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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:07 am

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:09 am

[deck]
Creatures
4 Bloodstained Champion
4 Tormented Hero
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Chief of the Edge
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Butcher of the Horde
2 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells
3 Hero's Downfall
2 Crackling Doom
3 Mardu Charm

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2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor

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4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Caves of Koilos
4 Battefield Forge
3 Mana Confluence
2 Nomad Outpost
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 Swamp
2 Mountain
1 Plains
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Still contemplating on the manabase and Sorin's slot. He has been good in testing.
Thats where a lot of us are but it's pretty clunky. I also think it's a mistake to no play a couple Tymaret / raiders spoils.

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:12 am

We should probably make a thread for developing that archetype.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:17 am

Look at the color of cards you're trying to curve into and figure out if that's reality or not.

Make adjustments from there.

I'm also not saying that it ISN'T reality, but you do need to figure that out. It'll mostly be a function of the speed of the format and how your deck interacts with caryatid/courser.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:28 am

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Postby Khaospawn » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:04 pm

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Postby Tyrael » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:02 pm

Do you do this often? You seem to be naturally good at this sort of stuff.
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Postby Pedros » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:03 pm

I bought 4 Ashcloud Phoenixes for 1,5$ each. I think it is quite a good price for this awsome 4 drop. If not I would not loose a lot.

There is a lot of ways how you want to build Mardu. You can go Warriors, you can go RED, you can go WHITE, you can go tokens, you can go aristocrats, you can go midrange/control. I even saw Mardu Devotion white.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:08 pm

Do you do this often? You seem to be naturally good at this sort of stuff.
Thanks!

I actually felt really uncomfortable ~ I don't like how little eye contact I made or how much fidgeting I was doing; I kept looking down to the floor rather than at camera or at sam too :P
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Postby Khaospawn » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:11 pm

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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:31 pm

Thank you.
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Postby Purp » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:35 pm

Interview was good, I dislike the overlay design, you need to put Pip to work!

Was the GP really your first paper event?
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:47 pm

Interview was good, I dislike the overlay design, you need to put Pip to work!

Was the GP really your first paper event?
First paper event under professional rules enforcement, which is why the shuffling thing was so relevant. I had played legacy events and the melbourne invitational a few times, but they are run as casual events, so my retardedness never came up.
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Postby Valdarith » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:52 pm

Do you do this often? You seem to be naturally good at this sort of stuff.
Thanks!

I actually felt really uncomfortable ~ I don't like how little eye contact I made or how much fidgeting I was doing; I kept looking down to the floor rather than at camera or at sam too :P[/quote:
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I noticed that off the bat, but the positioning of the chairs and camera doesn't help. If the chairs were angled toward one another it would promote eye contact with the interviewer while still being able to address the camera. See Channel Fireball on Youtube for examples.
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Postby Tyrael » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:07 pm

Do you do this often? You seem to be naturally good at this sort of stuff.
Thanks!

I actually felt really uncomfortable ~ I don't like how little eye contact I made or how much fidgeting I was doing; I kept looking down to the floor rather than at camera or at sam too :P[/quote:
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Your tone of voice was normal, your intonation was good and clear and what you had to say was interesting so I didn't really pay attention to any of that. I'm generally used to interviews with mtg players being extremely awkward to watch so this was a breather for me (see: almost any SCG interview). I think it's normal for you to show these little signs of nervousness tbh.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:10 pm

I'll mention the chair configuration to them for the future.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:14 pm

FWIW I know they would tremendously appreciate comments on the video, they are a small out fit commercially (though very successful players) and looking to keep improving.
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Postby Purp » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:22 pm

Put pip to work creating overlays. Reward her with the D.

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Postby Platypus » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:27 pm

Do you do this often? You seem to be naturally good at this sort of stuff.
Thanks!

I actually felt really uncomfortable ~ I don't like how little eye contact I made or how much fidgeting I was doing; I kept looking down to the floor rather than at camera or at sam too :P[/quote:
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I don't think it was noticable. You looked very relaxed to me. It was a good interview. The only thing that bothered me was the chair placements, they should have been angled a bit towards each other. Now it looked a bit awkward, like you both didn't know where to look, at each other (and then turn your head) or at the camera (looks like you're talking by yourself).
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Postby Purp » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:36 pm

Z, is Australian media going crazy right now?
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:58 pm

Ha! Nope.
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Postby Khaospawn » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:59 pm

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Postby Christen » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:10 pm

Thats where a lot of us are but it's pretty clunky. I also think it's a mistake to no play a couple Tymaret / raiders spoils. We should probably make a thread for developing that archetype.
We should, so we could make adjustments and such. Although IMO Tymaret doesn't make the cut unless you are heavy on token production. I'm not too keen on Raiders as well since by turn 4 we should be dropping Butcher if possible.
Look at the color of cards you're trying to curve into and figure out if that's reality or not.

Make adjustments from there.

I'm also not saying that it ISN'T reality, but you do need to figure that out. It'll mostly be a function of the speed of the format and how
your deck interacts with caryatid/courser.
I've yet to see a good gauntlet so I'll hold on commenting on how the deck might interact with the future meta. With regards to the two problematic cards, at least those things are covered (good removal, evasion).

Someone posted this on reddit, but this should be a good guideline for decks in KTK standard.

1. Can it deal with Courser of Kruphix?
2. Can it deal with T3 Rabblemaster? Mono-Black Aggro?
3. Can it deal with Stormbreath Dragon?
4. Draw 7, take out the most important card. Can you still win with that hand? (Thoughtseize)
5. Does it have a plan against Elspeth or Nissa?
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:34 pm

I can put up a bunch of my level 1- level 2 decks if people want decks to start with for the first week.
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Postby Jedi_Knight » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:38 pm

The dragon is actually very big problem for Mardu brews not playing Crackling Doom or Stoke the Flames. He is both immune to Mardu Charm and Butcher which will spell doom for the deck. I really don't want to be on the receiving end of Stormie.

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Postby BlakLanner » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:45 pm

I've yet to see a good gauntlet so I'll hold on commenting on how the deck might interact with the future meta. With regards to the two problematic cards, at least those things are covered (good removal, evasion).

Someone posted this on reddit, but this should be a good guideline for decks in KTK standard.

1. Can it deal with Courser of Kruphix?
2. Can it deal with T3 Rabblemaster? Mono-Black Aggro?
3. Can it deal with Stormbreath Dragon?
4. Draw 7, take out the most important card. Can you still win with that hand? (Thoughtseize)
5. Does it have a plan against Elspeth or Nissa?
That is a reasonable set of criteria. I would also add Butcher of the Horde and Siege Rhino to the list since I would expect those to see heavy play in the
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:03 pm

They will see a lot of play, but they don't inherently provide a different test to Stormbreath or Polukranos.
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Postby Valdarith » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:11 pm

I can put up a bunch of my level 1- level 2 decks if people want decks to start with for the first week.
This would be appreciated. Just looking at all the "brews" on /r/spikes doesn't really give any meaningful info, and even a lot of the brews from pros on articles aren't spectacular.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:17 pm

Your base gauntlet should be:

Mono R RabbleBurn
Mono Black Aggro feat. Boon of Erobos x 3, eight fetchlands and 2 Murderous Cut
BUG Midrange from my Sultai Charm article; needs work, but if you cannot beat the bad version of the list...well...geez
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:30 pm

I'll put up actual gauntlet lists from our 1st week of testing ASAP.
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Postby Purp » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:34 pm

Murderous Cut and Fetches in the same deck is just the nuts.
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Postby BlakLanner » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:36 pm

Any of the delve cards and fetches is just nuts.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:54 pm

Your base gauntlet should be:

Mono R RabbleBurn
Mono Black Aggro feat. Boon of Erobos x 3, eight fetchlands and 2 Murderous Cut
BUG Midrange from my Sultai Charm article; needs work, but if you cannot beat the bad version of the list...well...geez
this all sounds sketchy except rabble
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If you say so.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:57 pm

i do
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:22 pm

you're just pushing zemmers on people
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:44 pm

even if it's worth having in the gauntlet, him saying what numbers of a random card like Boon of Erebos to use in your test list is just classic zem
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:45 pm

as for the BUG list, I have refrained for commenting out of respect to his CFB position
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.


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