeswalkers
4 Liliana of the Veil

Artifacts
1 Crucible of Worlds

Creatures
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir [/DECK]
The list is a bit dated, but it did some decent work.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:05 pm**

Well, definitely had my wallet stolen while waiting in line at Chick'fil'a this morning. They caught the guy on the security cameras but that doesn't really mean shit. At least they still let me have the food I ordered as a way to show pity to my relenting soul.

So now my grand scheme to buy a bunch of tix and play MODO is fucking out the window.

Fucking fuck.
I guess they found out you were Super Gay and the fine people of that Conservative Christian establishment decided to teach you a lesson.

Nah, that actually is pretty lame. Sorry to hear it.[/quote:
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