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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:15 am
by magicdownunder
@Kimbra: The problem with Grim is that he is really hit or miss (same with Vexing Devil) - excellent vs creature based decks horrible vs removal heavy or combo decks.

@Lazer: I have the match recorded but not the comment - with v4 I find it difficult to know when people are chatting with me while I'm in-game (its like that GW Token MU I uploaded where I only notice he was raging RIGHT at the end (which maybe why he kept on ragging)).

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:05 am
by Khaospawn
Won a 8-Man tourney beating Living End, Junk, and Naya Kiki-Jiki - Restoration Angel /Scapeshift. I dunno what to fucking call that last deck..

[deck]
Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
2 Flames of the Blood Hand
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
16 Mountain


Sideboard
2 Cryoclasm
2 Peak Eruption
3 Relic of Progenitus
4 Searing Blood
4 Smash to Smithereens
[/deck]
I like it - I shall give it a shot today

(1) Though I want to run 2 Magma Jet because running 8x 3cc LD spells makes me uncomfortable with only 20 lands.

(2) EDIT: You know that feeling you get when you beat Soul Sisters with 2x Searing blood and Searing Blaze, and he PM you with rage post match? Priceless ;-)

(3) EDIT2: Why doesn't Boil see play?
(1) 8x 3cc on 20 lands is about the most you can get away with. With that said, Magma Jet is a fine card and when I was running it, I was actually using it to send excess lands away.

(2) FUCK. YES! You da man, sir! :thumbsup:

(3) 2 reasons: It costs 4 and it doesn't deal damage.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:00 am
by magicdownunder
I think running 8 creatures seems solid, I'm going to try running 3x Shard Volley and 1x MJ in its place (each time I draw MJ and lose due to 1 life I'll mark it down :yes:).

P.S. My grinder buddies tell me playing Modern SE with burn is a death trap since so much **** flies down there which would never make G3-4 in a DE, but after reading your reports Khaos - I don't thinks its all that bad anything more so thanks for clearing that up :)

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:16 am
by Khaospawn
Looking forward to reading the report! :)

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:08 pm
by magicdownunder
:tears: I went 2-1 losing the finals vs RBw Burn due too greed, the games I played (affinity, scapeshift and burn) Vexing Devil would of been better then Shard Volley (with one exception) - I'll still keep testing it :yes:

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:41 pm
by Khaospawn
I lost to a Rbw deck the other day. He had the triple guide opener on the play and then in game 2 he landed 2 spellskites on me. What's a guy to do? :shrug:

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:48 pm
by magicdownunder
Ouch, was it curryvore?

In my case I threw a easy game away, I banked on my epic land drawing skills and used an early fetch (with Searing blaze in hand) even though I KNEW he had creatures because I wanted to LD him (had I waited or just taken the 4 from Devil it would of been gg) :D

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:52 pm
by Kimbra
So, after reading all these reports, I have to assume that the RBw version is better than ours monored in the "mirror"?

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:55 pm
by magicdownunder
MonoR with Dragon Claw would turn the MU into a cakewalk - I'm not sure about Khaos but me losing that MU (with the LD list) was because I was bad rather then the deck itself - if you watch the video when I upload it next week you'll most likely end up screaming at the screen at my horrible choices.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:32 pm
by Khaospawn
It was curryvore! I take it that you've tangled with him?

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:36 pm
by Khaospawn
Agreed on using Dragon's Claw. I'm tempted to switch out the Relics for it, but I have been encountering a lot of GY based combo decks - Krark Clan Ironworks, Living End, Goryo's Vengeance, Storm, etc. Plus, I really value the Relic in the Pod and Rock matches. I think I'll just take my chances with the mirror and just do my best to outplay my opponent, plus I know that the Rbw Burn decks hurt themselves a lot with their manabase, which makes my job a little bit easier.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:51 am
by Blackhound
Thunderous Wrath as a 1 of ?

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:19 am
by Khaospawn
:no:

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:20 am
by Khaospawn
It'll never be cast if it's in your opener and it'd be a shame just to mulligan away an otherwise playable hand just because of that card.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:22 am
by Aodh
Well you wouldn't actually mulligan the hand because of that card because if it's playable, you can't expect more out of actual 6...

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:10 am
by Khaospawn
Don't let me stop you from playing it...

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:31 am
by GoblinWarchief
Reason not to play thunderous wrath : we want to end the game by turn 4-6 , so we almost never draw more cards than we have in our opening hand. Since Thunderous Wrath is a card you don't want to have in the opener and you want to draw later, it is more likely that it will be there clunking your starter 7 than you will find it in the next 4-5 cards you draw.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:00 pm
by hamfactorial
T Wrath is turrrrrrible

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:26 pm
by magicdownunder
I tried playing curry the other day, its quite good but I hate that feeling of only having 1 route (race).

I still love Levy's LD list and Hock's Burn list the most, not sure which one I believe is better though.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:24 pm
by Khaospawn
That curry list...yeah, I'm not a fan either.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:35 pm
by magicdownunder
That curry list...yeah, I'm not a fan either.
That said the Refraction Trap and Lingering Souls are really sick :) - I think the deck NEEDS 4x Bridge so you have some hope vs aggro and midrange - no idea how curryvore does it.

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Levy's TCG article - http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11956

Levy's Burn Modern SE Report 7361123
G1 Robots vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123
[url=https://www&#
46;youtube.com/watch?v=zuhNB20g6e4&list=UUOED7KvwLH_yozWSu-QWADg]G2 Scapeshift vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123[/url]
G3 RBw Burn (Curry) vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123

Reference:

[deck=Levy's Burn edited by MDU]Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
1 Magma Jet
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
4 Scalding Tarn
12 Mountain

Sideboard
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Cryoclasm
2 Peak Eruption
2 Relic of Progenitus
4 Searing Blood
4 Smash to Smithereens[/deck]

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:42 pm
by Khaospawn
I keep losing in 8-Mans to G/R Tron and Scapeshift with Levy's LD list. You'd think those decks would be extremely favorable for me, but Tron keeps playing Karn and Wurmcoils on me T3/T4 and I seem to have the worst draws against Scapeshift - once they're able to cast Cryptic, I seem to hit the floods....

Anyway, trying something a little different right now. One thing that's been bothering me is that Molten Rain is a sorcery and I think I want to be in a position where almost everything I can cast is an instant. Just slapped this together:

[deck]
Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Searing Blood
4 Skullcrack
4 Flames of the Blood Hand

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
16 Mountain


Sideboard
4 Molten Rain
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Forked Bolt
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Combust
3 Smash to Smithereens
[/deck]
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I just entered an 8-Man and played against what I'm assuming is a Hocking Burn list. The guy rage quit in Game 2 when I landed a Dragon's Claw and I had Searing cards for days.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:12 pm
by Khaospawn
Aaaaaaaand lost to a U/R deck because I mulled into oblivion in both games. Time to pack it in for the day. :/

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:54 am
by magicdownunder
I keep losing in 8-Mans to G/R Tron and Scapeshift with Levy's LD list. You'd think those decks would be extremely favorable for me, but Tron keeps playing Karn and Wurmcoils on me T3/T4 and I seem to have the worst draws against Scapeshift - once they're able to cast Cryptic, I seem to hit the floods....
I mention this before but Levy list is weak vs Combo (esp. U Combo), it thrive against fair decks but vs unfair list they usually only need to hit T3-4 to win so holding the counter for LD isn't difficult.
Last Time
Levy's TCG article - http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11956

Levy's Burn Modern
SE Report 7361123

G1 Robots vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123
G2 Scapeshift vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123
G3 RBw Burn (Curry) vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123

Reference:

[deck=Levy's Burn edited by MDU]Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
1 Magma Jet
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
4 Scalding Tarn
12 Mountain

Sideboard
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Cryoclasm
2 Peak Eruption
2 Relic of Progenitus
4 Searing Blood
4 Smash to
Smithereens[/deck]
Levy's Burn Modern SE Report 7361112
G1 Soul Sisters vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361112
G2 Pod vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361112
G3 Split

I'm thinking about going back to Rg because Burn is currently sitting on 2nd as the the deck with the most finishes online :sweat:.

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:32 pm
by Khaospawn
You were just splashing green for Revelry, right?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:38 pm
by magicdownunder
You were just splashing green for Revelry, right?
Yep, sometimes even one Back to Nature for the extra lols

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:43 pm
by Khaospawn
MDU, are you seeing a lot of Tron in your events?

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:10 pm
by Khaospawn
Took down an SE beating 2 R/G Tron decks and a U/R Delver deck with this:

[deck]
Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
2 Flames of the Blood Hand
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
16 Mountain


Sideboard
4 Searing Blood
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Cryoclasm
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Pyrite Spellbomb
2 Smash to Smithereens
1 Guerrilla Tactics
[/deck]

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:34 pm
by hamfactorial
:frog: all glory to the Eidolon

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:38 pm
by Khaospawn
Little bear is a fuckin' baller.

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:16 am
by Khaospawn
Just got smacked silly by T2 Ensoul Artifact on a Darksteel Citadel + Cranial Plating in the Affinity match. Fuck that shit. :flame:

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:53 am
by magicdownunder
MDU, are you seeing a lot of Tron in your events?
I havn't been playing much modern as of late - but no I havn't seen them much since tron earn the name GP Fail all those months ago.

Your biggest threat is Wurm, so just pack some smash and kill them during the attack step it should buy you enough time to finish the job (this MU is much harder for RDW since the Wurm is just a wall and a half).

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:07 pm
by magicdownunder
I queued up for a Modern SE and accidentally entered with my standard burn deck - I ended up going 1-1 playing against Junk twice (I lost because I failed to draw lands).

Anyhow - perhaps a port could work out, we could play Shrine and Chandra Phoenix for CA while we focus on wearing away on them slowly with cards like Lighting Helix, Searing Blaze/Blood, Fork bolt, Lighting Bolt. Rift Bolt and so on.

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:12 pm
by Toddington
Wow, Shrine would be so good in standard burn! Probably wouldn't need to play white in Modern though, unless you want Path? Would you still jam Pyromancer?

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:09 pm
by Khaospawn
Pffft, I love signing up for a Daily and having to play Hexproof Round 1. A 6/6 lifelinker ended me Game 1. In Game 2, I kept a hand with 3 Skullcracks. He played a Leyline. Auto-concede.

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:54 pm
by Khaospawn
Went 3-1 in a Daily with this:

[deck]
Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift Bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
2 Flames of the Blood Hand
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
16 Mountain


Sideboard
2 Cryoclasm
2 Peak Eruption
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Pyrite Spellbomb
2 Searing Blood
3 Smash to Smithereens
[/deck]

R1: Hexproof Loss 0-2

R2: UR Delver Win 2-1 (Received my first condescending chat after beating him :evillol: )

R3: UWR Control Win 2-0

R4: GR Tron Win 2-0

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:08 pm
by Khaospawn
I want your guys' thoughts on Vulshok Refugee. Mirror tech over Dragon's Claw?

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:10 pm
by Platypus
You can probably get another condescending chat by using it, so go for it...

:frog:

:scrump:

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:11 pm
by Khaospawn
You can probably get another condescending chat by using it, so go for it...

:frog:

:scrump:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: YES!!!

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:17 pm
by Platypus
Btw...how important are those VDs? I really like the look of the deck, but I'm missing those (and a few other cheap cards).