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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:20 pm
by Platypus
So, I just traded 4 Desecration Demons for a Chandra, best planeswalker in standard. Yay me! Best part, I got the demons for about 10€.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:34 pm
by hamfactorial
That's a good trade. It looks bad for you from a value perspective (your $40 to his $35), but DD is trash and Chandra has good long term potential. :smileup:

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:34 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Theros Standard Record improves to 16-3-0. I like having an 84% win ratio. Feels good man. Game Day playmat.... GET!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:37 pm
by windstrider
Congrats, JS! May your enemies burn and your women be enflamed with lust for you.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:40 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Congrats, JS! May your enemies burn and your women be enflamed with lust for you.
F :symr: S: All we do is win.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:45 pm
by hamfactorial
Congrats, JS! May your enemies burn and your women be enflamed with lust for you.
F :symr: S: All we do is win.
We win on the play, we win on the draw. We're bi-winning!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:49 pm
by Khaospawn
You want to test something maybe?

[deck]Creatures: 24
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Ash Zealot
4 Frostburn Weird
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells: 11
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
3 Chandra, Pyromaster

Lands: 25
3 Mutavault
22 Mountain

Sideboard: 15
4 Mizzium Mortars
4 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Burning Earth
3 ???????????????[/deck]

Haven't tested yet, but it looks fast enough to give Control fits, big enough to power through Midrange, and resilient enough to fuck with Aggro.
RT, it's the Phoenixes that will be giving Control fits. Put them in main.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:51 pm
by Khaospawn
Theros Standard Record improves to 16-3-0. I like having an 84% win ratio. Feels good man. Game Day playmat.... GET!
:fourhorsemenoftheapocalypse:

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:52 pm
by redthirst
But creature decks make up a lot of the current meta, hence the Phoenix SB.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:54 pm
by RedNihilist
Theros Standard Record improves to 16-3-0. I like having an 84% win ratio. Feels good man. Game Day playmat.... GET!
:toot: :dance:

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:56 pm
by JadePhoenix
I was extreamly skeptical of the BTEs in the CFB Devotion lists, but Karsden's article has convinced me to give it a shot. Since I have 0 Domri Rades and Chandra is better than Xenagos anyway, my plan is to play a mono-R version, somewhere between the CFB list and Cornelissen's.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:56 pm
by Khaospawn
But creature decks make up a lot of the current meta, hence the Phoenix SB.
The Phoenix is also what will let you beat the aggro decks. The deck gums up the ground with Ash Zealots and Boros Reckoners, which are enough in Game 1, and then nips in the air with the Phoenix. Granted, the Dargons have a bigger clock, but you can still get stuck on 3-4 lands all the same. In the Mono Red mirrors, I've learned that (typically) whoever can land their bird first has a huge edge in the match.

The Weirds come in postboard to enhance your ground wall against the Aggro decks.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:58 pm
by RaidaTheBlade
I wanna try and grab a playmat tommorrow myself, but my phoenixes, chandra, peak eruptions, and skullcracks dont come in until next week ;-;

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:16 pm
by Helios
PyroRed: Aggro heavy meta
PyRos: Midrange heavy meta
RedDevo: Aggro and Midrange mix
...PyRos is just as effective against aggro as Pyrored.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:17 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
I wanna try and grab a playmat tommorrow myself, but my phoenixes, chandra, peak eruptions, and skullcracks dont come in until next week ;-;
Sorry, haven't won the playmat, it was just FNM. Hoping to get one tomorrow. Confidence is high.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:29 pm
by Helios
Good job at FNM JS!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:33 pm
by redthirst
The thought of 4 2-drops and 8 3-drops is gross to me.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:59 pm
by Khaospawn
The thought of 4 2-drops and 8 3-drops is gross to me.
I thought so too. At first.

As it turns out, it's not so bad. It's really more like 12x2-drops, if you count Magma Jet and Lightning Strike. More often than not, I lead with a 1-drop, blast a critter with Magma Jet, and then set up my turn 3.

On paper admittedly, it looks forced. It really does. The higher land count more or less means (statistically) you will be hitting that third land drop, which is where you can start riding things out. Against Aggro, landing a Reckoner is enough to make them hesitate. Landing 2 means they ain't going nowhere. Which then means your Phoenix is free to just fly around and peck out some eyeballs.

Try it out.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:04 pm
by windstrider
PyroRed: Aggro heavy meta
PyRos: Midrange heavy meta
RedDevo: Aggro and Midrange mix
...PyRos is just as effective against aggro as PyRos.
That statement just broke what was left of my brain this morning. ;-)

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:05 pm
by Helios
Whoops, I meant PyRos is just as good v aggro as Pyrored. Thanks!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:05 pm
by Aodh
I'm actually wondering what's the best splash for R/x Devotion.

White gives you: Assemble the Legion, Aurelia's Fury, Boros Charm, Wear//Tear, Scrylands

Black Gives you: Rakdos' Return, Doom blades, Read the Bones, thoughtseize

Green gives you: Planeswalkers

Decisions...
White; it allows you to still run Boros Reckoner.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:35 pm
by Wraith223
I'm actually wondering what's the best splash for R/x Devotion.

White gives you: Assemble the Legion, Aurelia's Fury, Boros Charm, Wear//Tear, Scrylands

Black Gives you: Rakdos' Return, Doom blades, Read the Bones, thoughtseize

Green gives you: Planeswalkers

Decisions...
White; it allows you to still run Boros Reckoner.
Also Boros Charm and Glare of Heresy are great against UW control.

I am thinking going GR as Domri is a lot of fun. The version I was considering was devotion build with Shrines.

What I would not give for boil being
standard again.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:41 pm
by windstrider
Combust would be nice.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:48 pm
by Khaospawn
Combust would be nice.
I wish...

Fuck yo Ghost Dad!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:51 pm
by Wraith223
Who's your daddy now!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:52 pm
by redthirst
Combust would be nice.
I wish...

Fuck yo Ghost Dad!

You're not my real father!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:04 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I just realized Teia claims Red to be his favored color; Kiki his favored card.

We should totes invite them amirite?

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:05 pm
by redthirst
Use all the pronouns!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:06 pm
by redthirst
"Hey bro, you seem like a cool guy. Why don't you and your dick come on down to DtR and hang out?"

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:07 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I'm sure she is a great card analyst. He could be a great asset to the community. I would respect it's insight.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:15 pm
by Khaospawn
He could use his "Red-clamation Defense."

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:19 pm
by redthirst
You know, believe it or not, I'd feel bad about using transsexuality as a basis to make fun of a dude if this particular one wasn't such a complete asshole.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:22 pm
by rcwraspy
Red man, that sig of yours has me nervous as fuck when I read these forums at work. I'm afraid someone will catch it and wonder wth i'm looking at.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:23 pm
by Khaospawn
Re: New Commander stuff

I will definitely be buying the Bant Commander if only for two cards: A black bordered Basalt Monolith for Nin, and Angel for Finality for Kaalia.

And because Borrowing 100,000 Arrows is like, the coolest name for a card ever. 100,000 arrows? Then we shall fight in the shade!

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:26 pm
by lorddax
Right there with you bro. many a time I've had to resize my windows to crop out that fabulous sig.

Also, I think the reason why I got so upset at Kamigawa block, is that I was expecting something like P3K again where it was a total conversion of magic to an eastern theme vs what we got which was themes converting to magic.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:34 pm
by RaidaTheBlade
I'm not sure WHAT set to get... I wanna get the Esper one out of principle, cause I run an esper edh already, but the Naya one has a few cards I'd really like for me red/white edh e.e

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:37 pm
by rcwraspy
what does "e.e" mean?

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:39 pm
by RaidaTheBlade
It's an emoticon, just sorta means that I'm confused/out of it... The e's are supposed to represent confused eyes... -shrugs- Don't look at me, I didn't invent it, I just use it :P

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:41 pm
by rcwraspy
:confused2:

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:42 pm
by RaidaTheBlade
STOP JUDGING ME!!!!!

-runs away crying- ;P