Dies to Removal

MandersHex and Shazbot have been issued suspensions for ignoring a mod request, and will be back in 3 days.

Good Morning Everyone.
So, let's take this one step at a time.

I'm not even commenting on the veracity of your claims. You may have been in the GRRRR for a while, but I'm there now and as an Admin, I'm responsible for the path it takes, so I can tell you it's nothing like you make it out to be. Still this is just my word, so you don't have to believe it, so, discussing the GRRR won't take us anywhere.
As for the "you can do no wrong" argument... you are so wrong. I am constantly re-evaluating my decisions. I have overturned cards I gave on several ocasions because I admitted I was wrong. I'm just not going to do it because of pressure. I did it (and will continue to do it) when I feel I have acted wrong. For a mod, pride can be the #1 enemy when it comes to being professional and competent and I'm well aware of that. It's just that I
still think you didn't act correctly with that comment toward Teia. You yourself admitted you called her a liar and that's not something I will tolerate (and this isn't about Teia, but rather anyone calling someone else a liar).


No one said you weren't calm. I just said you called her a liar. Are you trying to tell me that, when you were on staff, you'd let someone get away with calling someone else a liar?


This was never about Teia, but rather about your tone. If you were talking about someone else, the outcome would have been the same. And yes, that tone seems to lead to infractions and suspensions, and that's a good thing. It's about time people start respecting each other. And for some reason, you don't respect someone, keep it to yourself. You can discuss ideas without attacking the person, can't you?


If that were true, I'd be infracting myself all the time
But really, I find this funny, since the way I do things, I don't even look at the poster's name until after I've issued the card. If he has an avatar that I'm familiar with, I'll know who it is, but in this case, I only knew it was Sapph when someone pointed it out, after I gave him the card.


You assume that I keep a list of everyone connected to the Gutter? Really, I try to have an equal measure for everyone, no matter who they are. I don't expect you to believe this, but I didn't even know Sapph was connected to the Gutter (I haven't cared about the Gutter since TFE left, so my memory of it is sketchy at best).
And he has used the word liar twice ITT. For what it's worth I actually respect Sapph a bit more after this, because he didn't try to weasel his way out of this card. Everyone is trying to convince me he didn't call Teia a liar, except for him that admitted to it (twice). So, yeah, he got carded for it, but he was decent enough
to be honest about it (and I'm being serious here).


That was you being carefull and non aggressive?
I'd like to know at what point calling people liars was deemed ok, because it isn't anymore. Not on my watch.

That was you being carefull and non aggressive?
I'd like to know at what point calling people liars was deemed ok, because it isn't anymore. Not on my watch.