Before I get into ISOing rez to see if I can find anything more... concrete, here's a quick post.
MJ, don't get snarky with me. You should care because I'm town, you're presumably town, and town working together to find scum is helpful. Mafia 101. Hell, Red's post earlier on this page is the reason I decided to take a look at Rez. Listen to other townies' opinions, it helps sometimes.
SEGUE TIME
So I noticed that Red said he doesn't have the time to look through imopen's posts. So I figured I'd take a look at both him and rcw. I read through rcw first and noticed a few things.
- rcw pushed on Red a lot yesterday. When the wagon dissipated, he gave up. The manner in which he pushed Red and later backed off makes Red town as fuck, which is good because I was suspecting him for a moment there. Actually, Red is more likely town than LMD because scum pushing a player is more clearing than being a counterwagon
to scum. Usually.
- he has interesting interactions with Rez.
This post, where he calls out two of rez's reads (imopen and LMD), almost arbitrarily. He doesn't mention ham or CM - not mentioning ham is notable given the ham/rezzy feud, as not commenting on that read means he doesn't have to commit. The thing I found weird even when I read it the first time (when I made my case on rcw), was that he paused to ask this question in a new post (
see here).
This post, his main comment on the Rez vs Ham kerfuffle. He doesn't actually give a read on Rez here. Read it over a few times.
This post, where he comments on imopen's 3p scumlist. The list consists of me, Rez and Red. He says "I don't have Pie on my scum list right now", which implies he doesn't have a problem lynching the other two. Right? Well, we know he wants to lynch Red given his posts yesterday. But why Rez? Didn't he say
he could see ham/rez being town-on-town?
Maybe he's developing a 'scumread', he tells imopen
he's coming around to the idea of a Rezlynch, but that language seems like he's avoiding giving a full commitment again. There IS
a wagon on rez at this time, too. But again, he said he could see it being town
vs town... wondering what changed his mind. Oh well, he was scum and he's dead.
"But Pie, why are you using WIFOMy stuff from dead-scum to make your vote on rez?"
It's not
just that. It's more WIFOMy stuff, from everyone's favorite dead townie: imopen2. He's probably cheering at me from the deadthread for listening to his read. Shut up, imopen.
Here is his ISO. Skim through it, real quick. There's nothing of note you need to read into. See how many times he wants to, or does, vote Rez? Rez was a huge suspect of his, and imopen died.
"PIE. THAT'S WIFOM. imopen could have been killed because they thought he was a PR."
Not the smart kill to make when you have a mail-Watcher your buddy pushed on, whatever-the-fuck MJ is, and an Innocent Child. It's like Thoughtseizing over Hero's Downfall when you're staring down a Polukranos and a
Stormbreath Dragon and you get the idea.
"He could have been killed because he was the towniest vote on the wagon!"
Why am I not dead, then? Or Red? imopen switched to rcw with a very 'meh' attitude; I think there were more townie players on the wagon.
"He could have been killed to frame rez!"
Here it is.
Analyzing NKs is tricky, and most people stay away from it. The meta of ignoring NKs allows scum to quietly take out threats to their team because anyone analyzing the NK gets yelled at "IT'S WIFOM". This situation is interesting, though. Occam's Razor says the simplest reason for imopen's death was because he suspected Rez. Either this is true, or the scumteam wants to frame him.
If rez is scum, this is a good play. If rez is town, scum gain the ability to frame rez for the kill. However, most of today's discussion has revolved around players on the rcw wagon, as that's how things usually go. I'm wondering, why would scum kill imopen to frame rez but
then not bring it up at all today? They should know town would hunt on the wagon. But no one's brought it up. Interesting.
Framing rez also comes with the added bonus of pulling attention off hunting on the rcw wagon. Given I PoE'd townreads all over the wagon earlier, assuming my reads are right this supports my theory - why pull attention off the wagon when there's all town on the wagon?
So basically, since no one has come forward trying to wagon rez (until me, I guess) for imopen dying, it leads me to believe there was another reason for his death. Going back to my process of elimination, it just leaves imopen being a threat to Rez.
Sidenote - at the
very least, if I'm wrong, rez's lynch gives us a lot of info to work with - eliminates an off-the-wagon scumspect, confirms him as town which may help in rereading the rez/ham arguments, gives possible more insight into the scum NK last night... there's more substance here than, say, a Dechs lynch for an off-the-wagon
vote example.
Anyway, sorry for the mini-wall. I know this is a lot of WIFOM, but it's my full thought process for beginning to suspect rez. I'm going to clear my head for a bit, and later tonight I'll ISO Rez and try not to have any confirmation bias. If I can't find anything, this will look a bit silly. If I find some things... this is a nice supporting argument.
carry on.