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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:00 pm
by Thrillho
that card isn't even good.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:01 pm
by Thrillho
yanni i think the char you were waiting for has 2 toughness instead of dealing 2 damage to you when you cast it. is that ok or were you really intent on taking damage from burn spells?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:01 pm
by Checkbox
I am think the 4/2 is pretty unplayable... That's the boon satyr, right?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:02 pm
by Checkbox
He may have been intent on burning players and flying creatures

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:04 pm
by Thrillho
yes that is the creature and while i don't know if it is actually good like is going to become a reasonable card in constructed, having a creature that dodges mizzium mortars, deals 4 damage to an attacking creature, and deals surprise 4 damage to an opponent, or pumps a creature you control (at instant speed) and still leaves you with a creature if the creature you're pumping dies are a lot of modes for just one card.

it also works with domri and is a flash pump spell in addition to being a creature, similar to ghor clan rampager and there's no way you can tell me that card is bad because it's pretty insane.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:04 pm
by Thrillho
He may have been intent on burning players and flying creatures
i don't know if you've heard of the attack step but this creature has the ability to engage in it.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:05 pm
by DroppinSuga
Not a bad idea.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:06 pm
by Checkbox
Yes but that's a good deal worse than going to the dome, but you're right that card does have infini-modes that are not apparent.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:07 pm
by Checkbox
Immediately apparent*

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:07 pm
by Thrillho
boon satyr is essentially:
1GG
instant
deal 4 damage to target attacking creature or put a 4/2 haste creature onto the battlefield under your control
kicker 2
if you paid the kicker cost, you may instead put a +4/+2 counter on target creature. if that creature dies, put a 4/2 creature onto the battlefield under your control.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:08 pm
by DroppinSuga
I found them fairly apparent :shrug:

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:08 pm
by Thrillho
Yes but that's a good deal worse than going to the dome, but you're right that card does have infini-modes that are not apparent.
then you are not reading the text printed on the card.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:10 pm
by Checkbox
I've spent very little time reading the text on theros cards, yes

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:13 pm
by Thrillho
it also interacts well with other cards you are playing in green decks that just vary depending on the colors you combine with it.

it evolves experiment one, it pairs well in either mode with ghor clan rampager (and as an enchantment with other trample creatures), it draws you a card when revealed with domri, it voltrons onto a monstrous watchwolf, it plays well against bounce in either mode.

its downside is largely that it dies to a single magma jet or a block from a burning tree emissary, which are two really stupid things to be able to die to in standard.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:14 pm
by DroppinSuga
Sweet, sweet Magma Jet. :love:

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:19 pm
by Thrillho
i actively dislike firedrinker satyr but $1.25 for a card that is almost certainly an auto-include in mono-red or Rg when stromkirk noble had a similar distinction and was never lower than $3 for 90% of its time in standard is a scoreboard count that doesn't lie

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:20 pm
by Thrillho
wait yanni what about a char that does 4-6 damage, but deals anywhere from 2-8 damage to you but also it only costs 1 mana is that more what you were looking for

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:21 pm
by Thrillho
Sweet, sweet Magma Jet. :love:
magma jet is the actual best it's just that if you cost more mana than it and die to a single magma jet then that's a really big check in your negative category

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:21 pm
by Thrillho
wait yanni what about a char that does 4-6 damage, but deals anywhere from 2-8 damage to you but also it only costs 1 mana is that more what you were looking for
sometimes you also kill a 5/5 when it deals a lot of damage to you

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:23 pm
by Kaitscralt
So I left my lights on and my car is dead at the bus stop, waiting for my girlfriend to come so we can jump it

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:26 pm
by Checkbox
waiting for my girlfriend to come so we can jump it
;)

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:19 pm
by Khaospawn
Sweet, sweet Magma Jet. :love:
Sweet lemonade. Mmm, sweet lemonade. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5InItJmJEkY

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:22 pm
by Khaospawn
i actively dislike firedrinker satyr but $1.25 for a card that is almost certainly an auto-include in mono-red or Rg when stromkirk noble had a similar distinction and was never lower than $3 for 90% of its time in standard is a scoreboard count that doesn't lie
It went up already? I bought mine at $0.30 each.

I'm still on the fence on how great it will be. It's no Stromkirk Noble and it blows when it gets hit by a Mortars. But still, being able to attack into the hexproof plant is pretty solid.

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:25 am
by DroppinSuga
I'm ready for love. Oh baby, I'm ready for love.

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:34 am
by Yannaria
wait yanni what about a char that does 4-6 damage, but deals anywhere from 2-8 damage to you but also it only costs 1 mana is that more what you were looking for
sometimes you also kill a 5/5 when it deals a lot of damage to you
what about a card that doesn't suck loads of cock
how hard is that wotc

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:34 am
by Kazekirimaru
wait yanni what about a char that does 4-6 damage, but deals anywhere from 2-8 damage to you but also it only costs 1 mana is that more what you were looking for
sometimes you also kill a 5/5 when it deals a lot of damage to you
what about a card that doesn't suck loads of cock
how hard is that wotc
Really hard nowadays.

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:34 am
by Yannaria
I am also a fan of boon styr as my hope for the rancor of the set

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:35 am
by Yannaria
wait yanni what about a char that does 4-6 damage, but deals anywhere from 2-8 damage to you but also it only costs 1 mana is that more what you were looking for
sometimes you also kill a 5/5 when it deals a lot of damage to you
imagine the rub ins when someone mizzium mortars your firedrinker styr

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:37 am
by Yannaria
like I don't see why you can't just splash black and play Deathrite Shaman which doesn't have to attack and lets all your burn spells have a flashback of B to do 2 damage

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:42 am
by Yannaria
like it can't kill creatures but it's basically better than grim lavamancer in that deck

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:42 am
by Yannaria
did theroes get the RB scry land if not you get 8 dual lands 4 of which always ETB tapped but hey 8 black sources should be enough to reliably cast 4 cards

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:44 am
by DroppinSuga
No RB dual in Theros sadly.

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:45 am
by Yannaria
does playing black ruin your guild

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:46 am
by Yannaria
clan whatever

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:47 am
by DroppinSuga
Yup. If you play anything other then RDW, you are hung.

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:47 am
by Yannaria
okay well come back to me while your play fire drinker satyr instead of splashing black for one of the best one drops ever

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:49 am
by Yannaria
like if this were goblin guide it'd be a different discussion but this is just jackal pup but maybe a little better.

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:50 am
by DroppinSuga
If you're talking about Deathrite Shaman, he really doesn't fit into an aggro shell,

I think you need to get drunk, you're getting a bit hostile.

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:54 am
by Yannaria
If you're talking about Deathrite Shaman, he really doesn't fit into an aggro shell,

I think you need to get drunk, you're getting a bit hostile.
don't give a fuck about your aggro shell, you don't lose a fifth of your life if someone mortars your Deathrite Shaman. Shaman gives you mad graveyard gas and lets you play sphinx's revelation trumping Ebros

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:55 am
by Yannaria
like he won't give you free mana, or gain you life, but he's doing the only thing he needs to do, and that is turning all your Lighting Strikes into 1RB 5 damage to the dome or 3 to a creature and 2 to a player