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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:41 pm
by redthirst
CAUSE IT AIN'T THERE BECAUSE STORING DEAD RIGGERS AIN'T MY FUCKING BUSINESS!
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:43 pm
by redthirst
But seriously...
Where my riggers at?
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:43 pm
by Khaospawn
Cuz storing dead riggers ain't my business!
Edit : ninja'd by rt. Stupid phone....
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:45 pm
by Khaospawn
Love my riggers, but where's my bitches?
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:45 pm
by redthirst
Tell me something Wizards... what does redthirst look like?
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:45 pm
by Khaospawn
Does he look like a bitch?
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:46 pm
by redthirst
Then why you try and fuck him like a bitch?
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:48 pm
by Helios
Yes, you did. Yes, you did, Wizards. You tried to fuck him. And redthirst don't like to be fucked by anybody except upper-class hoes with lines of coke all over 'em. You read the Bible, Wizards?
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:53 pm
by redthirst
I remember a buddy and I did that scene randomly as some party in front of a dude from Australia who had no clue what we were talking about.
At one point the guy just perfectly said "what?" and my buddy was like "What country you from?"
He said "Australia"
My buddy said "Australia ain't no country I ever heard of! They speak English in Australia?"
Which caused the guy to ask again, honestly perplexed "What?"
"ENGLISH MOTHER FUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT?"
The guy just left and we never saw him again.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:54 pm
by redthirst
I like to think that was the first time I ever met zem.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:56 pm
by Calamity
It was destiny
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:03 pm
by warwizard87
This conversation

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:04 pm
by warwizard87
As a old school sligh player this spoiler season is aggravating

the deck I want to play is so close yet so far away.

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:07 pm
by DroppinSuga
Lovin' these movie quotes.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:27 pm
by Valdarith
Good thing we have instants to shoot these things. Though with the Heroic trigger, it can still get the +1/+1 counter before a burn spell resolves.
It will only get a counter if they respond to the burn spell with another spell that targets it. You can still respond to the heroic trigger, same as always.
Gods Willing is going to be magical in any Heroic deck.
I was thinking of the tried and true tactic
of shooting the creature out from under the enchantment before it resolves. For example, you couldn't kill the Hero with a Shock if they target it with an enchantment. It would get the counter before the Shock would resolve.
That's not true. If they cast an enchantment targetting the creature, the heroic trigger goes on the stack. You Shock it in response to the Heroic trigger, and it dies.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:33 pm
by lorddax
Say what again.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:36 pm
by hamfactorial
Good thing we have instants to shoot these things. Though with the Heroic trigger, it can still get the +1/+1 counter before a burn spell resolves.
It will only get a counter if they respond to the burn spell with another spell that targets it. You can still respond
to the heroic trigger, same as always.
Gods Willing is going to be magical in any Heroic deck.
I was thinking of the tried and true tactic of shooting the creature out from under the enchantment before it resolves. For example, you couldn't kill the Hero with a Shock if they target it with an enchantment. It would get the counter before the Shock would resolve.
That's not true. If they cast an enchantment targetting the creature, the heroic trigger goes on the stack. You Shock it in response to the Heroic trigger, and it dies.
Val is right. You simply say "in response to the Heroic trigger" and cast your Shock. EZPZ casual 2-for-1.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:40 pm
by RedNihilist
EZPZ?
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:44 pm
by Helios
tl;dr - Magic continues to work the way it always has.
My buddy is trying to argue that being in 3 color has no disadvantage over monocolor because the format is a turn slower. I know he's smarter than this, so I really don't understand why the conversation is happening.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:48 pm
by redthirst
EZPZ?
Easy peasy.
Eee Zee Pee Zee.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:52 pm
by Calamity
tl;dr - Magic continues to work the way it always has.
My buddy is trying to argue that being in 3 color has no disadvantage over monocolor because the format is a turn slower. I know he's smarter than this, so I really don't understand why the conversation is happening.
Tell him you agree having half your manabase ETB tapped is in no way a disadvantage so you can get freewins at FNM
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:54 pm
by redthirst
It's true, your buddy must want to subconsciously give you free packs.
You should be a good friend and help him.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:56 pm
by Helios
EZPZ?
Easy peasy.
Extra Zesty Penis of redZ
Fixed that for you.
It's true, your buddy must want to subconsciously give you free packs.
You should be a good friend and help him.
This plan, I like it.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:00 pm
by DroppinSuga
On one hand, I like free packs, but on the other hand, I like the store credit the shop gives out instead of packs.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:12 pm
by Yarpus
Aaand here goes my deck. I mean, I'm getting blown really hard by Anger to Gods.
Good thing is, I can actually play deck I do like.
Still, I believe RB would be the best colour combination for Midrange. Even without Toughtseize, I get Cerberus, Rakdos Return and Exava. What creatures White gives you?
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:14 pm
by warwizard87
Aaand here goes my deck. I mean, I'm getting blown really hard by Anger to Gods.
Good thing is, I can actually play deck I do like.
Still, I believe RB would be the best colour combination for Midrange. Even without Toughtseize, I get Cerberus, Rakdos Return and Exava. What creatures White gives you?
I share the feels.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:14 pm
by hamfactorial
What are the pack / store credit ratios at your LGS? My shop will give store credit at $3/pack.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:17 pm
by RedNihilist
My LGS doesn't give credit at all.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:18 pm
by redthirst
I'm getting blown really hard
Me too!

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:21 pm
by warwizard87
Aaand here goes my deck. I mean, I'm getting blown really hard by Anger to Gods.
Good thing is, I can actually play deck I do like.
Still, I believe RB would be the best colour combination for Midrange. Even without Toughtseize, I get Cerberus, Rakdos Return and Exava. What creatures White gives you?
This goes against everything I stand for but I am almost ready to just build bant pillow fort LOL
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:28 pm
by Helios
What creatures White gives you?
I mean, you have easier Reckoner access. More importantly though, Boros Charm.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:32 pm
by redthirst
Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that Aurelia's Fury and Firemane Angel are possibly not hot garbage in the new Standard.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:36 pm
by redthirst
Not even a suspicion, really. Just a hint of a whisper of a suspicion.
So fragile, that to even speak it out loud would tear it asunder.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:44 pm
by Yarpus
Reckoner seems meh with UB Control live again. I mean, between Far / Away, Doom Blade, new Dreadbore - there's not really that much place for this fellow. He's decent, but not "grab me I'm hot as fuck" decent.
Firemane Avenger is still trash due to 3 toughness. It gets blown by Lightning Strike and Anger of Gods. It's slow. It's usable only in aggro/midrange tactic. Sorry for that redthirst, but even your donger shouldn't be able to make this card good.
Same goes for Aurelia's Fury. It costs shitzilion of mana, does nothing. When I'm using 6 mana to cast a spell, I'd rather be sure it does something. Clan Defiance kills flier, kills non-flier and burns the player. Here? Nothing.
The only card that keeps nagging me to go Boros is Wear/Tear and currently it's value doesn't look super impressive. The only playable enchantment/artifact is... Hammer of Purphoros.
I will probably still play RG Aggro, maybe
extend the curve a bit to make sideboard more transformative.
Do you remember me going all crazy about Mono Red Control? Shit's pretty decent now.
[deck]Creatures:
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Stormbreath Dragon
4 Scourge of Valkas
Planeswalkers:
4 Chandra, Pyromaster
Other Spells:
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
4 Anger of the Gods
2 Hammer of Purphoros
Lands:
22 Mountain
2 Mutavault[/deck]
RB Version
[deck]Creatures:
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch
4 Underworld Cerberus
Planeswalkers:
4 Chandra, Pyromaster
Other Spells:
4 Dreadbore
4 Magma Jet
4 Anger of the Gods
2 Hammer of Purphoros
Lands:
4 Blood Crypt
4 Rakdos Guildgate
16 Mountain[/deck]
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:54 pm
by hamfactorial
I love how Yarpus keeps talking about the gods blowing him and his creatures.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:56 pm
by Helios
Agree on all points, mostly. Reckoner's value will very much depend on how much black shows up. But a lot of those suppositions depend on the deck you are playing: R/G may very well be better aggro, but I think red + white for Boros Charm makes for a strong midrangey burn deck.
EDIT: Scourge of Valkas is too far for me lol. Too deep.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:57 pm
by Khaospawn
I dunno. There's a reason why I'm not brewing anything at the moment.
The whole set isn't spoiled yet. So why bother? I'm not about to get invested into something when then it can all change within 24 hours.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:00 pm
by redthirst
Aurelia's Fury: cost a shazillion mana - does nothing. Don't agree with that.
Also you say there's not much room for Reckoner, but then posts a list with 4 Reckoner MB?
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:07 pm
by Link
I wouldn't underestimate firemane avenger, Yarpus.
The main reason it hasnt seen shitall play was Restoration Angel.
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:08 pm
by Link
also if anger of the gods is really what you're looking for, Annihilating Fire is strictly better
oh holy shit EACH CREATURE?