[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

Christen · Postby **Christen** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:54 am

Geez, I just watched the finals of GPKC. People on Reddit are shitting on the guy because he "prematurely conceded," but let's be honest...he was playing Living End and it was turn 4 and he had 2 mana and no Cascade card in hand. That looked pretty unwinnable with or without the Faerie Macabre.

Did he concede on the deciding round? If not, then conceding is totally acceptable. Otherwise, there are ways to lose gracefully.

Calamity · Postby **Calamity** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:54 am

M14 looks pretty good for red...more than an average number of playables for sure.

rcwraspy · Postby **rcwraspy** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:07 pm

My friend is building BG control and wants me to run it at FNM next week while he runs Bant hexproof because he hasn't been able to run the hexproof deck yet. As much as I love mono red I may push it to the wayside to try this new deck out. It'll be the first time I've cast Thragtusk in 10 months so it will be cool casting overpowered cards again.

If you end up running it, post your list and results in the Primer on the Competitive section's main page (scroll down to see it). I'm the only one in there, other than Kaze throwing me a bone, so would love to see more activity in there.

Hope everybody had a fun 4th. I got off work early on Wednesday and my wife and I headed up to her parents' house in Maine. Thursday and Friday were beach days.
Then I made it down to the SCG Open in Worcester and scrubbed out. My friend went 1-3 drop with a slightly worse R/g Aggro deck that he brewed and refuses to adapt to the more powerful list. After I went 2-3 with the normal R/g list I dropped also, because he was my ride and he was tilting pretty horribly.

After I got home I sleeved up Jund. Going to test it out and see if I can play with the big kids. So far it seems to play similarly to my pet B/G Control deck but it's just much more consistent and powerful. I sleeved Reid Duke's GP Miami list just to get a feel for it (subbing 1x Garruk, Primal Hunter for 1x Garruk Relentless since I only own 1 Primal Hunter), and may make slight adjustments as I go.

I know I'm not a "good" Magic player. Right now I'd probably put myself at below average. But I keep heading to these tournaments, and one of my local FNMs is pretty competitive, and you guys rock, so I keep learning.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:56 pm

Looks like I'm taking a break for the M13-M14 transition period cause I can't make a deck without spending too much.

Yes you can.

[deck]Burn at the Stake[/deck]

Assuming you own most of the commons and uncommons, the only things worth more than $2.00 are the shocks while you probably are also likely to already own.

nAlso this deck rules because it is the definition of "going deep."

Link · Postby **Link** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:03 pm

the most expensive thing for Red right now is just Chandra, right? And even she isn't better than hellrider yet to need picking up.

Come on Christen, red mages have to revel in the chaos that is an 8-set standard

Link · Postby **Link** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:07 pm

Looks like I'm taking a break for the M13-M14 transition period cause I can't make a deck without spending too much. The red hate card is better than I expected (expected=crap). I kinda wish it was also hasted.

Here's to hoping Theros gives us good burn. Lightning Bolt+Shock standard would be nice.

Yeah I don't see why they couldn't give it haste. I guess 3/3 with haste was too strong and a 3/2 would die to snapcaster mage (who's rotating so moot), but it having the same keyword as the WHTIE hate card....which hates on red... it just feels pretty awkward and poorly done.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:16 pm

Looks like I'm taking a break for the M13-M14 transition period cause I can't make a deck without spending too much. The red hate card is better than I expected (expected=crap). I kinda wish it was also hasted.

Here's to hoping Theros gives us good burn. Lightning Bolt+Shock standard would be nice.
Yeah I don't see why they couldn't give it haste. I guess 3/3 with haste was too strong and a 3/2 would die to snapcaster mage (who's rotating so moot), but it having the same keyword as the WHTIE hate card....which hates on red... it just feels pretty awkward and poorly done.[/quote:
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It has first strike...

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:43 pm

Looks like I'm taking a break for the M13-M14 transition period cause I can't make a deck without spending too much.
Yes you can.

[deck]Burn at the Stake[/deck]

Assuming
you own most of the commons and uncommons, the only things worth more than $2.00 are the shocks while you probably are also likely to already own.

Also this deck rules because it is the definition of "going deep."

I'm going to play this until rotation, giving me something to troll the kids at my LGS with while I sell off my standard stuff.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:47 pm

Trading Post reprint?

LOVE that card. Must resist urge to make bad artifact deck.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:52 pm

Trading Post is cool but has literally no support in the format right now.

Link · Postby **Link** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:58 pm

Looks like I'm taking a break for the M13-M14 transition period cause I can't make a deck without spending too much. The red hate card is better than I expected (expected=crap). I kinda wish it was also hasted.

Here's to hoping Theros gives us good burn. Lightning Bolt+Shock standard would be nice.
Yeah I don't see why they couldn't give it haste. I guess 3/3 with haste was too strong and a 3/2 would die to snapcaster mage (
who's rotating so moot), but it having the same keyword as the WHTIE hate card....which hates on red... it just feels pretty awkward and poorly done.
It has first strike...

I'm saying if it had haste instead of first strike as its key word, it'd die to snapcaster mage and that wouldn't be very "hate" like? That's the reason ash zealot has first strike too.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:00 pm

Trading Post is cool but has literally no support in the format right now.

Hopefully the M14 reprints of Trading Post and Darksteel Forge are hinting toward some awesome artifacts in Theros.

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:43 pm

Suga, you got CI banned with a grand total of 12 posts.

Bravo!

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:53 pm

Looks like I'm taking a break for the M13-M14 transition period cause I can't make a deck without spending too much. The red hate card is better than I expected (expected=crap). I kinda wish it was also hasted.

Here's to hoping Theros gives us good burn. Lightning Bolt+Shock standard
would be nice.
Yeah I don't see why they couldn't give it haste. I guess 3/3 with haste was too strong and a 3/2 would die to snapcaster mage (who's rotating so moot), but it having the same keyword as the WHTIE hate card....which hates on red... it just feels pretty awkward and poorly done.
It has first strike...
I'm saying if it had haste instead of first strike as its key word, it'd die to snapcaster mage and that wouldn't be very "hate" like? That's the reason ash zealot has first strike too.

Sure.

Also, mirrored hate cards are nothing new. See Black Knight vs White Knight and Knight of Glory vs Knight of Infamy. Wizards typically does this with enemy colors.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:12 pm

Suga, you got CI banned with a grand total of 12 posts.

Bravo!

Thank you good sir! I worked hard for that banning.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:06 pm

What the fuck is a CI ban?

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:09 pm

Community Issues ban from MTGS.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:11 pm

It's part of Teia's reclamation defense justification, or something.

In other words: wat

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:14 pm

What the fuck is a CI ban?

He was causing too many issues with the community of Community Issues so he had to go.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:15 pm

CI ban = member of FoS.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:17 pm

Wow, reading some of this CI drama is funny. They're not even trying to hide it anymore, they're basically admitting that they're banning any DTR member just to do it. Sene especially, which doesn't shock me considering how much of a buttmad keyboard warrior he's always been.

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:30 pm

MTGS has become one of those sites I go to out of habit every now and then simply to sift through the ruins of our once great civilization.

The fact that the barbarians are now sodomizing each other in those haunted ruins is repulsive, but nothing to devote any real amount of attention to.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:36 pm

I still go there to check out their deck building forums. I obviously don't post because I'll be banned, but I do read. I do like to argue that Stonewright is useful in any deck though.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:23 pm

The R/x Aggro subforum shall henceforth be known as Academy Ruins. I pour out fireball whiskey in its memory.

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:30 pm

Take my love,
Take my land,
Take me where I cannot stand.

I don't care,
I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:32 pm

You can wear my sweater.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:33 pm

Nathan Fillion would play red.

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:34 pm

You can wear my sweater.

And my bow.

And my hat.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:35 pm

Andy Dick would play red's dick.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:36 pm

You can wear my sweater.

And my hat.

I've always wanted that hat. I need to buy the damn thing.

Self Medicated · Postby **Self Medicated** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:49 pm

Ugh. Just ripped off half the nail on my index finger after closing a pair of pneumatic grips on it. Fuck man, finger injuries bleed like a stuck pig.

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:51 pm

Ugh. Just ripped off half the nail on my index finger after closing a pair of pneumatic grips on it. Fuck man, finger injuries bleed like a stuck pig.

You have never in your life had good news...

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:53 pm

Ugh. Just ripped off half the nail on my index finger after closing a pair of pneumatic grips on it. Fuck man, finger injuries bleed like a stuck pig.

You have never in your life had good news...

Did you ever consider making a 2014 calendar with shots of your penis?

That would be the good news he needs.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:54 pm

Ugh. Just ripped off half the nail on my index finger after closing a pair of pneumatic grips on it. Fuck man, finger injuries bleed like a stuck pig.

You have never in your life had good news...
Did you ever consider making a 2014 calendar with shots of your penis?

That would be the
good news he needs.

He'd have to buy a wide angle lens first.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:56 pm

I'd send him one if I could get a free copy.

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:03 pm

Ugh. Just ripped off half the nail on my index finger after closing a pair of pneumatic grips on it. Fuck man, finger injuries bleed like a stuck pig.

You have never in your life had good news...
Did you ever consider making a 2014 calendar with shots of your penis?

That would be the good news he
needs.

Excuse me, sir! Have you heard the Good News?
The Bible?
Better! The new 2014 redthirst Penis Calendar!

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:10 pm

Ugh. Just ripped off half the nail on my index finger after closing a pair of pneumatic grips on it. Fuck man, finger injuries bleed like a stuck pig.

nYou have never in your life had good news...
Did you ever consider making a 2014 calendar with shots of your penis?

That would be the good news he needs.
Excuse me, sir! Have you heard the Good News?
The Bible?
Better! The new 2014 redthirst Penis Calendar!

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:49 pm

I might stick some Phoenix in my RDW deck this season, otherwise, I ain't touchin' this set.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:16 pm

Am I the only one excited about M14? Seriously! Phoenix reprint (I still have my foil set, I just have to rescue them from a Modern deck), Mutavault (lovingly known as "Big Mudes"), Burning Earth (I heard of trimming the hedges, but you done scorched da Erff!), Young Pyromancer (ain't got nothing for this one, sorry), new Chandra (still rockin' dem thunder thighs!), Shock (don't laugh, but now I can use my cool, old-art ones!), Mindsparker (Sparky?), and a slew of EDH goodies like Ring of 3 Wishes and Dark Prophecy.

Way better than DZM.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:51 pm

I'm totally using that Young Pyromancer deck at the first standard after release.

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