[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

windstrider · Postby **windstrider** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:55 pm

Anyone interested in brewing a semi-competitive Heartless Summoning list? The obvious target that comes to mind is Sire of Insanity, but there have to be others, especially in a BUr shell with Havengul Lich.

Right now, I'm not so much interested in winning as having fun again.

Sasky · Postby **Sasky** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:01 am

Be sure to hit me with my card, Sasky - I'd rather it come from you than one of the others.

Shit. I couldn't get to it.

I humbly submit to punishment by your dick for my vast incompetence oh great lord. Homo is fine.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:03 am

Be sure to hit me with my card, Sasky - I'd rather it come from you than one of the others.
Shit. I couldn't get to it.

I humbly submit to punishment by your dick for my vast incompetence oh great lord. Homo is fine.

We're not trying to reward that sort of behavior around here, Sasky.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:26 am

@redthirst - always glad to stroke the ole......ego

@Sasky - You have no idea what thing is capable of... you should've seen what his crank did to my fridge when it was searching for some Blue Moon...

Sasky · Postby **Sasky** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:38 am

So yesterday I popped into my LGS and bought:

4 Render Silent
3 Notion Thief
4 Plasm Capture
3 Tajic, Blade of the Legion
1 THE BARON
2 Master of Cruelties
4 Skylasher
2 Gaze of Granite
2 Voice of Resurgence
2 Advent of the Wurm
4 Sire of Insanity, 1 foil Sire of Insanity
3 Pyrewild Shaman
1 Council of the Absolute
2 Exava Blood Witch
3 Lavinia of the Tenth
3 Beck//Call
3 Blood Scrivener
1 Aetherling
3 Ruric Thar
1 Teysa (for collection)

A full playset of all the good commons and uncommons.

Would have gladly bought a playset of each rare, if not for the shop's lack of stock (I mean, it's only just been pre-release).

DGM standard, here I come!

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:48 am

I fear you blew your load on the ugly stripper, Sasky.

Anyone else having a bitch of a time with the forum today?

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:55 am

I fear you blew your load on the ugly stripper, Sasky.

Anyone else having a bitch of a time with the forum today?

>mfw redthirst reveals that he's either illiterate or blind.

Come on, boss man. Which is it?

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:03 am

I browse the forum on my phone, so I don't see any of the banner announcements. I noticed the shitty performance, too, but assumed it was just the testosterone messing with my perception of time.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:06 am

Anyone interested in brewing a semi-competitive Heartless Summoning list? The obvious target that comes to mind is Sire of Insanity, but there have to be others, especially in a BUr shell with Havengul Lich.

Right now, I'm not so much interested in winning as having fun again.

I love me some Heartless Summoning.

Sasky · Postby **Sasky** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:09 am

I fear you blew your load on the ugly stripper, Sasky.

Anyone else having a bitch of a time with the forum today?

I do it all the time on a new set, buying a playset of all the possibly good cards instead of waiting for trades and booster-opening. I think I spent an insane amount with new phyrexia and rtr. DGM is probably the least I've spent, second only to gatecrash (reckoners were 6ea at the start).

Y'know what they say, blow your load everywhere, even on the ugly ones for some of them might be the sweet ones in disguise.

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:15 am

Nice philosophy, Sasky.

On my phone, Alex. Appreciate the sass, though - reminds me of my ex.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:24 am

Y'know what they say, blow your load everywhere, even on the ugly ones for some of them might be the sweet ones in disguise.

Totally sig-worthy.

Christen · Postby **Christen** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:30 am

It's slow today. It might be the DNS or something.

Helios · Postby **Helios** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:46 am

I think i'm a little late, but happy birthday photo!

Congrats to all those who were promoted- you deserve it!

I've been vomiting and shitting for the past 20 hours...hope ya'll are having a better day than I am.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:51 am

So, I've definitely decided on Jhoira of the Ghitu as my first EDH deck commander. Free It That Betrays sounds nice to me. And I have her already. Anybody have experience playing with her as commander?

Also, just snagged a Japanese Jace Beleren off Ebay for 7.00USD. Good stuff.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:51 am

And that sucks, Helios. Hope you feel better soon.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:54 am

Might go to FNM this week with:

[deck]
4 Ash Zealot
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Firefist Striker
4 Hellrider
4 Lightning Mauler
4 Pyreheart Wolf
4 Rakdos Cackler
2 Stonewright
4 Stromkirk Noble

4 Searing Spear

21 Mountain
1 Hellion Crucible[/deck]

Being me, I want that 23 land very badly...I just like to hit my land drops and grind out games with mana-sinks! Astute readers will know I really enjoyed the 24 land versions of Mono Red last season, even when everyone else was running 22

Probably some number of Threatens, some Pillars, Mortars and maybe Frostburn Weird in the board. Probably need to ask around and see what has been popular at the LGS.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:00 am

You guys don't see that shit on your phone? Do you have Nokias?

I see 'em just fine on my iPhone.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:20 am

Yeah I get them on my iPhonw as well.

Christen · Postby **Christen** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:36 am

I've been running this list with success in my LGS lately.

[deck]Creatures (32)
4 Arbor Elf
4 Gyre Sage
4 Flinthoof Boar
4 Strangleroot Geist
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
2 Borderland Ranger
4 Ghor-Clan Rampager
3 Thundermaw Hellkite
3 Wolfir Silverheart

Spells (7)
3 Mizzium Mortars
4 Domri Rade

Lands (21)
4 Stomping Ground
4 Rootbound Crag
5 Mountain
8 Forest

Sideboard
3 Pillar of Flame
3 Ground Seal
1 Gruul Charm
2 Act of Treason
2 Triumph of Ferocity
2 Garruk Relentless
2 Zealous Conscripts
[/deck]

This is Kibler's list IIRC. I was skeptical of running six 5-drops with 21 land at first but the deck is amazingly consistent and have no problems playing 5 drops.

I'd want to fit Zhur-Tha Druid in there somewhere, but Gyre Sage is just too valuable to replace. I also can't replace Borderland Ranger because most of the time I'm fetching mountains from him.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:07 am

Thanks to all for the birthday wishes!

Today has been okay for a working birthday. I got up this evening to see my son before he took off for evening school activities, and my daughter and I pulled together a yummy repast of grilled ribeye, baked potatoes and salad. She had baked cupcakes for me the night before, using a gluten-free recipe in deference to my son. The recipe used coconut flower and oil, so the cupcakes turned out tasting like Almond Joy after she added chocolate frosting. She couldn't find any birthday candles, so after dinner she comes over with a cupcake topped by a tea light candle...too funny. It was a nice evening.

@Helios - Sorry to here the bugs have invaded, man...here's hoping it's just a 24-hour blitz and that you feel more human tomorrow.

@Fate - That sucks...I am no fan of employment practices since the social media/networking boom. Sheesh, most people look like delinquents if you put
them under a microscope and look at things out of context. Next thing you know they will be denying jobs based on Internet browsing habits...Big Brother is alive and well and living in the HR departments of the world.

@ windstrider - You know I'm down with the Heartless...I think we need to see about organizing a "non-Tier 1" tournament/league to give people an opportunity to play all the cool cards that just can't quite carry the day in Standard. There are too many fun decks that just aren't viable against a room full of ramp-into-giants-and-utterly-disgusting-lifegain.dec lists. Something like Sioux organized...obviously it can be done.

@Kaze - Are you looking for someone to do alters for you or to learn from? Are you interested in overlays/Photoshop or hand-painted?

@zeman - I would not want to be the poor, unsuspecting casual player who sits down at FNM across from you with that list...I can feel the heat coming off of some blazing starts, and good luck to anyone who thinks they
can play defense against that.

Congrats to all on promos and PR-related fun!

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:09 am

Yeah, I always feel like a jerk at FNM. Soulcrushing can lead to the real 'feels bad man' moments.

Link · Postby **Link** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:13 am

so that other forum I posted on... they compared Armed/Dangerous to Deadly allure...

And Shinen's of life's roar.

And ignored the fact that it being a fuse card could give it any more value.

Did I mention they compared it to Deadly allure?

Posting on that site is seriously bad for my health

Link · Postby **Link** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:16 am

Its not an employment practice, I think that got lost in translation somewhere Photo. Happy birthday btw.

I wouldn't work for a company that would make me go through those hoops.

Its a State Board, aka a government licensing agency.

And there's nothing Red mages like me hate more than red fuckign tape

and not having a choice about to go cut through it

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:18 am

@Kaze - Are you looking for someone to do alters for you or to learn from? Are you interested in overlays/Photoshop or hand-painted?

Both, I suppose. I may look into commissioning the services of someone soon. And though I have literally no artistic ability whatsoever - physically or digitally - It'd be nice to know how and where to start. And hand-painted alters have always caught my eye.

Glad to hear you had a pleasant birthday.

Sasky · Postby **Sasky** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:40 am

I have done a couple of hand-painted alters before. They're not fantastic, but not utter shit anyhow. I can give you some advice if you need, just ask away.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:42 am

@Fate - Gotcha. I know the drill, then--state licensure and Federal employment here. But again, I did my thing in that regard 15 years ago, and things are much, much more stringent anymore with things that have happened in the world. State boards tend to be very punitive-minded--they are there to protect the public from us. That being said, I don't think you can be denied licensure just for speeding tickets, even if you failed to list them. People forget stuff, and even state employees with delusions of grandeur have some limits to what they can do (as outlined in the state manual for the given profession).

@Kaze - Go to ebay and search "mtg altered art" and "magic altered art" if you haven't already. There are some cool folks there that do some awesome work--I don't have access right now, but tomorrow I'll point at a couple of people I have experience with there. There's one guy I really like--
another James--who does overlay-style alters and who I've dealt with numerous times. His screen name is something to do with "flying monkeys" but I can't remember it exactly off the top of my head. There's also a gal who's screen presence is "Kitty" something or other or something similarly feline; she does hand-paints that are decent.

I will also keep an eye out at Spectrum Live next month; 60+ fantasy artists and I already know that a number of other companies and more local/lesser name artists will also be there. I will be surprised if there's not an alterer or two...

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:47 am

@James: Did you happen to get those PMs?

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:53 am

I'd like to ask for the clan's advice. I've barely played since GTC's release. I've been understandably quite distracted by my dick, the gym, changing life circumstances and photodyer's coffee.

I really enjoy the Dos Rakis / RakHammer style of deck, and I'm currently weighing adding a third color to it for some resiliency. I could go Dega (+W) or Jund (+G) with a minimal splash for some slightly better creatures (Flinthoof Boar, Gyre Sage) and utility spells (Oblivion Ring, Boros Charm).

Given that I've gotten quite good at playing with the old Dos Rakis style (and my beloved transformational sideboard), which 3rd color would give me the most value? I'm leaning towards Jund but I'd love to hear more from the standard players here who have kept up with the shifting metagame.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:54 am

Playing Jund isn't really anything like playing an aggro deck.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:58 am

I would lean Jund as well at the moment; it is more aggressive and if you're playing a bigger creature deck then I don't think going white gives you much beyond Reckoner, who isn't that good at the moment (if only because everyone is gearing up to beat him). Green also gives you KWR and Borderland Ranger, which are very nice; Borderland actually gives you good mana (not insignificant in a 3 colour aggro deck that wants to hit 5 mana EVERY game).

@ Alex - yeah. I fired back some questions regarding what sort of conduct from you or I would be acceptable; as long as I can continue to be the beligerent jerk that everyone seems to begrudgingly accept, I am not opposed to it ~ diestoremoval seems very content to allow us to self-regulate, so I think the policy implementation would just be a continuance of that. I certainly don't think that they will want to become like MTGS.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:04 am

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=58030#p58030:3k7zno05]zemanjaski » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:58 pm[/url:3k7zno05]":3k7zno05]@ Alex - yeah. I fired back some questions regarding what sort of conduct from you or I would be acceptable; as long as I can continue to be the beligerent jerk that everyone seems to begrudgingly accept, I am not opposed to it ~ diestoremoval seems very content to allow us to self-regulate, so I think the policy implementation would just be a continuance of that. I certainly don't think that they will want to become like MTGS.[/quote:3k7zno05]
Sweet. I wasn't sure if you didn't get it, or if you just didn't respond to all. (There's a button towards the bottom that lets you do that, by the way.) Just wanted to make sure you at least read it. I think I did a pretty decent job of representing what we were about.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:08 am

Alex:

I don't intend to play the Jund midrange of RTR, I just want to see if I can get a little more value out of my creatures in the 2/3 drop slot with a green/white addition. Possibly Rancor, too.

It might turn out that Spike Jester is all I need, I just haven't done a lick of testing.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:22 am

@ Alex - yeah. I fired back some questions regarding what sort of conduct from you or I would be acceptable; as long as I can continue to be the beligerent jerk that everyone seems to begrudgingly accept, I am not opposed to it ~ diestoremoval seems very content to allow us to self-regulate, so I think the policy implementation would just be a continuance of that. I certainly don't think that they will want to become like MTGS.
Sweet. I wasn't sure if you didn't get it, or if you just didn't respond to all. (There's a button towards the bottom that lets you do that, by the way.) Just wanted
to make sure you at least read it. I think I did a pretty decent job of representing what we were about.

Yeah, I thought your summary was pretty awesome actually.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:35 am

@ham - Having run at both variants, I'd also say Jund. I would also suggest that you give Ceddy P's list a run (with Hounds added to the SB maybe)...it has the Aristocrat and Tmaw tricks we like but as Z said better mana and such, BTE acceleration, ramp and so on. I love playing Dega, but it is really no more competitive in the meta because you are struggling between keeping mana up for Charm and trying to tap out for aggro. I love the tools that Dega provides, but it regrettably fares no better against this big midrange meta than Dos Rakis. White works better in something like Alex's list that is abusing Charm and Resto.

@zeman & Alex - Cryptic words of portent...

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:35 am

I've lagged out of this website so many times today my web browser's front page actually replaced the usual site title with "Oops! Google Chrome has failed to connect to http://community.ist.utl.pt/.

Goodness.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:41 am

Portent? Nay, I think you'll actually be pleasantly surprised.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:59 am

You know what they say about absolute power...

...redthirst has it and that guy is amazing!

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:29 am

Portent? Nay, I think you'll actually be pleasantly surprised.

Thou dost lean too Shakespearean, sir...I said naught of ill portent. Verily, I be not worried but intrigued.

[/smartassery]

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:40 am

You know what they say about absolute power...

...redthirst has it and that guy is amazing!

Well of course he does. Let's face it...the prospect of death by dick-bludgeoning or 9mm anti-personnel rounds should be enough to inspire any sensible mortal to just start nodding yes the moment redthirst makes a request.

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