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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:34 pm
by LaZerBurn
Even if it wasn't incredibly involved to set up a paid subscription, I wouldn't want to do it. The worst thing about SCG is their ridiculous "premium" content, which says a lot because they're actively killing constructed.
I only think the Premium is crap because the content is crap - if it was excellent I'd have no problem paying for it. What do you mean by 'actively killing constructed'?

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:46 pm
by LaZerBurn
I'm not trying to be argumentative here but I'm hugely missing the point, sorry :)

How is SCG responsible for the price of Mutavault? I agree MTG isn't a cheap game to play but that's the simple economics of supply and demand isn't it? WOTC makes most of the best Constructed cards rare to drive the MTG related economy etc etc. Modern cards are even more expensive and GP Richmond seemed pretty well supported so I don't see how card prices are killing constructed.

Neither am I familiar enough with the running of SCG tourneys to be able to understand how they are damaging the game. Is it just SCG tourneys that are damaging the game? As far as I know the game is more popular than ever so I guess I'm just missing something here - I've only been back playing for a few months though and I only play on MTGO so maybe that's why.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:17 pm
by LaZerBurn
Thank you :) That makes sense :)

The distribution method you propose sounds good to me; I'd play paper too if it was that cheap. I can only assume that they don't do this as the current method is more profitable (and at the end of the day this is all that they care about).

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:35 pm
by Jonnymagic
I'm still debating if I can afford a modern deck to play for MOCS season 3. @LP were you going to play that robots deck MDU has? That will kind of determine what direction I need to go in.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:38 pm
by Mcdonalds
@maverick so basically make magic an lcg?

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:43 pm
by Pedros
Btw I fucked up. Theros boosters now for 2,8, still going down. Al lbecause sealed are 3/3 not 4/2 and payout is 4/2 or 7/4 or 4/1 in 8 mans....

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:28 pm
by LaZerBurn
Hope they go back up to 3

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:46 pm
by imopen2
In a sealed daily with a solid WG pool with polukranos. Won round 1 in about 5 mins. Jedi knight is here too

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:47 pm
by imopen2
Just play some sealed dailies and win more packs :)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:55 pm
by Kaitscralt
I dumped my Theros packs when I saw the decline in value

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:23 pm
by imopen2
Well I just fucking 0-3'd myself and idiot even understand how it happened. Lost my dude and my dauntless onslaught and he kept his guy after I somehow clicked his guy...but I'm positive I didn't

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:52 pm
by imopen2
This is why I'm not good at magic. Stupid mistakes like that cost me a match

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:54 pm
by imopen2
Stomped him game 2 and then game 3 he had conscriptor with 3 things to trigger it. Pretty sure I would have won game 1 without that misclick x_x

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:08 pm
by hamfactorial
Imopen:

If you learned something from the mistake and don't repeat it, it's a worthwhile lesson. I've punted matches through misunderstanding triggers or doing combat math wrong, but it makes me better if I identify my mistake and play tighter in subsequent matches.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:17 pm
by Kaitscralt
Misclicking doesn't make you bad at mtg, it makes you bad at mtgo

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:20 pm
by hamfactorial
Playing optimally on MTGO is its own separate skill set. You can lose online in all sorts of spectacular new ways.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:40 pm
by imopen2
Yea, it's still frustrating tho.

Anyways, just won round 3. Game 3 I won on turn 6 with me at 29 and him at -12

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:15 pm
by magicdownunder
Just hold out until the last part THS Block get released (That was the original plan no?) we missed the boat when BnG was first released and he price for THS was 3.3 true but once the P.3 gets released and the cash out is 3/3/3 BnG will drop while THS will rise (like with the last set).

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:40 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Mdu, I pass the rites to robots onto Johnny.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:02 pm
by Jonnymagic
I heart you LP <3.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:48 pm
by Pedros
Image

http://imgur.com/HA4rgLg

What would you guys do here? Try to eat Satyr and get blown by chained (he didnt play a single one yet) or cast Knight eot?

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:50 pm
by Pedros
And up to 36 points.

I noticed sth strange. I have 13 qps season 1, 30 season 2, 35 season 3 and 36 season 4. Should have 114 qps total for this year, I know it isnt updated daily but I have 104 right now on website...

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:52 pm
by magicdownunder
ok, I'll set it up :smileup:

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:35 am
by Pedros
What are you going to set up?

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:53 am
by imopen2
I would play the knight eot. I don't think it is worth giving him an extra few outs (shock would be his only one if you play it eot), and if he doesn't have it then you would blow him out.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:54 am
by magicdownunder
And up to 36 points.

I noticed sth strange. I have 13 qps season 1, 30 season 2, 35 season 3 and 36 season 4. Should have 114 qps total for this year, I know it isnt updated daily but I have 104 right now on website...
Your correct (seems like Wizards recording system is bad) I'm missing 12 QPs, I'm guessing its the QP we earned during website instability.

Also when I said I'll set it up, I meant the lending Robots to Johnny Magic, he is a new comer so I need permission from MisterMat since about $107 worth of cards belong to him while the other $300'ish belong too me (since it isn't chump change I can't just lend it out the stuff which doesn't belong to me).

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:13 am
by hamfactorial
Image

http://imgur.com/HA4rgLg

What would you guys do here? Try to eat Satyr and get blown by chained (he didnt play a single one yet) or cast Knight eot?
I'd make a knight EOT to draw out the Shock, if he has it.

Trying to block with the knight means you can get screwed with a Shock or a Chained. The EOT knight play only hoses you with Shock.

If he lets you untap with the knight, Ajani +1 to see if it resolves. If it does, cast Courage on it and win the game with your 5 toughness vigilant lifelinker.

If he's super next level and holds the Shock for your knight on your turn, you don't get 2-for-1ed and lose
your Courage.

Also, you could draw a 2nd creature and be in even better shape.

If it all works out, he's on a 2 turn clock.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:47 am
by magicdownunder
Anyone here farm Momir Premier? it seems like it has EXCELLENT EV.

It cost $10 to get in (usually only 33 people queue for it *if it fires...*) and the cash out is:
• 1st: 16 Theros, 8 Born of the Gods boosters, and 5 QPs
• 2nd: 10 Theros and 5 Born of the Gods boosters, and 4 QPs
• 3rd-4th: 8 Theros and 4 Born of the Gods boosters, and 2 QPs
• 5th-8th: 4 Theros, 2 Born of the Gods boosters, and 1 QP
• 9th-16th: 2 Theros and 1 Born of the Gods boosters

This seems to be the case for Pauper as well, look like its time to run MUC (though everybody is running MUC...).

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:38 am
by LaZerBurn
Isn't there a deck that destroys MonoU Control in Pauper? Something G maybe?

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:59 am
by zemanjaski
Affinity is it's only matchup worse than 50%.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:13 pm
by LaZerBurn
:( And well done! :)

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:30 pm
by Pedros
Guys why stressing so much over modern right now? Arent mocs dead?

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:53 pm
by Jedi_Knight
In a sealed daily with a solid WG pool with polukranos. Won round 1 in about 5 mins. Jedi knight is here too
first theros daily ever. played limited after half a year so I just slapped what seemed good and ended with weird WG build. switched to rg in second games - Akroan Conscriptor is a house! went 1-0, 1-1 and 2-1 and then had to drop out due to having to go to pub.

also the +3/+3 trample draw as many cards as you do damage to a player is awesome. :)

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:10 pm
by magicdownunder
Guys why stressing so much over modern right now? Arent mocs dead?
MOCS are dead (for now), I just like Modern - I feel like its one of the more rewarding formats when it comes to sequencing.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:30 pm
by Pedros
I would say most rewarding format for you skill and experience with a deck.

Have to get something going in this format, but boosters are soo low that cant afford goyfs without unloading all of them in this shitty prices.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:34 pm
by magicdownunder
I would say most rewarding format for you skill and experience with a deck.

Have to get something going in this format, but boosters are soo low that cant afford goyfs without unloading all of them in this shitty prices.
I feel ya man, we missed the bus by 2 days - that said give it until the 3rd set the prices will go up 100%

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P.S. Jonnymagic taught me to fear our Robot overloads in Modern, Three brutal crushing game (6-1) (I only beat him once, gah I don't remember Robots being this hard).

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:40 pm
by LaZerBurn
Another 2 QP 2-0 Vs BW, 2-0 Vs Esper 2-1 Vs Esper

LaZer's Wallet :5rupee: :5rupee: :1rupee:

P.S. Last round was especially pleasing as I offered the split but he wanted the QP :)

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:40 pm
by hamfactorial
MDU:

What deck were you running that Affinity beat up so badly? I've played against it a lot, I can probably help.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:53 pm
by imopen2
In a sealed daily with a solid WG pool with polukranos. Won round 1 in about 5 mins. Jedi knight is here too
first theros daily ever. played limited after half a year so I just slapped what seemed good and ended with weird WG build. switched to rg in second games - Akroan Conscriptor is a house! went 1-0, 1-1 and 2-1 and then had to drop out due to having to go to pub.

also the +3/+3 trample draw as many cards as you do damage to a player is awesome. :)
Yea,
those are two of the best limited cards in BNG. The conscriptor does things that should never be possible. The best is stealing your opponent's attacking creature to trade with one of their other attacking creatures

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:13 pm
by LaZerBurn
Anyone here have MonoB Devo on MTGO? I want to test against to ascertain if T1 TS, T2 Removal, T3Spectre/Connections, T4 Demon, T5 Gary really happens every single game or if there are occasions when it doesn't :)