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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:00 pm

What is OMGUS again?
What GR said. What it means is a vote that's purely retaliatory. Oftentimes, they'll come from town in response to cases, so it's not always a tell you can rely on.

Here, it's a pretty good example of the scum version. His posts don't read as if he's raging or firmly convinced I'm scum, but he had no problem putting me to L-1 anyways.

Even in his vote, here, he doesn't sound like he fully expects me to flip scum - because he knows that he won't, and he's bracing for the consequences of what that will mean for him.
vote Azrael

There, let's see how you flip then someone go find crumbs to shoot me with if I'm wrong.
You'll notice here's very
little fight or real spirit left in his posting, because at this point, he knows that he's a walking dead man, no matter what happens to me. When I flip, he dies. If I don't flip, he still dies.

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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:07 pm

A townie who was voting me wouldn't be making half-hearted cheap shots about walls of text or made-up statistics. A townie would feel convicted that he's being run up by a scum player, react strongly to that, and put a major effort or emotion into making sure that I die.

GR's mentality at this point is far more feeble:
89% of statistics are made up Azrael. Keep trying to convince people with your walls of text and scholar sounding speech. I'm not buying it anymore.
This is not the reaction of a townie who feels he's being trampled by made-up evidence. That's the reaction of someone who's falling back to attacking credibility and style, b/c they don't feel they can adequately respond to the actual substance.

And it's weakly worded. "I'm not buying it anymore". "Keep trying". These are the kinds of phrases that someone says while they'
re on their way out the door after they feel they've got the worst of an argument, trying to disengage.

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Postby Mogadishu Jones » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:48 pm

I say tbh all the time.

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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:56 pm

I say tbh all the time.
Not always a tell, but when coupled with nervousness, used in places it doesn't really belong, then I use it.

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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:56 pm

What about the rest?

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Postby Mogadishu Jones » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:05 pm

I feel like gr looks like a huge waffly fence sitter every game.

Thats my main issue.

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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:24 pm

Got an example in mind?

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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:31 pm

The last time I recall playing with GR was one of the staff mafia games. He was deliberate, cautious, but in a completely different zone and style than what I'm seeing here.

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Postby Mogadishu Jones » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:40 pm

Well he was howling mad (the gimmick). I remember howling mad as waffly I think.

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Postby imopen2 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:00 pm

You post too much, az. I also don't like G_R's play so far, but I still don't like yours.
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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:08 pm

You post too much, az. I also don't like G_R's play so far, but I still don't like yours.
Why, specifically?

And what is it that you dislike about GR's play? Is it worth a vote to you, or no?

Give us some more insight into what's going on inside there, please.

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Postby Mogadishu Jones » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:34 pm

The non az non kpaca players dont post enough would be more accurate.

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:39 pm

You post too much, az. I also don't like G_R's play so far, but I still don't like yours.
And you don't post enough. At least Az is giving us content to analyze.

What specifics don't you like? What are your thoughts?
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:40 pm

The non az non kpaca players dont post enough would be more accurate.
Hey now.

I'm here, too.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:44 pm

You know what? Fuck it.

Vote GR

That's L-2.

Imopen, you sound willing to hang him. Jones, I know you don't like him either. Put your money where your mouth is and let's get this day over with.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:46 pm

Neither of you seem to like Az either. Az is the one leading this wagon and he's gone on record about how certain he is. If he's wrong, then he's intentionally misleading and we can fix the problem tomorrow.

Only thing I'm worried about is if this is a huge bus.
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Postby Mogadishu Jones » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:02 pm

Im not so thirsty to end the day as to just jump on gr when I still see Az as a viable lynch, despite Az's vehement disagreement.

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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:04 pm

*nods* I'm in no rush. We still have a bunch of lurkers we need to pin down, and we haven't extracted claims from either me or GR.

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Postby imopen2 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:39 pm

Az, I didn't like your slip, and I didn't like your backpedaling, and I didn't like your tldr logic either.

G_R is usually pretty scummy, but I didn't like his vote on DK without addressing your slip.

DK, you don't need more posts from me to analyze because I'm town and you'll need me soon. Also, there's really no rush to end the day. Why're you in a hurry?
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:08 pm

Because I'm tired of this.

Az looks like he made a slip. GR looks like he made a slip.

We're all hung up on those two things.

One of them is getting hanged today.

We're not getting anything else out of anyone else. I don't expect that will change, even if we wait another six pages.
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Postby Mogadishu Jones » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:11 pm

You really can't say we're hung up. More like you're hung up.

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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:12 pm

Oh, that'll change alright.

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:13 pm

These two slips are the only thing anyone's been talking about.

What game are you playing?
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Postby Mogadishu Jones » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:22 pm

These two slips are the only thing anyone's been talking about.

What game are you playing?
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Postby ( G_R ) » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:30 pm

My ML games were my first ever. Also I learned to lurk moar when I play as scum, better results.
You know what? Fuck it.

Vote GR

That's L-2.

Imopen, you sound willing to hang him. Jones, I know you don't like him either. Put your money where your mouth is and let's get this day over with.
lol, CM's vote isn't even real. Are you and AZ scum buddies then?
That explains why people keep coming over for chicken nuggets

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Postby Azrael » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:33 pm

These two slips are the only thing anyone's been talking about.

What game are you playing?
Did you read any of my analysis of GR's posts besides the slip? Did you reread his original posts?

We have plenty to talk about, we just need people to get comfortable with the idea that mafia is supposed to involve reading, re-reading, and researching. Otherwise, we're just playing a fancy game of roulette.

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:38 pm

These two slips are the only thing anyone's been talking about.

What game are you playing?
Did you read any of my analysis of GR's posts besides the slip? Did you reread his original posts?

We have plenty to talk about, we just need people to get comfortable with the idea that mafia is supposed to involve reading, re-reading, and researching. Otherwise, we're just playing a fancy game of roulette.
Alright, alright, let me slow down and check over things again.

Learning process.
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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:58 pm

Dechs playing up that newbie card, despite not leaning on it in our previous two games. Sup with that?

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:01 pm

Dechs, do you think one of them is scum or both?
I don't believe they're both scum. I definitely don't want to fall into the trap that one or the other has to be scum.

I'm actually coming around to Jones' claim. In the worst case, he's lying and doesn't kill someone tomorrow and we hang him because lynch all liars is a thing.

I don't want to flavorgame this too hard, but I really do think Stardust made us all master
builders. I mean, that's cool because the game takes its shape from what we want to build, but if Jones is telling the truth, then we've got specialized builders. In fact, "Master Builder" might be this game's version of a vanilla townie.

That said, two days is a long time for a power to take to build. Three days basically means you'll never complete it before you're hanged or night killed. That said, Jones' one day to build a one shot, daykill shotgun is almost reasonable. Of course, I think he's an idiot, because he basically told the scum team to kill him tonight. Hopefully one of us is a doctor builder and can save him.
Unvote RedNihilist
Vote Dechs Kaison


I don't like your use of the word "trap", your vote-hopping, nor the fact that you're trying to direct a power role. :stubborn:

Your light-claim is not helping your case
either. :no:
Alright, so GR has three reasons to vote me here.

1. Use of the word "trap."
2. Vote hopping.
3. Directing a power role.

In reply to 1: I don't know what's wrong with using the word trap. The thought pattern that "one or the other has to be scum" is a trap. I could be wrong, in which case I go after a second town target after the first mislynch. I wasn't calling his question a trap; he seems to be acting rather defensively here as if I caught him in a trap.

In reply to 2: I had an initial vote on Az, then Jones when I didn't believe his claim, then went back to Az when I rationalized the claim. I'll admit that the vote on Jones was a knee-jerk reaction, but does a Az-Jones-Az vote pattern really admit of scum motivated "vote hopping?" Looks like exaggeration of my actions and an attempt to sling mud. (Also, while I believed Az was scum, I
thought this was an attempt to redirect a wagon and save his scum buddy).

In reply to 3: This is almost valid. Someone claiming to be able to have a daykill power on the next Day is an extreme threat to scum and an obvious night kill target. He's an even better night kill if his previously announced daykill target is actually town, because it sets up for a mislynch. Maybe I am directing a power role here. I thought I was just stating the obvious.

So, of his three reasons to vote me, two of them are highly suspect.

I'm not going to restate all of Az's case, but all of that is quite compelling as well.

Alright, I'm happy with my vote.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:02 pm

Dechs playing up that newbie card, despite not leaning on it in our previous two games. Sup with that?
Are you kidding me? Day one of our last game was nothing but "just go ahead and lynch me, I'm so new and dumb it won't matter."
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Postby ( G_R ) » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:02 pm

Wait he has two previous games? :lol:
That explains why people keep coming over for chicken nuggets

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:03 pm

I leaned so hard on the newbie card both of those games that it was practically a wheelchair.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:05 pm

Wait he has two previous games? :lol:
Yeah. One I replaced into and I played scum as. Going Postal game here.

The second one was a total clusterfuck, over in two Days with nobody dead, I was town and a total bumbling fool; I didn't really learn anything from it.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:06 pm

Second one was the WePick mafia, also here.

Look that one up. Even Stardust said I played an absolutely awful game. I was "the scummiest."
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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:15 pm

Well, shit. My memory has you playing a scum mastermind out of the gate in Gone Postal, so I assume that you're pulling strings all the time and I see everything you do as scummy.

Dat confbias doe.

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:17 pm

Well, shit. My memory has you playing a scum mastermind out of the gate in Gone Postal, so I assume that you're pulling strings all the time and I see everything you do as scummy.

Dat confbias doe.
Well, thank you for the compliment, but I think just the fact that I was a total unknown was what got me through that.

To be fair, I have decided that I want to play a better scum game than I play a town game. So, if I do things "right," you should suspect me every game I play.
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Postby ( G_R ) » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:18 pm

Was that so hard? To address my case instead of writing tomes about why a vote for someone is the scum mindset theory put in practice because look at me I'm the center of the mafia game if you're not suspicious of me you're scumscum?

In reply to your replies:

1. It gave me a bad feeling. I'm defensive about what exactly? What's that trap you're talking about? You think my question was a trap? Do you know what we do? We hunt scum. Do you know how we hunt them?

2. Vote hopping is vote hopping. It's there, everyone can see it. Who's that slinging mud? You're even admitting yourself that it was a knee-jerk reaction.

3. Let's just say I used that smiley for a reason.


Look up what barn is. ;)
That explains why people keep coming over for chicken nuggets

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Postby ( G_R ) » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:19 pm

Well, shit. My memory has you playing a scum mastermind out of the gate in Gone Postal, so I assume that you're pulling strings all the time and I see everything you do as scummy.

Dat confbias doe.
Well, thank you for the compliment, but I think just the fact that I was a total unknown was what got me through that.

To be fair, I have decided that I want to play a better scum game than I play a town game. So, if I do things "right," you should suspect me every game I play.

Should I go back to voting you? :confused:
That explains why people keep coming over for chicken nuggets

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:20 pm

Well, shit. My memory has you playing a scum mastermind out of the gate in Gone Postal, so I assume that you're pulling strings all the time and I see everything you do as scummy.

Dat confbias doe.
Well, thank you for the compliment, but I think just the fact that I was a total unknown was what got me through that.

To be fair, I have decided that I want to play a better scum game than I play a town game. So, if I do
things "right," you should suspect me every game I play.
:ohdear:

Should I go back to voting you? :confused:
Go for it. I'll flip town and it'll make my next scum game that much easier.
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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:20 pm

:gonk:

:ohdear:

Are you trying to play a better scum game currently?


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