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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:55 am
by RaidaTheBlade
I saw something similar... A couple of players at my lgs are trying it out.
I know for a fact that one of them isn't having any success cause I played him in gameday.
As far as I can tell, rw burn rides the line between fucking beautiful and horrendous. It seems like about 3/4ths if the decklists I see for it are poop, while a small number like Z's are insanely powerful.
Another issue is that it's not as easy to play as you would think. It takes a bit of a twist in the mindset to play that style correctly and well.
You have to get both of these things right, and while a lot of people could copy z's deck, it's such a difficult deck to play right that I think it won't get as popular as mono-black or mono-u did, for instance. I do expect to see it finishing really well in the hands of a small number of talented players though.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:56 am
by zemanjaski
Well now I'm curious

I lost the first round (GW aggro, couldn't find relevant removal first game, and kept a bad hand second game). So I was a bit annoyed going into the second game. It was mono-black, pretty standard list. Chose the wrong removal on the second turn Pack Rat (Lightning Strike instead of Ultimate Price, which meant I couldn't get rid of Nightveil Scepter on turn three) -> loss. So, enter the second game, it was quite grindy but I was confident that I could win it. Then I did this:
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I sit on five open mana, my opponent is tapped out or with maybe one open mana. Some creatures on the ground on each side (Gary + Pack Rat + 2x Mutavault on his side). He's on 4 life, I have a bit more, but I will die in perhaps 1-3 turns. I topdeck a Lightning Strike. What did I do? Removed his Pack Rat, instead of pointing it at him. The worst part? When the Lightning Strike resolved I realised that I had a Chandra's Phoenix in the graveyard...
I'm too stupid to play red-based decks...
Mate we've all done it. You'll never make that mistake again.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:59 am
by Platypus
You're right about that!
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:08 am
by zemanjaski
I'm going to win a pe this weekend. Why? Red mirrors all day, every day.
My power is of a higher order
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:14 am
by zemanjaski
I've had a few messages from people saying that they liked the deck but they've made all these "improvements". Flipping LOL.
That or, "can I substitute something for Mutavault?"
No, no you can't.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:55 am
by jsilv
I've had a few messages from people saying that they liked the deck but they've made all these "improvements". Flipping LOL.
That or, "can I substitute something for Mutavault?"
No, no you can't.
What you will quickly learn (if you haven't already), 'I love the deck! I think X and Y are brilliant! However I changed blah blah blah and want you to justify my (poor/budget) decisions.'
Bonus if it's in the comments and they really want to tell you that, no, seriously! I've tested this change wayyyy more than you even though I copied the rest of your deck and admitted I've only started playing it a few days ago.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:56 am
by zemanjaski
Hahaha, thanks josh.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:25 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Return to Arabian Nights. We need a
Shahrazad reprint.
Or not.
Return to Arabian Nights, want.
shahrazad, do not want.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:30 am
by Lightning_Dolt
I've had a few messages from people saying that they liked the deck but they've made all these "improvements". Flipping LOL.
That or, "can I substitute something for Mutavault?"
No, no you can't.
What you will quickly learn (if you haven't already), 'I love the deck! I think X and Y are brilliant! However I changed blah blah blah and want you to justify my (poor/budget) decisions.'
Bonus if it's in the comments and they really want to tell you that, no, seriously! I've tested this change wayyyy more than you even though I copied the rest of your deck and
admitted I've only started playing it a few days ago.
Like a certain new user in a certain mono black thread lol.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:15 pm
by RedNihilist
I feel very offended by this post, Keith-sensei.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:26 pm
by zemanjaski
My feature match opponent messaged me and told me I'm a gentleman and that he hopes we can play a better feature match as undefeated players next time

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:26 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
@ RN, not directed at you.
@Zem, too bad he's a scum bag lol. Is there somewhere I can watch the match? Youtube or something?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:31 pm
by zemanjaski
Yifan's cool. No grudge. We should collectively learn from this.
Also now I can justify getting custom Asuka sleeves.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:32 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Yifan's cool. No grudge. We should collectively learn from this.
Also now I can justify getting custom Asuka sleeves.
I disagree. No honour.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:34 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Also, at RN, did you see what Khaospawn said about saying "I'm offended by that"? I defer to him

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:35 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Also, why did you call me Keith Sensei? Do I know you IRL, are you stalking me or is it just a funny coincidence? lol That's what the kids call me.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:37 pm
by zemanjaski
Focus on the positives, Asuka sleeves and Viashino Firstblades.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:39 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Focus on the positives, Asuka sleeves and Viashino Firstblades.
Viashino Firstblade sleeves!
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:39 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
I will look at a couple of the local stores for Asuka sleeves. Hopefully they come in magic size.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:40 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Also, NerdBoyWonder, I missed the post office today (by three fucking minutes) but I will send your cards tomorrow.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:40 pm
by zemanjaski
You legend >:)
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:42 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Z, is there a place I can watch the match?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:43 pm
by Jack
Zem, would you have called the judge if you were sitting at the other side of the table?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:47 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Zem, would you have called the judge if you were sitting at the other side of the table?
I would not have waited until I was sitting at 7 life if I was going to.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:49 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
in game three no less.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:50 pm
by zemanjaski
No I wouldn't have, to be fair I wouldn't have noticed.
@ JS it's on wotc's twitch.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:50 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
If you've got a problem with your opponent's sleeves, it should be brought up immediately.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:51 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
No I wouldn't have, to be fair I wouldn't have noticed.
@ JS it's on wotc's twitch.
Trying to find it.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:53 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
I have no respect for people who manipulate the rules to get game losses. It's just dishonourable. It's one thing if your opponent is cheating and you catch him, but the situation was pretty benign.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:54 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Then again, I maybe let my opponents away with too much... Johnny the Merciful...
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:56 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
I can only find Day one...

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:57 pm
by RedNihilist
Also, why did you call me Keith Sensei? Do I know you IRL, are you stalking me or is it just a funny coincidence? lol That's what the kids call me.
I knew you weren't talking about me, I was just acting stupid for t3h lulz.
And no, I just went with Keith-sensei just because I found it funny in the context

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:01 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Who is this goof talking about R/W aggro who isn't Z? He's playing last years deck and gets a deck tech?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:02 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Also, why did you call me Keith Sensei? Do I know you IRL, are you stalking me or is it just a funny coincidence? lol That's what the kids call me.
I knew you weren't talking about me, I was just acting stupid for t3h lulz.
And no, I just went with Keith-sensei just because I found it funny in the context

Oh ok, lol. I actually am a teacher and the kids call me Keith Sensei.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:03 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Nice of Wizards to mix Melbourne and Barcelona. Dickbags.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:05 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
I can only find Day 1 and Top 8... wtf.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:06 pm
by zemanjaski
They should just publish my deck tech assholes.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:07 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Can anyone link me? I am in struggle town.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:08 pm
by Khaospawn
Can anyone link me? I am in struggle town.
Struggle town? Is that like rape-ville?
I've always preferred snuggle town.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:08 pm
by Jack
Most of my teachers just look at me funny when I call them by their first names.