[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Helios]

Looks like i might be the next redbro in line to have lady troubles...

Uh-oh. What's up?

Yeah I don't bother going there since you guys use the Boros thread and the Kuroda Boros thread interchangeably.

I'll do betta masta suh. Do want your thoughts.

[Kazekirimaru]

We should all just be rid of women and be homosexual like Alex. Vaginas are nothing but trouble.

[photodyer]

So. Am I the only one who believes that Thoughtseize isn't a no-brainer in any deck playing swamps? And that you don't jam it first turn every game? I've gotten in a bit of a tug of war with a guy in sally's Rock thread in the Established section. His point is basically that since it's the best discard spell ever played and that it's been in winning decks in every format it's beenp played, that it's an auto-include. My point is that it's still a card that takes thought to include and play correctly.

The Duke actually wrote a remarkably informative article about the card--without doubt the most in-depth single-card treatise that I've ever read. He makes the very point that you are arguing, wraspy--Thoughtseize does not belong in every
deck that has black mana. It's a fantastic read.

Check over on SCG for "Thoughtseize You".

[Kazekirimaru]

Forgot to mention it's a premium article >.>

[Helios]

We should all just be rid of women and be homosexual like Alex. Vaginas are nothing but trouble.

I would argue that in addition to being trouble, they are delightful. You and Alex can go have sexy time by yourselves

[Kazekirimaru]

Fancy me a princess for a night.

[windstrider]

@Calamity -- Sorry to hear that. What's happening?

@Kaze -- No.

[photodyer]

Forgot to mention it's a premium article >.>

FTS. Check your inbox.

[rcwraspy]

So. Am I the only one who believes that Thoughtseize isn't a no-brainer in any deck playing swamps? And that you don't jam it first turn every game? I've gotten in a bit of a tug of war with a guy in sally's Rock thread in the Established section. His point is basically that since it's the best discard spell ever played and that it's been in winning decks in every format it's beenp played, that it's an auto-include. My point is that it's still a card that takes thought to include and play correctly.

The Duke actually wrote a remarkably informative article about the card--
without doubt the most in-depth single-card treatise that I've ever read. He makes the very point that you are arguing, wraspy--Thoughtseize does not belong in every deck that has black mana. It's a fantastic read.

Check over on SCG for "Thoughtseize You".

Yep! Have read it a few times now. It really is an excellent read. And of course, it's the source of my argument as well. But the guy in the thread decides, instead of looking up the Reid Duke article I point him to, decides to say:

Clearly you do not understand or comprehend my claims. Not to worry, though. I get that your comprehension must be questionable so if you choose to disagree, then go ahead... I'm done trying to convince an ignorantly stubborn horse to drink from the water that I showed you...

I'm not sure how I got SCG Premium access, but I have it, and have that article bookmarked.

[photodyer]

^Do you order from SCG (or have you)? If so I think they give like 6 months with certain orders if I recall correctly.

[Kazekirimaru]

Forgot to mention it's a premium article >.>

FTS. Check your inbox.

You're a Robin Hood of knowledge, photo.

[rcwraspy]

^Do you order from SCG (or have you)? If so I think they give like 6 months with certain orders if I recall correctly.

I've only ever ordered low-value singles from them. I attended an Open a while ago, but haven't yet redeemed the 1 month card that was handed to participants.

However, they just updated their mobile app. Before they did that, I had bought the purchasable (non-free) app from the Apple store, and it didn't come with any extra content. My guess is that the app purchase, which I think was just a couple dollars, kicked in a premium membership when they updated.

[Calamity]

Looks like i might be the next redbro in line to have lady troubles...

Uh-oh. What's up?

This semester has been really stressful on our relationship. We're both really busy so we don't get much RL hangout time. When I get stressed I tend to ball it up inside and not talk or text or anything (plus i hate texting in general. it's a necessary evil though nowadays), and the fact that we don't get to hang out much for stress relief made the problem that much worse. She tells me it seems I'm getting distant and I tell her I'm just really stressed. She starts texting and hanging out more
with a mutual male friend that's having relationship trouble of his own (he's imminently ending his 7 year relationship with a chick he's now discovering is crazy) to fill the void. They became good friends, and since I know the guy fairly well I don't have a problem with it.

Now a few weeks later, she tells me when she was hanging out with him the other night he told her he has feelings for her and now she's really confused. She tells me she still loves me but she has so much in common with this guy and it's so much easier to talk to him recently. Both of these people's families were torn apart by infidelity, so I believe her when she says she hasn't been unfaithful (and if i had any reason to believe she was I'd have ended already).

I just feel so betrayed. My friend doesn't have many other friends, and my girlfriend is one of his best friends. I didn't want to deny him her support, but at the same time it seems like she abandoned and replaced me. I know this is nothing compared to what
some of you guys have gone through but this is my first serious relationship and it's lasted almost 2 years.

I simultaneously blame myself and blame her. It just feels shitty.

[Alex]

We should all just be rid of women and be homosexual like Alex. Vaginas are nothing but trouble.

Being homosexual implies that I am getting laid. I'm practically celibate at this point. Mostly due to "bitches be cray" syndrome. You're quickly learning the ways of this syndrome yourself.

[Helios]

Man, that really sucks. Maybe

When I get stressed I tend to ball it up inside and not talk or text or anything (plus i hate texting in general. it's a necessary evil though nowadays), and the fact that we don't get to hang out much for stress relief made the problem that much worse.

this is part of the issue? If she feels like she can talk to him more easily than she can talk to you, it sounds like you need to communicate more. Giving a woman support and a friendly ear, as well as giving her the opportunity to do the same for you, is important to a healthy relationship. As stressful as school can be, it is important that ya'll set aside time for your relationship so that you can establish that kind of rapport that you've lost. That being said, it is great
that you trust her not to have been unfaithful; most people would assume the worst, and good on you for not doing so. I don't know what to tell you about the other guy; hopefully you can tell her you'll communicate better, and she can let him down easy. Confronting him isn't a terrible option either, but make sure you aren't speaking for your girl- she should vocalize her own feelings.

[Kazekirimaru]

We should all just be rid of women and be homosexual like Alex. Vaginas are nothing but trouble.

Being homosexual implies that I am getting laid. I'm practically celibate at this point. Mostly due to "bitches be cray" syndrome. You're quickly learning the ways of this syndrome yourself.

Asexual, then.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm really sorry to hear of your troubles, Calamity. I think it's pretty awesome of you that despite this going on you're thinking of the emotional needs of your friend and the support your gf is giving him. All I can really think to do is open up to her, like Helios said.

[Calamity]

Man, that really sucks. Maybe

When I get stressed I tend to ball it up inside and not talk or text or anything (plus i hate texting in general. it's a necessary evil though nowadays), and the fact that we don't get to hang out much for stress relief made the problem that much worse.

this is part of the issue? If she feels like she can talk to him more easily than she can talk to you, it sounds like you need to communicate more. Giving a woman support and a friendly ear, as well as giving her the opportunity to do the same for you, is important to a healthy relationship. As stressful as school can be, it
is important that ya'll set aside time for your relationship so that you can establish that kind of rapport that you've lost. That being said, it is great that you trust her not to have been unfaithful; most people would assume the worst, and good on you for not doing so. I don't know what to tell you about the other guy; hopefully you can tell her you'll communicate better, and she can let him down easy. Confronting him isn't a terrible option either, but make sure you aren't speaking for your girl- she should vocalize her own feelings.

It's the heart of the issue, i think.

I'm a great listener, I just tend to think too much and talk too little at times. She reads that as apathy when in reality i just don't know what to say with a million thoughts floating around in my head. Most of the time when we're together IRL we communicate just fine, which is why i thought things were going well. It was kind of a vicious cycle. I was stressed so I didn't talk, we didn't hang out as much
so i got more stressed etc...

I'm not gonna confront my friend unless he makes a move/tries to break us up. I can't blame the guy for having feelings.

[Helios]

Have you explained all of that to her?

II think it's pretty awesome of you that despite this going on you're thinking of the emotional needs of your friend and the support your gf is giving him.

Agreed, that is very sweet of you.

[windstrider]

@Calamity — I can only really echo what Helios said: meaningful communication is essential to any successful relationship. You should make the time to sit and talk to her about your relationship.

I'm also concerned that this guy admits to feelings for her while in the aftermath of a long-term relationship. That is not healthy at all. He needs time to himself to sort out his feelings about the breakup.

[Calamity]

Have you explained all of that to her?

II think it's pretty awesome of you that despite this going on you're thinking of the emotional needs of your friend and the support your gf is giving him.

Agreed, that is very sweet of you.

Yeah, I"ve told her about that

[DerWille]

I'm going to be a bit harsher, but don't take it too hard.

Stop thinking, man up, and take your girl to do something fun. I'd recommend something physical like frisby golf, if it's warm enough, or ice skating, if it's cold enough. Don't do something passive like watching a movie. I'd keep it light, fun, and at the end of the day give your girl some wild screaming orgasms.

I wouldn't talk about the relationship, because talking about the relationship is the fastest way to fuck up the relationship. Lead. Show her the fun that being in a relationship with you entails.

[Helios]

Good deal Calamity. Sounds like things could improve both ways- she could be more understanding that you're quiet by nature, and you could communicate more. Meet in the middle. I'm off to bed; best of luck with your girl! Will catch up with you in the morning.

@DerWille: Doing is good, but not talking is bad.

[Calamity]

I'm going to be a bit harsher, but don't take it too hard.

Stop thinking, man up, and take your girl to do something fun. I'd recommend something physical like frisby golf, if it's warm enough, or ice skating, if it's cold enough. Don't do something passive like watching a movie. I'd keep it light, fun, and at the end of the day give your girl some wild screaming orgasms.

I wouldn't talk about the relationship, because talking about the relationship is the fastest way to fuck up the relationship. Lead. Show her the fun that being in a relationship with you entails.

Part of the problem is we're both busy as fuck and don't have time to do that at the moment

[Alex]

We should all just be rid of women and be homosexual like Alex. Vaginas are nothing but trouble.

Being homosexual implies that I am getting laid. I'm practically celibate at this point. Mostly due to "bitches be cray" syndrome. You're quickly learning the ways of this syndrome yourself.

Asexual, then.

Porn will never yell at you for leaving the seat up. It also won't break up with you and steal your house.

[Kazekirimaru]

Porn will never yell at you for leaving the seat up. It also won't break up with you and steal your house.

trufax

[Lightning_Dolt]

We should all just be rid of women and be homosexual like Alex. Vaginas are nothing but trouble.

Being homosexual implies that I am getting laid. I'm practically celibate at this point. Mostly due to "bitches be cray" syndrome. You're quickly learning
the ways of this syndrome yourself.

Asexual, then.

Porn will never yell at you for leaving the seat up. It also won't break up with you and steal your house.

Truth.

[RedNihilist]

@Calamity: Though situation, bro.

I've been through your friend's situation and I know how strongly you can bond to a relevant feminine friend while you're having relationship issues, I think you should speak to the both of them and try to find a way to settle things up without too much drama.
If you still love your GF, this is the best time to get closer with her again, saying you're sorry for everything and that now that you've feared of losing her you realized that she's so important to you and *BLAH BLAH WHATEVER*, while at the same time you can actually go to your friend and assault him with things like "she told me what you told her, but I'm not beating you up because I understand you're having hard times" or things like that; or maybe you can just beat him up.

[photodyer]

Rules query: Am I correct in thinking that a human reanimated by Whip of Erebos and who reaches 0 toughness before the end step would not trigger Xathrid Necromancer to make a zombie since the whip prevents reanimated creatures from entering the GY?

[Kazekirimaru]

When all else fails, at least you can retreat to the comforting bosom of MtG.

Mountains, unlike asses, are always up for being tapped.

[Kazekirimaru]

Rules query: Am I correct in thinking that a human reanimated by Whip of Erebos and who reaches 0 toughness before the end step would not trigger Xathrid Necromancer to make a zombie since the whip prevents reanimated creatures from entering the GY?

Pretty sure.

[RedNihilist]

Rules query: Am I correct in thinking that a human reanimated by Whip of Erebos and who reaches 0 toughness before the end step would not trigger Xathrid Necromancer to make a zombie since the whip prevents reanimated creatures from entering the GY?

"When [creature] dies" should be a shortcut for "when [creature] hits the cemetery", and the Whip prevents so - so yeah, you should be right.

Whip + Ozbedat is fun thoug, but sounds a bit like Magic Christmasland.

[photodyer]

^Not all that much Christmasland, really...how many decks are going to be running enough instant speed removal to kill Obzedat twice within the span of a few turns? Nothing I'd expect to see within the first few weeks of Standard...black-based control is just going to be too weak to red aggro for many sensible players to try to ride it through the developing meta. UB Control may eventually be a thing, but I'd guess not right out of the blocks.

OTOH, staying alive long enough to cast Obzedat against a sea of red aggro decks may be a more fundamental concern...

[Yarpus]

@Calamity
Try to imagine situation where you don't let her go if she wants that guy. I know, again, it's pretty damn fucking harsh, but relationships are fucking hard.

[Christen]

Last daily standard with the Nobles. It was a good year.

[Yarpus]

G'night, lil Vampire prince. We loved your swagwalks to victory. RIP [*]

[Khaospawn]

Calamity, I think your guy friend is crossing the line. If he makes a move on her, beat his ass for trying to take something from you. The dude was in a 7 year relationship but now he wants what you got? That doesn't sound like a good friend at all.

But then again, there's no telling what your girl has told him to cause him to do that.

I know exactly what you mean when you say that stress causes you to bottle everything up inside. This happens to me on a daily basis. I mostly refuse to talk about my problems with Kat and even you guys sometimes because (A) I don't feel like burdening everyone with my problems and (B) I don't want to bring those negative emotions back to the top. I just got done putting those feelings away and now I gotta talk about them and get riled up again? I don't think so.

The thing is, you can only bottle so much up until it just forces its way out in ways you can't
control. Much like redthirst's penis.

But anyway, if you want some bad advice from me in the meantime, I think what DerWille said is a good idea. Take her out and show her a fun time. It may be that you two need to reconnect on an emotional level. Do something with her that rekindles the flame and takes her mind off of your buddy. Try to open up some more, even if gets you going and stressed out a little bit more.

I hope everything works out. You know that we're all here for you, bro, no matter what happens. And if you ever need somebody to "disappear," I may know a guy who knows a guy....

[redthirst]

Yup. Your "friend" is a piece of shit - no wonder he doesn't have many friends. Telling your buddy's girl that you have feelings for her is absolutely crossing the line.

Also, I don't like the fact that your girlfriend is "confused" by everything. Good or bad, I'm with my girl and I expect my girl to be with me - not "confused" about how we feel. If she can't stick by you 100% during the hard times then she's not worth being with because hard times will happen and the last thing you need to have to worry about during those times is if your girl is a flight risk.

I'd let them have each other and be done with it. That's not hypothetical, either - I'm speaking from personal experience.

Also, bad Kaze.

[zemanjaski]

I have figured out that if everyone else is playing BTE+buddies, i want to be playing Ash Zealot + Young Pyro. The Mono R Mirror is very one sided when you have that creature set up.

[windstrider]

Yup. Your "friend" is a piece of shit - no wonder he doesn't have many friends. Telling your buddy's girl that you have feelings for her is absolutely crossing the line.

Also, I don't like the fact that your girlfriend is "confused" by everything. Good or bad, I'm with my girl and I expect my girl to be with me - not "confused" about how we feel. If she can't stick by you 100% during the hard times then she's not worth being with because hard times will happen and the last thing you need to have to worry about during those times is if your girl is a flight risk.

I'd let them have each other and be done with it. That's not hypothetical, either - I'm speaking from personal experience.

Also, bad
Kaze.

Oh lord, I hate to say it, but This ^.

I had a similar experience in grad school. I also had less time for my girlfriend who was a sophomore. She started hanging out more with a mutual friend who saw what was happening. He played the sympathy card on her, and she eventually cheated on me. The breakup was ghastly and nearly derailed grad school for me.

Before it gets to that stage, have a talk with both of them about what's happening. Let your friend know that he's crossing a line. The way he responds will tell you if you still want him as a friend. Your girlfriend also needs to decide what she wants. If she says she doesn't know, then do as redthirst suggested and leave the relationship. You don't need the additional stress of worrying about her and what she's doing. Sorting it out now will prevent a lot of nastiness later.