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Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:33 am**

im really liking uwr twin right now in modern. Deck is fun.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:39 am**

So, any speculation on sweepers to deal with the hexproof plant? Or are we looking at combat tricks to kill the wretched things?

That thing is going to make life miserable for a while.

Well Reckoner, Pyromancer, and Phoenix don't bat an eyelid. Think about it as a Farseek that gets to block once or twice. It obviously has more impact than that, but that is a reasonable simplification until we actually start testing. Any sweeper you play is going to kill your guys as well. Go over it or around it.

(And if they bestow it with something, you're probably winning anyway

)

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:43 am**

I plan on killing it with an overloaded mortars, along with everything else they have in play.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:44 am**

It's a bad card, but Glaring Spotlight is an effective way of dealing with the drooly hexproof strategies. I'd rather include 1-2 "bad" cards in the sideboard that make a nightmare matchup winnable than try to shoehorn in sub-par burn/sweepers that hurt me in other matchups.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:50 am**

I mean, I guess red Plague Wind for 6 is good....

Good point, though Mortars will probably still be in the side, yea?

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:57 am**

Good call Ham; if Hexproof becomes a big thing that's a fine answer.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:58 am**

So, any speculation on sweepers to deal with the hexproof plant? Or are we looking at combat tricks to kill the wretched things?

That thing is going to make life miserable for a while.
"Normal" red sweeps in recent sets have been 2 damage across the board...doesn't kill it unless you're casting it after combat. Same thing with Electrickery...If they put it in front of Zealot you can sting it afterwards. I would not hold my breath for a >2 red sweep with Bonfire just now leaving the format, regrettably...for all we will be cheering the exit of Swagtusk, others will throw
parties for Bonfire's passing.

Not unless we get something like Slagstorm.

It would fit thematically with Purphoros.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:00 am**

Dear god reprint Slagstorm.

WOULD PLAY.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:01 am**

Strictly better than Cancel, amirite?

EDIT: somehow a page happened while I wasn't looking.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:01 am**

"Oh darn my Reckoner dies...but I'm killing a hoard of your dudes? Oh, and let's take out that x/6 as well. Or Bolt you, whatevs."

Mein Goht that would be great.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:04 am**

Tormented Hero B
Creature - Human Warrior (U)
Tormented Hero enters the battlefield tapped.
Heroic - Whenever you cast a spell that targets Tormented Hero, each opponent loses 1 life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
2/1

Well that ain't half bad.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:11 am**

Slagstorm even fits the name and number crunch.
I doubt it will happen, but it would be a thing of beauty.

Flamebreak also fits.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:14 am**

Tormented Hero B
Creature - Human Warrior (U)
Tormented Hero enters the battlefield tapped.
Heroic - Whenever you cast a spell that targets Tormented Hero, each opponent loses 1 life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
2/1

Well that ain't half bad.

Looks like Diregraf Ghoul successfully came back from the dead.

Is there art for that? Sounds nifty flavorwise.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:17 am**

Looks like Diregraf Ghoul successfully came back from the dead.

Is there art for that? Sounds nifty flavorwise.

There is, but not only is it meh I'm lazy and tired. G'night folks.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:17 am**

Nevermind, I got off my lazy ass and looked. Meh.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:19 am**

Slagstorm even fits the name and number crunch.
I doubt it will happen, but it would be a thing of beauty.

Flamebreak also fits.

True, my friend...completely forgot Slagstorm while thinking of Whipflare. Oh that would just be too wonderful...

I'm liking Whip of Erebos...that's what black needed to stay alive against aggro. I will be brewing on the dark side...most likely Orzhov.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:21 am**

Fanatic of Mogis 3R
Creature - Minotaur Shaman (U)
When Fanatic of Mogis enters the battlefield, it deals damage to each opponent equal to your devotion to red.
4/2

Oh, that's fun. That could easily be six or more damage when it comes down.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:22 am**

That's a pretty good card.

Very interesting. Minotaur tribal hmmmmm.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:27 am**

That's a pretty good card.

Very interesting. Minotaur tribal hmmmmm.

I was looking at it as well, but damn there goes the 4-slot again. Still, Minotaurs do seem to carry significant devotion if you curve out...

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:29 am**

Yeah, not sure what you do early, maybe you're all 3-5 drop value creatures plus cheap burn?

I guess that was tried last season and it stunk though.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:30 am**

Fanatic of Mogis is an interesting card. Could be a decent curve topper in RDW. Also Interacts favorably with Legion's Initiative.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:08 am**

[deck]
Creatures
4 Rakdos Cackler
3 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Ash Zealot
4 Rageblood Shaman
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Fanatic of Mogis
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge

Other Spells
2 Legion's Initiative
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
2 Boros Charm
1 Hammer of Purphoros

23 Land
[/deck]

I don't love Denizen, but he's devotion on the board. Perhaps he should be Loyalist, though he's not a generally a T1 play.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:29 am**

Everyone is worrying about the plant too much. It dies to electrickery.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:32 am**

Cackler/Zealot swing + Electrickery.
As someone who played the shit out of Wall of Omens I really need to tell you that's bigger deal than you expect it to be.
You loose tempo and additional card just to deal with it. In case of not having a card or not having a creature - you loose even more tempo.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:45 am**

I think I'd play that minotaur over the 4CC god. I might be wrong though.

In other news, I went 8-2 in modern using B/G midrange. Sick deck is sick, I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a modern deck to play for high stakes.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:48 am**

[deck]4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Ash Zealot
4 Young Pyromancer
4 Boros Reckoner
2 Fanatic of Mogis
2 Stormbreath Dragon

Other Spells
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
4 Shock

Lands:
20 Mountain
4 Mutavault

Sideboard:
4 Mizzium Mortars
4 Skullcrack
2 Electrickery
2 Hammer of Purphoros
2 Stormbreath Dragon
1 Mountain[/deck]

No-gimmick aggro red.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:00 am**

It's clean, cookie-cutter and nice. Still, I'd take Legion Loyalist over Foundry Street Denizen all day.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:07 am**

4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Burning Tree Emissary
4 Firefist Striker
4 Young Pyromancer
4 Chandra's Phoenix

1 Hammer of Purphorous

3 Dynacharge
4 Lightning Strike
4 Magma Jet
4 Shock

18 Mountain
2 Mutavault

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:11 am**

^ ^ ^
Post-rotation AIR, James? Sweet...

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:48 am**

^^Oh yes, and it's budget-friendly as well. Got my seal of approval.

Must say I like that Fanatic of Mogis, and a minotaur deck with Rageblood Shaman and Reckoner is starting to look really interesting.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:56 am**

Hammer should always have a spot maindeck.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:43 am**

It's ridic.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:08 am**

Is this SB for Gruul Aggro even viable:

Sideboard:
4 Savage Summoning
4 Mizzium Mortars
4 Flames of the Firebrand
3 Destructive Revelry

I already do have 2 Hammers maindeck.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:22 pm**

Wow...blue is seeing something that they haven't had for a while: A meaningful 1CMC counter.

Swan's Song

Instant (R)

Counter target enchantment, instant, or sorcery spell.
Its controller puts a Bird Token 2/2 with flying onto the
battlefield under his control.

So...A 1-drop answer to both the gods and their weapons, and that renders Bestow useless.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:12 pm**

Casual 2-for-1 though

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:20 pm**

Probably better in Modern than in Standard, though.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:32 pm**

And on today's dramatic episode of "Life of Windstrider" watch as our protagonist wrestles with more car troubles and a broken water heater. Thrilling!

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:44 pm**

Sorry to hear that windstrider

Best of luck!

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:45 pm**

Also whats Kibler's modern naya list? /stilltoocheap for scgpremium

Next time you're here just remember to ask and I can get a discount code for you. I think they're good for a year.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:50 pm**

And on today's dramatic episode of "Life of Windstrider" watch as our protagonist wrestles with more car troubles and a broken water heater. Thrilling!

Remember what you did with your ex wife?

You need to do that with your car.

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