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Postby BlakLanner » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:48 pm

I will miss the core set. It held most of the reprinted staples from year to year (planeswalkers, mana guys, etc). I do approve of the more consistent rotation schedule once we get fully into 2 set block. I just hope they don't do a ton of functional reprints just because the locale of a block changes. I am still mad at them for getting rid of Llanowar Elves.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:49 pm

Nice to give standard a shorter shelf life. Hopefully things won't get stale as quickly. I wonder what this will do to card prices?

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Postby BlakLanner » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:50 pm

I doubt it will change prices much. It looks like every card still has nearly the same lifespan.
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Postby Self Medicated » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:54 pm

Can we get a summary of the changes for those of us at work? WOTC site is blocked here.
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Postby BlakLanner » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:55 pm

They are moving to 2 set blocks and removing the core set. Standard will consist of 3 blocks and rotate more often once everything currently rotates out.
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Postby Self Medicated » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:03 pm

Interesting.

Found an article on TCGPlayer by Raphael Levy with his reaction to the news:

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=12011
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Postby Self Medicated » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:11 pm

Alright. That's weird. I just read the article and now it's not even on their front page anymore. The link now redirects to their front page also.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:19 pm

In soviet Russia, link redirects to you

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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:23 pm

Seems its been removed
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:38 pm

I for one welcome our new 2 set block overlords.
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:11 pm

So Khans and Dewie will have slightly shortened Standard stints, and Louie will be the first set rotating on the new schedule, even though it will also be the last 3rd set of a 3-set block. Odd. I think that also means that rares/mythics from Khans and Dewie will be / should be devalued since they'll have slightly shorter lives in Standard.
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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:28 pm

Sounds Gay
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Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS
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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:30 pm

But seriously, that seems a good move, the sets get more focused, and you can still release dual decks and other commander product for people who aren't into the current block.

The biggest advantage for me is getting rid of the "third block syndrome" wherein staples are expensive/difficult to find because the third block was way less drafted than the previous ones.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:39 pm

Seems its been removed
And be sure to check back at 8pm EST to see what Hall of Famer Raphaël Lévy thinks of the changes!

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:39 pm

I actually think the changes might be just what the doctor ordered.

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Postby Self Medicated » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:02 pm

Unless the doctor ordered a prostate exam, in which case, damn...
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Postby Valdarith » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:19 pm

So Khans and Dewie will have slightly shortened Standard stints, and Louie will be the first set rotating on the new schedule, even though it will also be the last 3rd set of a 3-set block. Odd. I think that also means that rares/mythics from Khans and Dewie will be / should be devalued since they'll have slightly shorter lives in Standard.
Louie being a large set certainly helps.

I find it pretty ironic that Patrick Chapin was talking about the possibility of WotC doing this in one of his articles a couple of weeks ago only to get the announcement today. Insider information or just damn good prognostication?
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Postby BlakLanner » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:24 pm

Or just a fairly reasonable solution to several problems people have brought up. I doubt it was insider info either way. There is a reason he is as good as he is, after all.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:40 pm

Weirdly enough, I was just saying on Saturday to somebody that WoTC probably should just get rid of core sets. Reason being, at the PTQ I was at, all the pack winners/box winners were running them back to the vendors to sell at $2 a pack. Good players don't want the core sets and I've noticed that most newer players typically get into Magic during one of the the big blocks due to an appealing theme/hype of a new set. It made me wonder why WoTC still continues to push core sets at all.

And then Rosewater mentioned in his article that R&D is always asking to whom is the core set aimed at.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:42 pm

Or just a fairly reasonable solution to several problems people have brought up. I doubt it was insider info either way. There is a reason he is as good as he is, after all.
He's psychic?

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:47 pm

No, he's bulimic.
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Postby hamfactorial » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:48 pm

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:48 pm

*whispers* You can read minds?
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Postby hamfactorial » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:51 pm

What is this, a block for ANTS?

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:53 pm

I need one at least....three times this size!
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:53 pm

Listen to your friend Billy Zane.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:05 pm

variance exists obviously but if you find yourself consistently blaming losses on bad luck, you're either playing a bad deck or are a bad player or are some combination of the two and also part of the Entitlement Generation.
I think the key is to have the integrity to differentiate between bad luck and player error.

I read that Reid Duke coming back from the pro tour with a list of the misplays he made and used that to help himself improve / motivate himself and his improvement in the following year was astounding.

Since then, I've been keeping track of what went wrong in games I lose.
My score sheets say things like: Bad sequencing, punt, mana screw, mana flood, out played, misread opponent, god hand, played to outs, bad keep, loose keep, mulliganed too aggressively etc. I try my best to be honest with myself because I think it's the only way to improve.

My friend took it one further. He has a spread sheet where he records how many lands he had on curve, how many his opponent had etc. as well. Guy is hardcore with crunching statistics, but also serious about improving and accountability.

There are a lot of things we, as players can do, but luck is still a factor. You aren't being honest with yourself (and likely too hard on yourself) if you don't acknowledge it.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:17 pm

"you did it again, old boy"
You beat up an entire gang with nothing but a hammer?
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Postby Alex » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:24 pm

I'm going to miss core set limited (the last few core sets have been fantastic) but overall the changes are good because they address a lot of small problems at once. It doesn't bode well for certain reprints, but oh well.

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Postby Tyrael » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:30 pm

I'm curious to see how this will affect card prices
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Postby Second Harkius » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:58 pm

"you did it again, old boy"
You beat up an entire gang with nothing but a hammer?
and I thought my jokes were bad.

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:11 pm

"you did it again, old boy"
You beat up an entire gang with nothing but a hammer?
and I thought my jokes were bad.
It's not a joke. It's a movie reference, tard.
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Postby Second Harkius » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:15 pm

It's a pun based on madding's comment 'old boy' and the film 'oldboy'. A pun is a type of joke.

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Postby Second Harkius » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:16 pm

god why are you all so bad at everything

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:17 pm

I love you, Spam. :P
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:25 pm

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Postby Valdarith » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:08 pm

I thought it was a Joker reference.
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Postby Second Harkius » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:12 pm

I thought it was a Joker reference.
I was using a Joker reference to respond to his Oldboy pun.

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