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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:01 am
by LP, of the Fires
I saw it. I'm not real big on either trading post or Haunted P, so I have no real constructive criticism to add.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:04 am
by zemanjaski
I am going to test it this week with Isaac, will know whether or not I want to put real effort into it after that.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:07 am
by LP, of the Fires
I'm gonna be working on Orzhov agro. Ben Stark told me it's the best deck in the format and since I like the deck a lot, I didn't need much convincing to pick it up and play around with it.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:17 am
by Alex
I have been literally sleeping at my desk half the work day. Why couldn't I fucking sleep last night.
Comfortable chair?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:31 am
by redthirst
LP, what's Orzhov Aggro looking like?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:41 am
by LP, of the Fires
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/a ... c14/stand5

I was number 1 for a little while at least >_>

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:43 am
by LP, of the Fires
4 Soldier of the Pantheon
4 Boros Elite
3 Daring Skyjek
2 Spear of Heliod
4 Mutavault
6 Plains
4 Temple of Silence
4 Godless Shrine
4 Orzhov Charm
4 Swamp
4 Banisher Priest
4 Xathrid Necromancer
4 Tormented Hero
2 Thoughtseize
4 Precinct Captain
2 Imposing Sovereign
1 Orzhov Guildgate
SB: 2 Doom Blade
SB: 3 Sin Collector
SB: 2 Thoughtseize
SB: 2 Lifebane Zombie
SB: 2 Duress
SB: 2 Renounce the Guilds
SB: 2 Dark Betrayal

Basic list. White weenie without brave the elements.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:55 am
by Valdarith
Tormented Hero? On eight untapped black sources? Ugh.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:01 am
by LP, of the Fires
Hero is infinitely better then dryad militant by virtue of being a human and not being multicolored and/or green(tidebinder mage, soldier of the pantheon).

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:09 am
by Khaospawn
*Khaos is secretly glad that Z doesn't want his opinion on U/B, and somewhat feels like he dodged a bullet. *
Me too...let's stick to goblins and burning things shall we?
I'm actually playing Monday Night Modern using the B/g Infect list Alex posted in the Content Suppository thread, card for card. I just dismantled American Control 2-0 in about 10 minutes. Vat-Mommy + Pike is a wrecking ball.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:12 am
by Valdarith
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:13 am
by Valdarith
I also realize the wording there leaves a lot of room for interpretation. LOL oops.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:17 am
by Kazekirimaru
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:18 am
by Khaospawn
Kaze, what the hell...

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:18 am
by LP, of the Fires
Well, considering I got approval from the Best Player in the World I'll side with his opinion and my own intuition :D

Also the mana is surprisingly fine.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:19 am
by Khaospawn
I have been literally sleeping at my desk half the work day. Why couldn't I fucking sleep last night.
Comfortable chair?
Dreams of Drownyard danced in his head.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:37 am
by Kazekirimaru
Kaze, what the hell...
That was a total accident.

I only meant to quote three times.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:38 am
by Kazekirimaru
Smart phones are stupid.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:23 am
by TBuzzsaw
For the life of me I can't figure out where the best fit for Brimaz is going to be for now. I tried WW, Selesnya tokens and aggro, Naya, etc etc etc. Until the full spoilers comes out I think he's great in UW control so far.

I wish I can run a WW list, but all the bandwagoners are going to jump onto Mono Black and all those removals makes me a sad panda.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:47 am
by Lightning_Dolt
W/x weenie.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:22 am
by zemanjaski
Updated to this:

[deck]Dimir Artifact Control[/deck]

Artifacts
1 Elixir of Immortality
2 Haunted Platemail
2 Prophetic Prism
3 Ratchet Bomb
3 Trading Post

Instants
2 Bile Blight
2 Devour Flesh
3 Dissolve
1 Essence Scatter
3 Hero's Downfall
2 Opportunity
3 Syncopate
1 Ultimate Price

Sorceries
2 Read the Bones
4 Thoughtseize

Lands
4 Dimir Guildgate
4 Mutavault
4 Temple of Deceit
4 Watery Grave

7 Swamp
3 Island
[/deck]

Sideboard will require extensive testing obviously.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:05 am
by Helios
Phenax was spoiled. 3UB, god text, 4/7, Creatures you control have "T: opponent mills X cards, where x is this creature's toughness." Might say "target player" instead of opp.

Whelming Wave. 2UU. Sorcery. Return all creatures except Krakens, Leviathans, Serpants, and Octopuses.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:08 am
by LP, of the Fires
It's target.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:10 am
by photodyer
Phenax's mill ability requires you to have creatures in play:

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Massive synergy with Consuming Aberration, even if only for casual play.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:13 am
by NerdBoyWonder
Honestly getting tired of UB only being about mill.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:14 am
by Helios
Wrexial was a shining beacon of Cool UB Cards, and it's been all downhill from there.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:15 am
by TBuzzsaw
Hilariously enough, I can see Phenax working out really well in BU Devotion with Pack Rats, Desecration Demon, and Gary as an unnecessary win more.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:16 am
by Calamity
Why the fucking FUCK is UB always mill nowadays?

I'm actually upset about this

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:19 am
by Valdarith
OMG let's jam Hover Barrier, Wall of Frost, and Murmuring Phantasm together with Phenax and call it a deck!

Seriously. What in the actual fuck is this?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:21 am
by photodyer
Green card is actually not horrible if a bit narrow...I love the concept that your 1-drops don't have to be useless draws in the late game, but the damned Heroic trigger requirement is one too many hoops to line up for anything but an enchantment deck.

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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:23 am
by DerWille
Green card is actually not horrible if a bit narrow...I love the concept that your 1-drops don't have to be useless draws in the late game, but the damned Heroic trigger requirement is one too many hoops to line up for anything but an enchantment deck.

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If heroic ever becomes a thing (I hope it does), I think it's going to be some combination of heroic, bestow, and hexproof. The bestow creatures feel like they're the ones to tie the deck together. In the worst case, you play them as a creature and beat face.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:25 am
by zemanjaski
Man, Phenax sucks.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:29 am
by zemanjaski
Updated to this:

[deck]Dimir Artifact Control[/deck]

Artifacts
1 Elixir of Immortality
2 Haunted Plate Mail
2 Prophetic Prism
3 Ratchet Bomb
3 Trading Post

Instants
2 Bile Blight
2 Devour Flesh
3 Dissolve
1 Essence Scatter
3 Hero's Downfall
2 Opportunity
3 Syncopate
1 Ultimate Price

Sorceries
2 Read the Bones
4 Thoughtseize

Lands
4 Dimir Guildgate
4 Mutavault
4 Temple of Deceit
4 Watery Grave

7 Swamp
3 Island
[/deck]

Sideboard will require extensive testing obviously.
2-0 vs Esper Control
2-0 vs MBC

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:34 am
by photodyer
Man, Phenax sucks.
Wizards is all but screaming "we printed this to create a reason to play Lazav", but...bleh.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:41 am
by Khaospawn
Man, Phenax sucks.
Not the God that you deserve. But maaaaaaaybe the God that you need.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:53 am
by DarthStabber
Vanguard of Brimaz isn't bad. A bigger akroan crusader with vigilance on himself and the tokens.

Phenax is a better hair-strung koto and that's not saying much given most of you probably had to check that one to see what I was talking about.

The Hero of leina tower is amusing. You've never seen something giant growthed that hard. She's not likely to replace experiment one anytime soon.

Whelming wave is hilarious. Going in my commander deck.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:54 am
by zemanjaski
2-0 vs Dega

Suck it Kamahl.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:05 am
by Self Medicated
2-0 vs Dega

Suck it Kamahl.
Are you telling me Purge the Profane wasn't enough to beat you? :shrug:

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:06 am
by zemanjaski
His hand at the end of Game 1 was six sorcery speed removals.

Huehuehuehuehue

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:09 am
by Kazekirimaru
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I'm thoroughly upset they used "octopuses" instead of "octopi".

Pretty good, though. Basically Sorcery Evacuation for one less.