I didn't catch this before, but Kaze, what the hell is this post? You were super gung-ho about lynching Dechs even after his soft-claim (it's all you talk about for a while), then he calls you out for lying (since you'd never voted for him) and you drop Dechs entirely. The post before this one you said "You're right! :O and I had a reason for that. I think." talking about why you never voted Dechs. Elaborate.Hm.
Dechs wagon has Red on it - my other scumread, and a neutral.
Red wagon has a townie on it and myself.
Never mind. Yeah. I'll stay here.
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So, I think Kaze is scum. Normally I would wait for him to respond to the questions I just asked him, but deadline's in two days, so we're doing this now.
fair margin, actually), but given his claim I'm okay with leaving him until tomorrow.
Vote Kaze.
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All in all, I'm now fairly confident that Kaze and Dechs are the two scum. I'm more confident that Dechs is scum (by a fair margin, actually), but given his claim I'm okay with leaving him until tomorrow.
Vote Kaze.
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I think this is hilarious. Kaze and Stardust are my biggest scum reads. Kaze and me are Stardusts biggest scum reads. So, out of the three of us, one is definitely scum. Obviously, it's not me, and I'm going to be able to prove it tomorrow (unless someone protects my randomly selected target or role blocks me).
The next deduction I have to make here is that I can't be right that Stardust/Kaze is the team because this is way too early for a bus from Stardust. So, what is he doing here? Well, he's effectively trying to start a new wagon. The best part of the case references Kaze's behavior in a previous game few of us have experience with and we're supposed to take his word for it. It's just a ploy, more misdirection. This close to the deadline he's not hoping for a mislynch, just a no-lynch.
Hanging Scumdust in two votes.
The next deduction I have to make here is that I can't be right that Stardust/Kaze is the team because this is way too early for a bus from Stardust. So, what is he doing here? Well, he's effectively trying to start a new wagon. The best part of the case references Kaze's behavior in a previous game few of us have experience with and we're supposed to take his word for it. It's just a ploy, more misdirection. This close to the deadline he's not hoping for a mislynch, just a no-lynch.
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I mentioned it in my Kaze case, but I should highlight this. Dechs has claimed a rolecop/cop combo. Such a role could be given to town, but rolecop is much more often a scum role. If Dechs is scum, he also has the benefit of knowing who is not scum, making the cop portion of his claim relatively easy to fake (especially if ham is the only neutral, as I suspect he is). Basically, he can prove he's a rolecop, but he can't prove he's not scum....and I'm going to be able to prove it tomorrow...
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How about you let me worry about what I can prove.I mentioned it in my Kaze case, but I should highlight this. Dechs has claimed a rolecop/cop combo. Such a role could be given to town, but rolecop is much more often a scum role. If Dechs is scum, he also has the benefit of knowing who is not scum, making the cop portion of his claim relatively easy to fake (especially if ham is the only neutral, as I suspect he is). Basically, he can prove he's a rolecop, but he can't prove he's not scum....and I'm going to be able to prove it tomorrow...
I'm certain that everyone will believe me tomorrow. You, however, are already trying to undermine my claim before I even have that chance.
Come on guys, just hang him already.
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Something weird I noticed on my re-read.
Still sorting out the Kaze-Stardust accusation storm.
Oh, and I'm careful because I have a legit useful to town power role and I'd like to use it at least once before I get hanged. I rigged my choices so I couldn't be a vanilla townie.
He rigged his choices so he couldn't be a vanilla townie then claims vanilla townie.So I'm at four votes, I guess I should claim something.
Vanilla town with a two shot ability that is a perfectly reliable investigative power.
Like I said, though, I probably have no idea how to use it best. So, yeah. Go on. Hang me.
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Aren't you getting damn picky for someone with three votes and no claim?So is that actually included in the wording of your ability, or did you just assume that from some more generic wording?
I've played in precisely half a game before this (the one you're running right now). The wording on the one protection ability I've ever seen said that it made the player untargetable. I assumed that's how they worked.
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UnvoteI don't buy it. If he was scum, there's no way he'd be dumb enough to slip like this. You can't even say WIFOM to it, because it's a terrible gambit.unvoteelaborate[/quote:NOU!
I'm not scum, and I know Red's not on my team because reasons.
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don't talk to me about people not being dumb enough to slip certain ways.
Right now I'm willing to lynch Wraith to test a theory, DK because the above post implies he know who is and is not scum, imopen because he isn't upsetting me.
I think that's good for now. ask me anything.
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After my first game as scum, do you think I would be dumb enough to pick scum in the next game?UnvoteI don't buy it. If he was scum, there's no way he'd be dumb enough to slip like this. You can't even say WIFOM to it, because it's a terrible gambit.unvotenahelaborateNOU!
I'm not scum, and I know Red's not on my team because reasons.
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don't talk to me about people not being dumb enough to slip certain ways.
Right now I'm willing to lynch Wraith to test a theory, DK because the above post implies he know who is and is not scum, imopen because he isn't upsetting me.
I think that's good for now. ask me anything.
Vote Wraith
What is your theory? Think you are taking advantage of the end game there, but maybe you are fishing for someone else?
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I will ask you three things.ask me anything.
Can you explain that theory? I'm not convinced Wraith is town, but he's certainly leaning that way.
I don't see how DK's quote there implies he knows who's town. Reads to me that he's just doubting that ham slipped at all (though I have no idea why he'd take that stance when it's pretty clear that he did). Explain?
What do you think of Kaze?
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What? When I made my request to the Mod; it crossed my mind that it would be an issue in this game. So lets play a game. Can you guess what has never happened to me in any mafia game. I chose my role around this fact.After my first game as scum, do you think I would be dumb enough to pick scum in the next game?
This is the worst defense I have ever heard.
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Do you even understand how this game works, Wraith? You don't choose your alignment. The only way to do so is rig your choices so Pie is forced to lean a certain way, in which case you don't get to choose your ability.
Why would I want to play a game that outs power roles? Why would you want to reveal your role?
Why would I want to play a game that outs power roles? Why would you want to reveal your role?
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1. I think Wraith has a tell, and I'm not gonna say what it is until after he dies.I will ask you three things.ask me anything.
Can you explain that theory? I'm not convinced Wraith is town, but he's certainly leaning that way.
I don't see how DK's quote there implies he knows who's town. Reads to me that he's just doubting that ham slipped at all (though I have no idea why he'd take that stance when it's pretty clear that he did). Explain?
What do you think of Kaze?
2. That's not what he said though.
3. Not much, I guess I could go read him.
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1.It's something I noticed in gone postal and has happened in this game and not others.1. This is a tell that he uses during scum games (and you saw it here), or this is a tell that he uses during town games (and it's not here)?
2. So what did he say? I already think DK is scum, but I'm just not seeing this.
2."If he was scum, there's no way he'd be dumb enough to slip like this"
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shit, clicked submit. I don't see the town motivation in saying things like this.
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Is it an obvious tell?
Given his recent scum flip in Gone Postal, I'm less likely to be fooled by the "crazy Wraith he's so crazy" shtick and label him town by virtue of consistency. I'll take the possibility of him being scum seriously if you could point me in the right direction (without making it obvious to him so he stops doing it).
Is it an obvious tell?
Given his recent scum flip in Gone Postal, I'm less likely to be fooled by the "crazy Wraith he's so crazy" shtick and label him town by virtue of consistency. I'll take the possibility of him being scum seriously if you could point me in the right direction (without making it obvious to him so he stops doing it).
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I don't know who is and is not scum. My statement was Ham wouldn't say "I know he's not on my team because reasons" if he was actually scum. I had guessed that he was some kind of third party on his own, which his claim of survivor with hide ability makes sense with.Right now I'm willing to lynch ... DK because the above post implies he know who is and is not scum...I don't buy it. If he was scum, there's no way he'd be dumb enough to slip like this. You can't even say WIFOM to it, because it's a terrible gambit.unvotenahelaborateNOU!
I'm not scum, and I know Red's not on my team because reasons.
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1. If Wraith flips scum later in the game, I would love to subscribe to your newsletter. As it is, I'm not going to lynch a town read based on meta. Maybe later.1.It's something I noticed in gone postal and has happened in this game and not others.
2."If he was scum, there's no way he'd be dumb enough to slip like this"
2. Yeah, there's nothing to this. People say things like that all the time. Dechs is scum for lots of reasons, but this isn't one of them.
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Nice try. The only person I know who can catch me in a lie is my sister. She can read a person good. I have triple trick her into a fork in the road decision of whether I am tricking her or tricking to trick her. She looses her shit when I do that.1. I think Wraith has a tell, and I'm not gonna say what it is until after he dies.I will ask you three things.ask me anything.
Can you explain that theory? I'm not convinced Wraith is town, but he's certainly leaning that way.
I don't see how DK's quote there implies he knows who's town. Reads to me that he's just doubting that ham slipped at all (though I have no idea why he'd take that stance when it's pretty clear that he did). Explain?
What do you think of Kaze?
2. That's not what he said though.
3. Not much,
I guess I could go read him.
I knew that Role in Gone Postal would upset this game, thus as you saw in that game, you know I plan out things way ahead in advance. Picking Scum in this game is suicide to me and would detriment to a scum team. Go ahead and read me again, but where is the evidence I am Scum as compared to others?
Now I can talk about other players from Gone Postal. Red is good, but really to aggressive to challengers. He could hide a scum agenda in this game with the aggression and it would be hard to call.
Rez looks like he playing pretty much the same>>>Town pile.
Ham is a serious toss up to me. I would
have lynched his ass in a heart beat if I was town in Gone Postal (needed to make friends). This game...I don't know now that I have played scum. I REALY don't like that he claimed Neutral. That is a gamble my gut has issues with.
DK is hard to call as his play style is only known to me by one game where we worked together(ish). This game has him in my town pile for being falsely demanded a role by stardust.
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Just kidding. I was thinking about making a proper case anyway just in case I'm nightkilled and everyone forgets to lynch you somehow. So here. We. Go!
Thanks for making me do this, Dechs. This case is actually extremely strong. Strong enough that I think I'd rather lynch you than Kaze, despite the cop claim.
Unvote, Vote Dechs.
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So there you have it. Thanks for making me do this, Dechs. This case is actually extremely strong. Strong enough that I think I'd rather lynch you than Kaze, despite the cop claim.
Unvote, Vote Dechs.
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