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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:15 am**

I mean it is entirely possible that I was also just playing horrendous Magic. It was Game Day.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:18 am**

It gets more and more clear as time goes on why we absconded from the website.

This.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:22 am**

Some of the BWR Mid/Control decks were maindecking it, but we all know that the "Kamahl concept" never made more than a fringe splash here and there

This was the 5th place deck at PTQ Theros in Springfield in July:

[deck]
LANDS
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Blood Crypt
4 Clifftop Retreat
4 Dragonskull Summit
2 Cavern of Souls

CREATURES
4 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
4 Boros Reckoner
3 Olivia Voldaren
2 Vampire Nighthawk

INSTANTS and SORCERIES
4 Warleader's Helix
3 Pillar of Flame
3 Rakdos's Return
2 Mizzium Mortars
2 Dreadbore
1 Sever the Bloodline

OTHER SPELLS
2 Assemble the Legion
2 Underworld Connections
2 Rakdos Keyrune

SIDEBOARD
1 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
1 Vampire Nighthawk
1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
2 Oblivion Ring
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Rest in Peace
2 Rolling Temblor
2 Sin Collector
2 Slaughter Games
[/deck]

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:23 am**

Also, random aside, can we abstain from the decklist development in this thread and instead use the appropriate forums? No offense to anybody, but those forums really need some content/traffic, and a lot of it is buried underneath literally hundreds of pages in this thread. If you don't want your list public we can use the appropriate hidden clan thread, but for the sake of the growth of the site I'd appreciate it if you guys would...you know, adhere.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:25 am**

Plus I really want to pretend that my moderation status is important so that I can be cool like Sene.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:27 am**

I will try my best. It's mostly idle laziness on my behalf when I'm at work. I could just open two windows, but that's 30 seconds of my life ill never get back (same as the first girl I had sex with curiously). Hmmmmmmm

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:32 am**

Imagine how much more difficult it is for me to do on my phone! I do not pity you, sir.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:33 am**

Also I think the nyquil is finally kicking in. Turns out it wasn't JUST food poisoning, I've also got one hell of a head cold. It's been a horrid weekend, looking forward to it ending.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:33 am**

Also a lot of scotch. Scotch helped too.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:41 am**

As to this point of buried decklists, I'm currently looking into a means of organizing all of the decklist concepts that tend to come up as a part of routine discussion in this and other threads. The big question, however, is how much of our brewing we want in the main public Standard forum and how much we want to have under veil. I mean, it's not like we're developing super-secret formulae or anything, but at the same time I know it irked me last year when ahead-of-the-curve concepts went elsewhere without so much as credit to the creator (e.g., Travis Woo passing off zeman's brew as his own concept).

I guess before I go any deeper into committing any time, I should ask the question...do we want our main brewing in the restricted area (the FoS only one where the brewery thread currently resides, not the upper FoS one) with current deck discussion out in the Standard area, or are we just going to
move deck-related and brewing discussion out there? I really do want to do something that provides a means of keeping all these deck ideas sorted and findable 2 days later, but I don't want to get something up and rolling only to scrap it.

Clan discussion?

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:50 am**

I think the brewing should be in the restricted area until the meta is somewhat stable/known. Then further discussions/modifications on those decks can be done in the Standard area, and new brewing against that meta can continue in the restricted area.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:03 am**

Some of the BWR Mid/Control decks were maindecking it, but we all know that the "Kamahl concept" never made more than a fringe splash here and there

This was the 5th place deck at PTQ Theros in Springfield in July:

[deck]
LANDS
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Blood Crypt
4 Clifftop Retreat
4 Dragonskull Summit
2 Cavern of Souls

CREATURES
4 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
4 Boros Reckoner
3 Olivia Voldaren
2 Vampire Nighthawk

INSTANTS and SORCERIES
4 Warleader's Helix
3 Pillar of Flame
3 Rakdos's Return
2 Mizzium Mortars
2 Dreadbore
1 Sever the Bloodline

OTHER SPELLS
2 Assemble the Legion
2 Underworld Connections
2 Rakdos Keyrune

SIDEBOARD
1 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
1
Vampire Nighthawk
1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
2 Oblivion Ring
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Rest in Peace
2 Rolling Temblor
2 Sin Collector
2 Slaughter Games
[/deck]

This list really needs Purge the Profane.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:13 am**

My father is better.
From the first analysis, it seems like he developed a benign tumor in various places of his digestive tract and he should undergo surgical treatment over the week, in the meanwhile he's getting other exams and things.

It really does seem like that things are not really bad, except for the bloodloss.
And, well, the fact that I will have to be colonscopized before the end of the year because it may there may be something genetic going on.

Thanks for the support guys.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:25 am**

I look forward to collecting my packs:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=537977

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:26 am**

This is what I'm thinking of doing with these spontaneous discussions (this is a link over to the actual example post I made in the cleanup thread Yarpus started earlier today). Obviously, if people were to specifically go to the appropriate forum to post their Boros/Gruul/Sledgehammer concept it will be the least work and best organization for everyone, but if you even consider how crazy the Dos Rakis thread over on Sally got, you can see how easy it is to lose ideas.

I'm volunteering to take on "modding" a restricted brewing area if y'all think this would be useful/appropriate. I mean, I don't want to play den mother and go sweeping stuff up everywhere and boxing it, but if we're interested in truly running a clan-restricted brewery, I'd be happy to organize it. If we continue to grow
and proliferate information, someone else can jump in and help out.

My thought is that this could then feed into the public content. When a concept becomes a viable deck with public interest (again, like Dos Rakis), the discussion that led to its development could then be moved over to a new Standard area thread (along with the authoring of a new primer as appropriate).

We're at the beginning of a block...I know that decks that will be meta-defining will undoubtedly come to life here, and I would like to see them be carried from idea to working model.

Yay or nay? Is it worth a try, or no?

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:32 am**

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:33 am**

I look forward to collecting my packs:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=537977

Well crap on toast...MTGS will be firewalled out for me once this move happens. I'm not sure what makes one URL work and another not...too strange.

As to the BG deck...

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:49 am**

I look forward to collecting my packs:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=537977

nothing wrong with that deck I just want to play vs that every round at states that's all.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:35 pm**

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/a ... %2Fwelcome

Seems like that the Playable Chandra sees play.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:12 pm**

I think the brewing should be in the restricted area until the meta is somewhat stable/known. Then further discussions/modifications on those decks can be done in the Standard area, and new brewing against that meta can continue in the restricted area.

This is what I was thinking. Until the meta stabilizes, we should keep most of the brewing under wraps. I know I wasn't here when it happened, but we don't want "legit" deckbuilders taking builds and making an article on them.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:23 pm**

It's really funny watching people freak when the Hammer hits the table. They can't cast removal fast enough to make it go away.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:44 pm**

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/a ... %2Fwelcome

Seems like that the Playable Chandra sees play.

Modern looks really boring

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:44 pm**

Modern and EDH are the most fun formats IMO.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:47 pm**

This is what I'm thinking of doing with these spontaneous discussions (this is a link over to the actual example post I made in the cleanup thread Yarpus started earlier today). Obviously, if people were to specifically go to the appropriate forum to post their Boros/Gruul/Sledgehammer concept it will be the least work and best organization for everyone, but if you even consider how crazy the Dos Rakis thread over on Sally got, you can see how easy it is to lose ideas.

I'm volunteering to take on "modding" a restricted brewing area if y'all think this would be useful/appropriate. I mean, I don't want to play den mother and go
sweeping stuff up everywhere and boxing it, but if we're interested in truly running a clan-restricted brewery, I'd be happy to organize it. If we continue to grow and proliferate information, someone else can jump in and help out.

My thought is that this could then feed into the public content. When a concept becomes a viable deck with public interest (again, like Dos Rakis), the discussion that led to its development could then be moved over to a new Standard area thread (along with the authoring of a new primer as appropriate).

We're at the beginning of a block...I know that decks that will be meta-defining will undoubtedly come to life here, and I would like to see them be carried from idea to working model.

Yay or nay? Is it worth a try, or no?

Apperantly I'm not authorised to view whatever that linky is

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:47 pm**

This is what I'm thinking of doing with these spontaneous discussions (this is a link over to the actual example post I made in the cleanup thread Yarpus started earlier today). Obviously, if people were to specifically go to the appropriate forum to post their Boros/Gruul/Sledgehammer concept it will be the least work and best organization for everyone, but if you even consider how crazy the Dos Rakis thread over on Sally got, you can see how easy it is to lose ideas.

[content snipped for brevity]

Yay or nay? Is it worth a try, or no?

This sounds like a very good idea.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:48 pm**

Modern and EDH are the most fun formats IMO.

If the format ends up having the same proportion of decks as that top 8 then it will be awful.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:50 pm**

I look forward to collecting my packs:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=537977

Originally posted by Mike Caza on MTGS

That's a great deck if you plan on playing at your kitchen table.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:54 pm**

This is what I'm thinking of doing with these spontaneous discussions (this is a link over to the actual example post I made in the cleanup thread Yarpus started earlier today). Obviously, if people were to specifically go to the appropriate forum to post their Boros/Gruul/Sledgehammer concept it will be the least work and best organization for everyone, but if you even consider how crazy the Dos Rakis thread over on Sally got, you can see how easy it is to lose ideas.

I'm
volunteering to take on "modding" a restricted brewing area if y'all think this would be useful/appropriate. I mean, I don't want to play den mother and go sweeping stuff up everywhere and boxing it, but if we're interested in truly running a clan-restricted brewery, I'd be happy to organize it. If we continue to grow and proliferate information, someone else can jump in and help out.

My thought is that this could then feed into the public content. When a concept becomes a viable deck with public interest (again, like Dos Rakis), the discussion that led to its development could then be moved over to a new Standard area thread (along with the authoring of a new primer as appropriate).

We're at the beginning of a block...I know that decks that will be meta-defining will undoubtedly come to life here, and I would like to see them be carried from idea to working model.

Yay or nay? Is it worth a try, or no?
Apperantly I'm not authorised to view whatever that linky
is

Perhaps I'm not a full member because I didn't complement redthirsts.....umm member enough

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:06 pm**

If you want access, you have to allow thirst access to your orifices (orifi?) first. And while he's having his way, you must sing: "thirst, you really got me now, you got me so I can't sleep at night!"

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:08 pm**

This is what I'm thinking of doing with these spontaneous discussions (this is a link over to the actual example post I made in the cleanup thread Yarpus started earlier today). Obviously, if people were to specifically go to the appropriate forum to post their Boros/Gruul/Sledgehammer concept it will be the least work and best
organization for everyone, but if you even consider how crazy the Dos Rakis thread over on Sally got, you can see how easy it is to lose ideas.

I'm volunteering to take on "modding" a restricted brewing area if y'all think this would be useful/appropriate. I mean, I don't want to play den mother and go sweeping stuff up everywhere and boxing it, but if we're interested in truly running a clan-restricted brewery, I'd be happy to organize it. If we continue to grow and proliferate information, someone else can jump in and help out.

My thought is that this could then feed into the public content. When a concept becomes a viable deck with public interest (again, like Dos Rakis), the discussion that led to its development could then be moved over to a new Standard area thread (along with the authoring of a new primer as appropriate).

We're at the beginning of a block...I know that decks that will be meta-defining will undoubtedly come to life here, and I would like to see them be
carried from idea to working model.

Yay or nay? Is it worth a try, or no?
Apperantly I'm not authorised to view whatever that linky is

Perhaps I'm not a full member because I didn't complement redthirsts.....umm member enough

Well fuck, I probably just neglected to get you on the list or misspelled your name or something. I'll fix it and if anyone else who's been around for a while can't access the Resticted forums, be sure to PM me.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:08 pm**

Oh My!

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:11 pm**

This is what I'm thinking of doing with these spontaneous discussions (this is a link over to the actual example post I made in the cleanup thread Yarpus started
earlier today). Obviously, if people were to specifically go to the appropriate forum to post their Boros/Gruul/Sledgehammer concept it will be the least work and best organization for everyone, but if you even consider how crazy the Dos Rakis thread over on Sally got, you can see how easy it is to lose ideas.

I'm volunteering to take on "modding" a restricted brewing area if y'all think this would be useful/appropriate. I mean, I don't want to play den mother and go sweeping stuff up everywhere and boxing it, but if we're interested in truly running a clan-restricted brewery, I'd be happy to organize it. If we continue to grow and proliferate information, someone else can jump in and help out.

My thought is that this could then feed into the public content. When a concept becomes a viable deck with public interest (again, like Dos Rakis), the discussion that led to its development could then be moved over to a new Standard area thread (along with the authoring of a new primer as
appropriate).

We're at the beginning of a block...I know that decks that will be meta-defining will undoubtedly come to life here, and I would like to see them be carried from idea to working model.

Yay or nay? Is it worth a try, or no?
Apperantly I'm not authorised to view whatever that linky is

Perhaps I'm not a full member because I didn't complement redthirsts.....umm member enough
Well fuck, I probably just neglected to get you on the list or misspelled your name or something. I'll fix it and if anyone else who's been around for a while can't access the Resticted forums, be sure to PM me.

Its cool. I figured it was something like that lol. Man I hate phones deleting extra quotes is hard.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:14 pm**

Okay, everyone, the council has convened and decided in its infinite wisdom that Yarpus and warwizard87 are Tier 2 material. I'm pretty sure they were there anyway, but just got dropped when they were MIA for so long. Anywho, y'all are back where you belong.

In addition, all Tier 3+ members should hold onto your butts because our own Clan Super Gay Alex now has access to our most private areas.

Congrats!

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:33 pm**

Tier 3 just got super gay. :shocked:

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:34 pm**

Okay, everyone, the council has convened and decided in its infinite wisdom that Yarpus and warwizard87 are Tier 2 material. I'm pretty sure they were there anyway, but just got dropped when they were MIA for so long. Anywho, y'all are back where you belong.

In addition, all Tier 3+ members should hold onto your butts because our own Clan Super Gay Alex now has access to our most private areas.

Congrats!

Yay!!! Yeah I go mia sometimes when I can't play irl stupid work and responsibility and things

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:11 pm**

Oh, MTGS people:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthre ... p=10724259

Yarpus drops knowledge on them, they drop Chandra for Assemble the Legion. WTF.

@Red: Glad to hear your father is doing ok. Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

I second brewing being in the restricted area. We could....use the brewing thread?

Congrats to promoted folks!

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:54 pm**

I more or less meant use the brewing thread for anything you plan on keeping on the DL, use the appropriate forum for everything else.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:21 pm**

I think I was in the council back during MTGS days.
Also the main thing that kept me away from coming here was fact that my IP was banned from this site, and I've seen no red folks on MTGS. :<
Still, thanks for promotion! Will try to do my best.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:35 pm**

I more or less meant use the brewing thread for anything you plan on keeping on the DL, use the appropriate forum for everything else.

That's what I figured you meant, good sir; we're on the same page.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:02 pm**

Congrats on the promotions, folks.

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