Bioshock Mafia (Town Win)

[Kazekirimaru]

Kay.

[Captain Murphy]

This is all very interesting but there is a reason for untainted town/scum lists

Can we please continue and finish these quickly

[Stardust]

TubeHunter, what's the difference between this game and last? You suddenly don't like Mafia?

[TubeHunter]

It's not mafia, its just me right now.I have had a lot of stress put upon me this past week and a half, what with School papers, scholarships, college visits, Play production, football, blowing my knee out, ect. has smothered my desire to really get into it atm. With KNM i stuck to it cause it was almost the end anyways(and almost a foregone conclusion that i was going to get lynched), but this game is in only the first stages yet. I don't know, I hate quitting on something I started, but I also don't like doing something like a game of mafia when I know I won't be giving 100% to it. I'll try to stick with it I guess, cause I'm sure replacements fuck up the dynamic of the game like no other. T/S list coming sometime in the future.

[Yannaria]

sorry for berating you about replacing earlier. Personal life comes before internet forum reply games and if you need to replace, do it.

[Stardust]

Let's just get this done so CM can stop convulsing and we can move on.

G_R
imopen2
Captain Murphy
Tubehunter
rezombad

Just post your list when you're online. We need direction, but waiting for this is killing our momentum.

[imopen2]

I have my list written already, I just need to get home, change a couple things in light of recent events, and it will be good to go. Should be able to do it tonight at some point

[Kazekirimaru]

WitchHunt, TubeHunter, tell me why your vote is still on RedNihilist, please.

Nice! That’s what I remembered! Pushing lurking players to post is townie. Pushing them to defend a wagon that has little substance reeks of trying to drum up support for the wagon-du-jour. Especially since you included Witchhunter, who is town until further notice. You knew they would unvote and were counting on them jumping onto imopen.

Stardust's analysis here is 100% accurate, by the way.

I'm not even being sarcastic, that was exactly my intention.

I wanted imopen2's lynch. I
needed more votes.

[Stardust]

Why bring that up now? Not feeling self-conscious, are you?

[Kazekirimaru]

Because I thought about it in the car on the way home from work. My eyes kinda glazed over reading your analysis a bit but this stuck out because it was true. I dunno.

+ I feel being transparent about my intentions helps the town. If there's somebody who I feel needs a rope, I'm going to try my damned hardest to make it happen.

[Kazekirimaru]

Why do you feel I'm doing a bad job this game, Stardust?

[Stardust]

Spamming, jumping on nothing, ramping up wagons for weak reasons, insulting others (end result being less involvement from certain players), working towards lynching the claimed cop... I think that's everything...

[Kazekirimaru]

How is spamming poor play and not just a playstyle quirk?

That I'm "jumping on nothing" is your opinion.

Again, my reasons being weak is your opinion, not to mention wagons are a tool and I treat them as such.

I don't insult people genuinely. Everything I say is in context to the game and not meant to be taken seriously. Aggression gets reactions; reactions beget reads.

You're assuming I was trying to get him lynched. Quit pretending like you have any idea what I'm doing/how I play.

There is one thing I'll own up to and that's that my aggression hasn't gotten me nearly as far on this site as it does on my homesite. DTR takes cues from MTGS meta and as such I'm a bit stilted and awkward as to how I'm supposed to scumhunt here, especially when we claim at L-2 and not L-1 with intent to hammer. Not to mention this playerbase seems to laugh under pressure instead of crack(how upsetting!) This
taken into account, I've been trying to adapt as of late.

[Col. Khaddafi]

This Day one got even more boring than I could possibly hope for it to be.

Can we just skip the popcorn order and the remaining people post their reads in a first come first served basis? Jeez

[( G_R )]

GR down on the project room for the day, too many people including boss and boss' boss. GR already started typing T/S list on laptop and will finish and post when coast is clear. On phone now, pooping.

[( G_R )]

1. Kazekirimaru - Scum: GR "what-are-the-odds" syndrome with him made GR label him as null at first, but GR latest wagon analysis put him on top of GR scum list. Like someone stated, if he's town, he's doing it wrong and GR wouldn't even regret to see a town flip after he hangs. His ability better be even more useless than GR's in that case, though.
2. Yannaria - Scum: Also had his behavior as a null tell at first, because of his usual playstyle, but wagon analysis also makes him a big suspect. As GR stated before, his pulling out of imopen2's wagon first gave him a little breathing room.
3. G_R - Town:
4. imopen2 - Town: GR find his claim
   convincing. No CC makes it even better. Doc the cop.
5. DroppinSuga - Leaning Scum: At least one scum is mega-lurking and GR happen to believe it might be him
6. Captain Murphy - Town: Had him as null at first, GR wagon analysis and active scumhunting make GR very comfortable with a townie Murphy
7. Tubehunter - Leaning Town: GR also liked him for a lurking scum, his latest drop in interest kinda seems townie to GR.
8. Lord_McDonalds - Post more, could be scum: Another candidate for our lurking scum
9. rezombad - Town: His actions differ a lot from his last scum game, and for a newbie player, he's unlikely to be faking it.
10. Colonel Khaddafi - Null: GR bet he's got something interesting to do tonight. He needs to be looked at closer tomorrow.
11. Stardust (formerly RedNihilist) - Leaning town: GR reread of the game for wagon analysis showed GR that he was likely being set for a lynch by scum. Busing is still a thing, though, but 'dust hasn't done anything that pops out as scummy so far, that GR recall.
12. WitchHunt - Town: Another convincing claim, GR initial suspicions were disipated by it. Also his wagon picking up steam the way it did, when looking at him as townie, looks like scum were liking him a lot for a lynch.

[Kazekirimaru]

Vote: Gaea's Regent

[Kazekirimaru]

1. Kazekirimaru - Scum: GR "what-are-the-odds" syndrome with him made GR label him as null at first, but GR latest wagon analysis put him on top of GR scum list. Like someone stated, if he's town, he's doing it wrong and GR wouldn't even regret to see a town flip after he hangs. His ability better be even more useless than GR's in that case, though.

Scum found.

[Captain Murphy]

I kinda feel the same with some players kaze (Lord maccas) and I don't find it a scumtell because on top of being scummy, you are hurting the town

Lynching someone who hurts the town? Fine by me. I'll post my list soon.

[( G_R )]

Except GR pretty confident you WON'T flip town, Kaze. Still holding that vote until T/S lists are all here.

[imopen2]

1. Kazekirimaru – Pushed a couple wagons to claim. Says he is scumhunting but I don’t like his behavior in joining my wagon, or how he stayed on it once I claimed. Leaning Scum
2. Yannaria – Yanni always seems to play like a scumbag. He jumps around his vote a lot and rarely for any good reason. I think his behavior so far has been null.
3. G_R – He’s been town in all the games I’ve played with him and he is acting differently than in those games. Not only the speaking in third person thing but his play seems a bit off. I like his analysis of Yanni and Kaze’s votes but this could easily be busing. Leaning scum.
4. imopen2 – Me. Town
5. DroppinSuga – Barely any posts so far. A couple were fluff and a couple were about not bringing townies to L-2 in order to keep info at a minimum. I agree with this but it seems a
little late now to be saying that. Maybe if you had said something earlier I wouldn’t have had to out myself as the Cop. Post more. Null.
6. Captain Murphy – One of the few people I feel confident is Town.
7. Tubehunter – Not a ton of content. I think this is only his second game of mafia so I’d like to see more attempts at scumhunting, if he needs to replace out that is ok with me. I’ve torn my acl and it is not fun. You might like being in this game post-surgery though, when you are bed ridden for several days…Null for now.
8. Lord_McDonald – Post more about mafia, less about muse. Null.
9. rezombad – Tunneling me hard for most of the game. Still trying to lynch me even though I can get a lot of valuable information for the town. I held my tongue for Murphy’s sake, but post 455 bothers the hell out of me.

Can we make witch name someone else? We do have a
deadline.

Can we have imopen clear CM or me as town? Id rather have a good confirmed town than maybe getting a scum or confirming a bad townie.

First of all, worried about a deadline that is three weeks away? Someone is eager for night, or a mislynch.

Second, directing me to use my investigation on you or CM reeks of a Godfather. Using the ability on CM would also be a waste since he is pretty much confirmed town anyways.

Why the fuck would you be happier with me confirming CM as town than me finding a scum? We find a scum, we lynch the scum…
Scum
10. Colonel Khaddafi – He hates Day 1. I hate day 1 too. Get over it Leaning Town
11. Stardust – Didn’t have a strong read on Red and now dusty has replaced in. We’ll see. Null
12. Witchhunter – Came off scummy at first but his claim seemed genuine. Leaning
Town.

withholding moving my vote till all the lists are in

[imopen2]

Mod, any chance you could edit my post so the quotes work? i was going to preview it to make sure it worked but hit submit out of habit...either way i guess

[Kazekirimaru]

No. Lynching someone who is seen as a liability to town even if they are a townslot is not a good deal. We're supposed to be hunting scum. Professing to pick off people who aren't scum is the epitome of scummy.

And I swear to God you're all fucking parrots. What have I done to hurt the town, exactly? You claim that it's my fault 2(3?) PRs are claimed out. I DIDN'T PUSH THOSE WAGONS BY MY FUCKING SELF PEOPLE

GR is very likely scum. Look at imopen2 after you all realize that, btw. He's scum, too.

[Kazekirimaru]

++ Look into the possibility of a scum who stayed off every major wagon. I'm sure there's at least one that did.

[rezombad]

1. Kazekirimaru Scumish might be town. Something is bothering me about this read but I can't clear you as town and you're acting anti-town sometimes
2. Yannaria scum Gut feeling here.
3. G_R Scumish I'm enjoying most of gr's posts. Except the last one pointed at kaze is pure fluff. I like how he noticed some of the voting patterns that have been happening. But am bothered that he thinks Kaze pushed the imopen wagon. I'll have to do a reread on Kaze and G_R
4. imopen2 Town I got some scummy vibes but I'm willing to keep an open mind. your explanation of how I'm scum makes no sense. I could modgame like crazy but I'd feel a lot better with 100% confirming someone who appears very towny than confirming someone who is bad. The
bad player will have more sway and we might lose. That's just based on some crap I've read on the wiki and am open to other ideas. That said, please explain to me how you think wanting to clear town is scummy. I'm willing to believe your role for day1, but you are acting scum as fuck. Oh, and my vote isn't even on you.
5. DroppinSuga Post More
6. Captain Murphy Town
7. Tubehunter Post More
8. Lord_McDonalds Post More
9. rezombad Town
10. Colonel Khaddafi Post More
11. Stardust Scum I need to do an in-depth of stardust and nihilists posts and stances.
12. WitchHunt Town noob falseclaiming watcher? I wouldn't
believe it.

[rezombad]

Of the 3 wagons; Rednihilist, imopen2, witchhunt

Rednihilist, LMD, and Suga were the only ones not involved in any wagons.

[rezombad]

But am bothered that he thinks Kaze pushed the imopen wagon.

Disregard that, I suck cocks.

Mis-remembering things. This is why I reread the game.

[( G_R )]

RE GR Kaze read: Why fluff? GR made an analysis of the wagons, GR even have a nice little spreadsheet about it, and GR main finding is that GR pretty sure either Kaze, Yanni or both are scum based on vote movement. Other posts of them (like the safeclaim thing, and the unvote from Yanni) made them move relatively to each other on GR scum scale. If you think they're town please let GR know why they shouldn't be lynched (unless your name is Kaze and are OMGUS voting GR right after GR declared that GR about to vote you).

Of the 3 wagons; Rednihilist, imopen2, witchhunt

Rednihilist, LMD, and Suga were the only ones not involved in any wagons.

Nice finding, LMD and Suga going up on GR scum scale as the passive scum candidates.

[Captain Murphy]

1. Kazekirimaru- Scum. Being on every major wagon, acting overly defensive to a single vote and cracking under pressure, OMGUS voting me and then changing to another wagon and on top of that insulting others and claiming its all an "agressive playstyle"
2. Yannaria- Null. Done some scum and some town stuff so I'm stuck on the fence.
3. G_R- Town. One of the only people actually hunting. On top of that it seems the scummiest thing he is being hit with is talking in 3rd person, who the fuck cares?
4. imopen2- Town because of claim
5. DroppinSuga- Leaning scum. Not making enough posts and then when asked to make larger posts to help with a RL situation, responds with "Its not my playstyle". No excuse for lurking like that.
6. Captain Murphy
7. Tubehunter- Null from lurking, need more posts.
8. Lord_McDonalds-Scum. There is no way you can actively lurk so much in a game and then say you have a null
read on everyone. Get fucked.
9. rezombad-Town, One of the other only hunting townies.
10. Colonel Khaddafi- Null. Same as Yanni, some scummy stuff, some townie stuff.
11. Stardust (formerly RedNihilist)- Null because of lack of posts but the few stardust posts thusfar give me mixed feelings.
12. WitchHunt- Town from claim.

I'm happy for a Lord maccas or kaze lynch, they are both scummy and are hurting the game for different reasons. I will have a nice post with info from the T/S lists.

[Captain Murphy]

is it just imopen and tubehunter to post lists now?

[Captain Murphy]

About night actions tonight:
Witch watches imopen while imopen cops someone from a list of 3 people we pick (to avoid scum involvement by having the target laid out).

The vig (if we have one) should shoot one of the scummy lurkers (Lord maccas, DroppinSuga)

And if we have a doc, please doc witch

[Kazekirimaru]

lmfao if the scumteam really is GR, imopen, Captain ima die laughing.

This is too rich.

You're all just parroting each other.

[Captain Murphy]

I personally would like N_S to be the cop target, but again I think its bet to give 3 options and let the cop decide

[Captain Murphy]

lmfao if the scumteam really is GR, imopen, Captain ima die laughing.

This is too rich.

You're all just parroting each other.

I was the first to apply pressure to you

I have constantly pushed you

I don't want to lynch the cop day one considering that if imopen is actually scum we can attempt one of the other scum to be killed instead of risking killing the cop day 1.

Cop is the best role for the town IMO

But thank you for saying we all don't have a mind of our own

[Mcdonalds]

Can we just drop the T/S list thing and lynch kaze, he's pretty obviously caught scum.

[rezombad]

I'm not feeling the best about a Kaze lynch day1. I'd feel better with stardust.

G_R has been on every wagon except for rednihilist. And since I think he might have been scum it makes sense for him to save red early on and shift focus to witchhunt and completely ignore witch saying he was a complete noob while pointing out that red is nooby and we shouldnt vote for him for that. Then imopen (who is being scum as fuck) goes and calls g_r, kaze (major wagon right now), and me (omgus) scum in his reads.

scumteam: Stardust, G_R, imopen

[rezombad]

unvote kaze

[Captain Murphy]

Can we just drop the T/S list thing and lynch kaze, he's pretty obviously caught scum.

This makes me want you lynched even more

[Captain Murphy]

I feel better about a Lord maccas or Droppin day 1 lynch tbh

[Captain Murphy]

But yeah, I want the rest of the lists so I can look at some interesting things....