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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:30 am

Keep Commander deck, trade Elspeth.

Yes, going to SCGLA tomorrow.

Also, this frat house REEKS of weed right now. I don't know how any work gets done around here lol.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Self Medicated » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:48 am

Also, this frat house REEKS of weed right now.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:41 am

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Postby RaidaTheBlade » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:18 am

Blargle, nobody wanted to buy the commander sets at fnm. Put the naya and jund up on ebay, and got a friend who wants to buy the grixis at $50, so I'll do that for him, cut him some slack :P

Oh, and went 4-1 at fnm, pulled a MoW out of the prize packs, and promptly sold it back to the store for a profit on the night.
Sold it then partly cause I see the value dropping a bit soon, and partly cause I don't want to own that... thing...
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:08 am

Doctor strange lives again SM. Now, off to bed as tourney starts in 9 hours and I plan on getting at least 6 hrs of sleep tonight.

May nykthos red rule supreme.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:06 am

Funny discussion gents. Elspeth is down to about $20 here last time I checked. Sell! Sell!

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Postby Helios » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:56 am

Go go LP! Best wishes to ya.

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Postby windstrider » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:04 pm

Bleargh. I dislike being awake this early for no good reason.

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:33 pm

Doctor strange lives again SM. Now, off to bed as tourney starts in 9 hours and I plan on getting at least 6 hrs of sleep tonight.

May nykthos red rule supreme.
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Postby photodyer » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:38 pm

Funny discussion gents. Elspeth is down to about $20 here last time I checked. Sell! Sell!

???

Not sure where you're finding that number, JS...the lowest BIN on ebay is $27 and MTGGoldfish has her at $31 in paper and $15.58 in MTGO.
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Postby photodyer » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:42 pm

Bleargh. I dislike being awake this early for no good reason.

Good luck today, LP.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:45 pm

Funny discussion gents. Elspeth is down to about $20 here last time I checked. Sell! Sell!

???

Not sure where you're finding that number, JS...the lowest BIN on ebay is $27 and MTGGoldfish has her at $31 in paper and $15.58 in MTGO.
Japan. The prices usually follow the trends here in time...
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Postby photodyer » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:46 pm

Doctor strange lives again SM. Now, off to bed as tourney starts in 9 hours and I plan on getting at least 6 hrs of sleep tonight.

May nykthos red rule supreme.
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Postby photodyer » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:48 pm

Funny discussion gents. Elspeth is down to about $20 here last time I checked. Sell! Sell!

???

Not sure where you're finding that number, JS...the lowest BIN on ebay is $27 and MTGGoldfish has her at $31 in paper and $15.58 in MTGO.
Japan. The prices usually follow the trends here pretty closely...

Figures...I just dropped ~$25 each for a pair for my BW deck. Of
course, someone could break out with a build this weekend and send her careening into the stratosphere again, so I'll just suck it up and be glad I didn't have to pay $30.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:51 pm

Funny discussion gents. Elspeth is down to about $20 here last time I checked. Sell! Sell!

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Not sure where you're finding that number, JS...the lowest BIN on ebay is $27 and MTGGoldfish has her at $31 in paper and $15.58 in MTGO.[/quote:
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Japan. The prices usually follow the trends here pretty closely...

Figures...I just dropped ~$25 each for a pair for my BW deck. Of course, someone could break out with a build this weekend and send her careening into the stratosphere again, so I'll just suck it up and be glad I didn't have to pay $30.
It could just be a local thing, but players here do love their fucking control decks... so I don't know...

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:04 pm

I'm playing in a GPT tomorrow. Esper and Mono-Black are really overrepresented here. I think I want to play this:

[deck]Creatures (28)
4 Ash Zealot
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Fanatic of Mogis
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Rakdos Shred-Freak

Spells (11)
3 Chained to the Rocks
4 Lightning Strike
3 Boros Charm
1 Hammer of Purphoros

Land (21)
11 Mountain
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Temple of Triumph
2 Mutavault

Sideboard (15)
2 Burning Earth
1 Chained to the Rocks
2 Chandra Pyromaster
1 Hammer of Purphoros
2 Last Breath
4 Mizzium Mortars
3 Skullcrack[/deck]

Thoughts / suggestions?

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Postby DerWille » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:34 pm

It could just be a local thing, but players here do love their fucking control decks... so I don't know...
Ya know, tell me about it. I go to a lot of different stores and I swear if someone is somewhat invested in this game they play control. There might be a midrange player or two, but it seems like at least 50% of the field is playing control even if it's shakey and there's better stuff to be played.
I'm playing in a GPT tomorrow. Esper and Mono-Black are really overrepresented here. I think I want to play this:

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Thoughts / suggestions?
I'm still a bit of a
newb at this so I don't know if I can really suggest anything, but I am curious about a couple of things.

Why 3 main board Chained to the Rocks if you expect Esper Control and Mono-Black to be over represented? I usually side out Chained to the Rocks against Esper because Obzedat, Ghost Council dodges it by blinking, Blood Baron of Vizkopa is pro-white, Aetherlingblinks, and Elspeth tokens aren't worth the time. I can see it being useful forDesecration Demon though. Are you also expecting Mono-Blue Devotion and G/x midrange to be big as well?

Is Last Breath for the Mono-Blue Devotion match up? Sort of like Chained to the Rocks 5 and 6?

I'm a little spoiled by Magma Jet, but are you sure you don't want to be running any?
It might not be best removal out there but I've had it save my ass as an end of turn 2 play for 2 to the face and fixing my draws far too many times.

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Postby LaZerBurn » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:42 pm

If the deck suits your playing style and you like it you are good to go :)

RSF is a good call as he's immune to Doom Blade and Ultimate Price but personally speaking in a field of Esper and Mono B I'd put Reckoner in the S/B. Red sources are possibly a bit light for him too at only 19. Not a fan of Fanatic in that meta either, both decks pack lots of removal so it's hard to get much value from him. I'd run more land and Chandra main deck as Phoenix recursion is powerful in those match ups.

I love Magma Jet too though I don't think it is essential in these match ups, more personal preference.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:00 pm

A deck like this hat two top 8's in today's GPT (I couldn't play because I had a Dr. Appointment).

Chained is for DD / [card:1ucql3nw]Nightveil Spectre[/card:1ucql3nw]. Esper is favourable enough that I think I can get there even with three dead cards. While Mono Black and Esper are over represented, so are G/W/x variants that aren't part of the real meta. Some JP players refuse to give up on little kid selesnya. Probably because the spent a fortune on [card:1ucql3nw]Voice of Resurgence[/card:1ucql3nw]. I've also seen a lot of Mono U. G/R seems to be underrepresented.

[card:1ucql3nw]Last Breath[/card:1ucql3nw] is for MonoU mainly, but I think it comes in vs the mirror and against VoR also maybe.

I love [card:1ucql3nw]magma jet[/card:1ucql3nw] (and just got a foil JP pair for $10) but I'd rather dome them for 4 than two. This deck isn't really meant for T5+.

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Postby magicdownunder » Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:23 pm

I'm playing in a GPT tomorrow. Esper and Mono-Black are really overrepresented here. I think I want to play this:

[deck]Creatures (28)
4 Ash Zealot
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Fanatic of Mogis
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Rakdos Shred-Freak

Spells (11)
3 Chained to the Rocks
4 Lightning Strike
3 Boros Charm
1 Hammer of Purphoros

Land (21)
11 Mountain
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Temple of Triumph
2 Mutavault

Sideboard (15)
2 Burning Earth
1 Chained to the Rocks
2 Chandra Pyromaster
1 Hammer of Purphoros
2 Last Breath
4 Mizzium Mortars
3 Skullcrack[/deck]

Thoughts / suggestions?
I think if you only face MonoBlack and Esper - you should be able to slaughter them with this list (12 haste
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Postby Wraith223 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:11 pm

Have not been on here in a while do to extreme amount of work I keep getting in, but FNM was a big win.

Played mono-black and went 5-0 with no in game losses. Winnings were a Commander deck (new set) and some packs. Yeah! :dance: I did not have to buy the Grixis deck!

Dumb play of the event- A guy playing Esper (who I just hate cause he has the people skills and general charm of Farv from Super Troopers) tried to cast Ray of Dissolution on Erebos, God of the Dead. :sneaky:
He thought he had won with that play, and when informed of indestructability; he turned a shade of red that should have been the poster child of folks who hate mono red decks. He tried to move his life
total up, and I again informed him Erebos says no. He got all upset with and threw a hissy fit claiming I was being unsportsman like. :shrug: I didn't really care cause a Grixis Commmander Deck was heading my way for small fee of $5.

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:17 pm

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Postby Nuwen » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:11 pm

Turned $2 into Chandra! :symr:

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Postby DerWille » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:08 pm

That was $2 well spent. How'd you manage it?

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Postby Link » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:17 pm

just grinded 2 man queue all the way up lol... everytime we tried a bigger event we'd run into better players and decks, and the mono red MU was really hard to win, so we just tried out 2man queues despite warning of horrible EV and went like 6-1 the first day and just grinded it up to 21 tix

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Postby Link » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:23 pm

I'm playing in a GPT tomorrow. Esper and Mono-Black are really overrepresented here. I think I want to play this:

[deck]Creatures (28)
4 Ash Zealot
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Fanatic of Mogis
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Rakdos Shred-Freak

Spells (11)
3 Chained to the Rocks
4 Lightning Strike
3 Boros Charm
1 Hammer of Purphoros

Land (21)
11 Mountain
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Temple of Triumph
2 Mutavault

Sideboard (15)
2 Burning Earth
1 Chained to the Rocks
2 Chandra Pyromaster
1 Hammer of Purphoros
2 Last Breath
4 Mizzium Mortars
3 Skullcrack[/deck]

Thoughts / suggestions?
I think the mutavaults have to go. With both Ashey and RSF y ou can't keep ANY 2 land hand with a mutavault,
and you really don't want to be staring those down thinking you wouldnt have to mull if you had just had all mountains.

That or play pyro red (YP$ can be cast off mutas) and ditch the reckoners all together since youre expecting mono black and esper.... you dont want to be on the minotaur plan unless youre facing midrange.

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Postby DarthStabber » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:34 pm

I'm playing in a GPT tomorrow. Esper and Mono-Black are really overrepresented here. I think I want to play this:

Thoughts / suggestions?
My local meta as of last week was mosly esper, MBD, RUG, and gruul ramp, and I had a very good performance with

[Deck]
Dudes
4 firedrinker satyr
4 rakdos cackler
4 rakdos shred freak
4 firefist striker
4 ash zealot
4 chanda's phoenix
3 fanic of mogis

Non-dudes
2 hammer of purphoros
4 magma jet
4 lightning strike

Land
2 mutavault
21 mountain

Board
4 boros reckoner
1 mountain
3 flames of the firebrand
3 mizzium mortars
2 electrickery
2 skullcrack
[/deck]

The main idea was to maximize speed and consistency. The deck is pretty much preboarded for esper (which some people in
the area always play, good or bad), and it works fairly well against MBD too. In all the times i've shuffled it up in tournaments I have had to mulligan twice, once against gruul ramp, once against BW midrange, and both were one landers. It's never lost to either MBD or esper, so just something to consider.
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Postby DerWille » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:04 pm

What match up do you to 24 land for?

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Postby photodyer » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:07 pm

Just tried to watch SCGLA...can't do it. Cedric even makes PSully intolerable, and that's a pure shame.
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Postby Link » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:29 pm

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Postby Khaospawn » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:32 pm

What I wouldn't give for just a glimpse of Kincey....
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He'll give you more than just the glimpse.

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Postby Self Medicated » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:54 pm

Watching Samuel Garcia with those sunglasses on. WTF? This isn't poker. Maybe he has a hangover?
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Postby DerWille » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:01 pm

PSully's Space Invaders joke was great. This guy is like playing his cards in Leyton's board.


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