Dies to Removal

fuck you and your WIFOM creating ass iso.

We're not lynching Kaze toDay.

Period.

Now that makes a lot more sense. And there was Manders saying you weren't needed for that decision...

I still don't see how it matters...if we decide to lynch kaze and iso blocks it does that really make sense from a town perspective? What makes you so sure kaze isn't scum?

My point is that Governor is a town role, period. Putting it in the hands of scum, especially in a LyoL situation, is going to get people to cry foul on the mod.

So basically, we're lynching my way this game for as long as I'm alive.

And I want to lynch Nuwen.

My point is that Governor is a town role, period. Putting it in the hands of scum, especially in a LyoL situation, is going to get people to cry foul on the mod.

So basically, we're lynching my way this game for as long as I'm alive.

And I want to lynch Nuwen.

I really don't think you being the govenor gives you the right to impose your will on every lynch. If the majority want to lynch someone, then you can make a decision to block it, but that block is on you and you alone. I'm not bending to your lynches without good logic behind them

There's no way I'm lynching Nuwen based on day 1 insofar. Unless something really scummy happens in the meantime, count me out.

I'm also out for lynching Nuwen. I will in no way take part in her lynch unless her future posts give me reason to think otherwise.

I'd rather lynch fate, imopen, or rezmo

What the actual fuck is going on? What's a governor?

nvm I looked it up.

Shit's deep, bro.

I could be convinced to vote for Nuwen.

Iso's doing far more dirt kicking than scumhunting this game. He even raises the unlikely possibility that Suga could actually be a scum double voter right when Suga's wagon was breaking up. He's actively trying to make as many people look scummy as possible.

Doublevoter is typically a town power but we don't know what the setup is like. I'd say there's a fair chance dan wouldn't be opposed to including a scum doublevoter in this game.

And now you're fishing me because my reason for believing that relates directly to my role.

First of all, my statement wasn't a fish. Secondly, if you were intent on protecting your info to the extent you say I was fishing for it, why did you claim immediately after? Someone looking to truly protect their role wouldn't do that.

It puts a lot of lynch control in the town's hands. Either dan wanted to break the norm by giving the scum a doublevoter or we're in for a hell of a Night.

So basically, we're lynching my way this game for as long as I'm alive.

"[My role] puts a lot of lynch control in the town'
s hands."

"We're lynching my way this game for as long as I'm alive."

My point is that Governor is a town role, period. Putting it in the hands of scum, especially in a LyoL situation, is going to get people to cry foul on the mod.

So basically, we're lynching my way this game for as long as I'm alive.

And I want to lynch Nuwen.

I really don't think you being the govenor gives you the right to impose your will on every lynch. If the majority want to lynch someone, then you can make a decision to block it, but that block is on you and you alone. I'm not bending to your lynches without good logic behind them

My point is that unless you want
me to overturn a lynch on somebody I think is town, people should sheep me.

There's no way I'm lynching Nuwen based on day 1 insofar. Unless something really scummy happens in the meantime, count me out.

Okay. Who do you want to lynch?

I could be convinced to vote for Nuwen.

SHEEP ME

Iso's doing far more dirt kicking than scumhunting this game. He even raises the unlikely possibility that Suga could actually be a scum double voter right when Suga's wagon was breaking up. He's actively trying to make as many people look scummy as possible.

Doublevoter is typically a town power but we don't know what the setup is like. I'd say there's a fair chance dan wouldn't be opposed to including a scum doublevoter in this game.

And now you're fishing me because my reason for believing that relates directly to my role.

First of all, my statement wasn't a fish. Secondly, if you were intent on protecting your info to the extent you say I was
fishing for it, why did you claim immediately after? Someone looking to truly protect their role wouldn't do that.

It puts a lot of lynch control in the town's hands. Either dan wanted to break the norm by giving the scum a doublevoter or we're in for a hell of a Night.

So basically, we're lynching my way this game for as long as I'm alive.

"[My role] puts a lot of lynch control in the town's hands."

"We're lynching my way this game for as long as I'm alive."

I claimed because I don't
want to have to waste my ability on Day 1.

And yes, I am the town. :awesome:

The fuck. So, what then? Iso has town by the balls now? And can anyone confirm or deny that this is inherently a town/scum role or not?

Iso, what made you so sure about not lynching Kaze back when you made that post?

See the error in this logic is that you think your opinion should trump the majority and that since you can block a lynch then we need to sheep you. You still need to make a case against someone for me to vote them. I will not simply follow you off a cliff

The fuck. So, what then? Iso has town by the balls now? And can anyone confirm or deny that this is inherently a town/scum role or not?

No he just wants to act like he does.

Iso, what made you so sure about not lynching Kaze back when you made that post?

I thought he was being cased for bad reasons. I've seen nothing to indicate that he is anything more scum-related than a belligerent townie.

See the error in this logic is that you think your opinion should trump the majority and that since you can block a lynch then we need to sheep you. You still need to make a case against someone for me to vote them. I will not simply follow you off a cliff

I don't expect you to follow me off a cliff with no reasoning. I've made my case.

Iso, you should totes compile your case in your next post for easy reading. Mainly because I'm lazy.

I gathered you dislike Nuwen because you think she's leading us around but that's as far as I got.

reading is easy

I hear it's also tech

trufax

Hmm, well... My biggest issue with sheeping you is that you had a vote on me earlier. How can I trust that you're not wrong about her as well? I can't.

I guess we're in for a long D1.

Pirates are scummy.

Iso, why did you breadcrumb your role so obviously and so early? What advantage did you think you were giving us there?

And also what advantage are we getting now? We give up our votes to iso? This does not make any sense to me

If I'm not allowed to lynch Kaze today, I'm putting my vote on Iso, that's for sure.

Well why not? If he do is a governor and he will not be playing along with other townspeople, he's as good as scum.

Well why not? If he do is a governor and he will not be playing along with other townspeople, he's as good as scum.

Sadly, this is true. If he's going to play my way or the highway, it's going to make this day near impossible to end. I'd like to see Iso make a post with his whole case against Nuwen. I honestly don't see why she should be the lynch but if the dear Gov'na would post his thoughts maybe I could go "Baa" and sheep along.

I'm not facepalming because you refuse to sheep Iso. I'm facepalming at the logic that a useless townie is a good lynch. If that's the case, there's always Tom Servo... and he might actually be scum!

Anyway, Iso probably only has one-shot, so it's not like this can last forever. Just keep playing like you always would. Iso will use his ability or he won't, but he can't dictate every lynch - only one of them.

Then again, I suppose lynching Kosakosa in Iso's last game would have been for the best despite him being a townie. But I'm pretty sure Iso's not as bad as Kosakosa.

Pretty sure.

reading is easy

Fuck you. If you want me to sheep you then take the fucking time.

READ EXPLANATION JUNK because i reread the vast majority of the game and will inflict harm upon myself if i create a post that puts any more quotes into this thread

Kaze going into "Why am I being lynched over other people, you guys are clearly baddies" early on is the scummiest thing in the thread IMO and I couldn't actually find something decent for what Fate was talking about with him defending him and Nuwen except in the big wall post where he goes into detail on everyone on his wagon and there it's not actually defending nuwen or fate, it's just 'this is a read that i have and im giving it because they're on my wagon'. He has had a few decent posts since then though like post 313 with why he asked Col. about his reads list though.

Stardust read is pretty much all gut but i think i can explain the basis for the gut pretty decently even though you might just look at me and say 'Gamma I disagree with
everything you've ever believed in because X' afterwards
Stardust's posts and tone to me don't look as engaged with the game as I feel like they should be. He's asking a ton of questions and I feel like as town he'd have come to more conclusions based on them than he has and would be pushing harder for a specific lynch. Another thing is in post 155, he says he trusts Nuwen and Manders conditionally which just feels off to me? Like it could definitely be just me being used to similar statements being worded differently on other sites but it just seemed like an odd thing to say.

I'm going to do this for right now
Vote:Stardust

and also state that i'm not actually super confident in these reads so if you have STRONG OPINIONZ and you want me to pay attention then do a quick recap of why you're voting <some dude> and i'll put some effort into taking a look.

Well why not? If he do is a governor and he will not be playing along with other townspeople, he's as good as scum.

If he's governor, than he's almost assuredly town.

(OOG: can anyone point me in the direction of a post that explains the usefulness of a governor, I genuinely don't get it)

(OOG: can anyone point me in the direction of a post that explains the usefulness of a governor, I genuinely don't get it)

Can overturn scumhammers in LyLo.

Actually hold on, why would you say your governor?

If thats what it does

(fuck you posting restrictions, fuck you and your red text)

Actually hold on, why would you say your governor?

Yea, this whole thing makes no sense to me.

Iso, why did you breadcrumb your role so obviously and so early? What advantage did you think you were giving us there?

Because I wanted people to pick up that we're not lynching Kaze toDay.

If I'm not allowed to lynch Kaze today, I'm putting my vote on Iso, that's for sure.

ur dum

And you'd also be wasting my ability and you'd have to lynch me Day 2. Like hell I'm gonna let you lynch me.

Well why not? If he do is a governor and he will not be playing along with other townspeople, he's as good as scum.

Sadly, this is true. If he's going to play my way or the highway, it's going to make this day near impossible to end. I'd like to see Iso make a post with his whole case against Nuwen. I honestly don't see why she should be the lynch but if the dear Gov'na would post his thoughts maybe I could go "Baa" and sheep along.

What do you consider a "whole case"? Do I need more?

Then again, I suppose lynching
Kosakosa in Iso's last game would have been for the best despite him being a townie. But I'm pretty sure Iso's not as bad as Kosakosa.

Pretty sure.

reading is easy

Fuck you. If you want me to sheep you then take the fucking time.

No, sir, fuck you! One post isn't that difficult to read.

Actually hold on, why would you say your governor?

Because I get mad when people don't listen to me in Mafia.