Dies to Removal

Product announced on Pro Tour Gatecrash by Hill and Sutcliffe, made to celebrate the twenty years of MtG.

Known facts:
- This product is packed with 20 cards instead of the traditional 15 cards from previous From the Vaults;
- The product is also going to feature a card from a winning deck from each year of Magic existence.

Release date: August 23, 2013
MSRP: $39,99
Product concept and develop team: Gavin Verhey and Jeremy Jarvis
Twitter Hashtag: #ftv20

Did they define "winning deck" ? Like worlds or something?

No info on that yet.

Since this is some big deal FTV (20th anniversary) I wonder if they will risk putting one of these mythical (pun intended) uncommons like Mana Drain or Force of Will at the risk of making the decks a huge speculators/hoarders target. Doing this would likely piss the regular magic Joe who wouldn't be able to get his hands on one unless they would jack up the product quantities, but given the precedent of the commanders arsenal product...

Verhey's developing it? I hope it won't be full of OP, money rares like Gatecrash!

maybe we can have one of the cards be gutter grime, guttersnipe or gutter skulk

So she's got white hair, a green staff, blue magic, and a skull in the background, where's the red?

There is a little red dot next to the word "live." you must have missed it

How very meta of you.

I'm going to laugh so hard if it's T2 winning Decks from the last 20 years.

Necro, Cycle Enchant, Ravenger, Bitterblossom, BBE/Blighting, Goblin Guide

I bet a dragonstorm card will be in there, everyone couldn't shut the fuck up about that deck Chapin made yonks ago

so one of each basic then fifteen cards?

Zoo was another huge deck

Faries will definitely get a spot. Oh god jund too

JTMS/Sword and Birds. I wonder what one will get in?

(Birds)

Faries will definitely get a spot. Oh god jund too

second Jund...

lol
V. Clique from Fae. BBE or Blightning from Jund. SFM from Cawblade. Necro probably has a spot here. Lin Sivi too. Arcbound Ravager?

lol
V. Clique from Fae. BBE or Blightning from Jund. SFM from Cawblade. Necro probably has a spot here. Lin Sivi too. Arcbound Ravager?

Definitely Ravager.

Zoo is one of the biggest though.

Fish possibly? Definitely a mono blue draw go deck

They really dropped the ball when they closed the loop for not reprinting foils from the reserved list, because it must have been really funny when selecting the most memorable Urza's Saga card:

- Obv. Tolarian Academy
- Nope. Reserved List
- [card=Yawgmoth's Win]Yawgmoth's Will[/card]?
- Reserved
- Karn, Silver Golem, Masticore, [card]Gaea's Cradle[/card], Phyrexian Negator, Powder Keg?
- Sorry
- ... not Voltaic Key again >.<

They really dropped the ball when they closed the loop for not reprinting foils from the reserved list, because it must have been really funny when selecting the most memorable Urza's Saga card:

- Obv. Tolarian Academy
- Nope. Reserved List
- [card=Yawgmoth's Win]Yawgmoth's Will[/card]?
- Reserved
- Karn, Silver Golem, Masticore, [card]Gaea's Cradle[/card], Phyrexian Negator, Powder Keg?
- Sorry
- ... not Voltaic Key again >.<

Show and tell. It was in bargain decks or something.

Crop rotation

I suspect Jace or Stoneforge and Force of Will. They're sitting on that new art and instead rereleasing Mother of Runes.

I suspect Jace or Stoneforge and Force of Will. They're sitting on that new art and instead rereleasing Mother of Runes.

Stoneforge seems more likely

Jace and FoW would make this thing incredibly hard to get without sawing off an arm and a leg.

StoneForge was in a Intro Pack already.

I got it before They Printed Swords and it seems weird to print it again IMO.

they were both integral parts of the deck, but you could still do well with Belerens instead of TMS and SFM was still a beating.

like you remove Jace you could get by. You remove stoneforge... the deck is just Caw-Go

StoneForge was in a Intro Pack already.

I got it before They Printed Swords and it seems weird to print it again IMO.

intro pack =/= event deck

StoneForge was in a Intro Pack already.

I got it before They Printed Swords and it seems weird to print it again IMO.

So many cards in FTV sets were in pre made decks, and jace is only good in old formats so he had a price drop. Stoneforge is also only a rare.

Dude, JTMS is back at 100$

Fuck me

I have 1, I should sell it.

But basically what Yanni said, its the big important card of caw blade unlike jace which is just a good card

like didn't UB control steam roll cawgo in that tournament?

Considering the Squadron Hawks were added as a way to combat UB Control, no.

I meant worlds

Some card called Jace, the mind sculptor has been confirmed for this.

In retrospect it is not very surprising although:

Picture Kijin sitting at a desk with 16 phones on it, calling every place he knows to buy these, all at the same time

mancierage

Picture Kijin sitting at a desk with 16 phones on it, calling every place he knows to buy these, all at the same time

I can picture this very clearly