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Postby Helios » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:42 am

I was totally joking re: the french, cultural stereotypes are just stupid. They make for good comedy though.
I need to replace my desktop machine, but damn I do not want to get rid of my Mac. Thing's at least 7 years old and besides being a tad slow sometimes, it does what I need it to do. I've never had a problem with it. And you can pry my iPad 2 from my cold, dead fingers. :)
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Postby RedNihilist » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:17 am

As for the "surrendering" part. Hai. Hitler was a thing. France was small, the Wehrmacht was not. Not to mention the British and Belgians got their asses stomped, too.
Technically speaking France is bigger than Germany summed to Austria.
Let's just say that Europe was not ready for a war based upon tanks rather than infantry, and France was too confident on the existence of the Maginot line.

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Postby RedNihilist » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:18 am

I'm 1/4th French FYI.
So, your surname is french? I thought you were of italian descent :frown:

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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:20 am

No my dad is Italian lol.

I have 4 grand parents, 1 is French.
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Postby RedNihilist » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:29 am

I never understood the stereotype that the French are cowards/bad at war or whatever. For one they had the era of Napoleon (i know he wasn't French but still).
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Postby RedNihilist » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:30 am

No my dad is Italian lol.

I have 4 grand parents, 1 is French.
Yay for Italy! :jam:

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:35 am

Italian's are worse then the French. What's with all that hand waving while talking? That shit's unnecessary. And why are the suits so goddamn expensive?

Displeased.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:39 am

You have no idea how well my heritage worked for me with the ladies.
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Postby RedNihilist » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:43 am

Italian's are worse then the French. What's with all that hand waving while talking? That shit's unnecessary.
It's called multimedia.
And why are the suits so goddamn expensive?
No idea - I'm a programmer, I've never worn a suit.
In fact, I own more kilts than suits.

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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:56 am

Don't hate LP, we're emotional people.

We don't judge you guys for Ceddy P.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:58 am

In all the foreign countries I've been to, being a black American has generally been a massive boon(heh) with the ladies. Pretty sure the uniform helped, but not as much as being classy as fuck.

@Z: Don't you hate black people? Filthy casual.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:05 am

Nah I hate white people. Not because of white guilt or anything stupid, just because we're whiny. Pip's my first white girl friend. Guess what the others were (not all the same).
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:16 am

Give me a number(last 5 say) and lets see how close I get.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:17 am

3.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:20 am

are we counting Europeans as white?

Cause that cuts out French, british, and german.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:22 am

Sure, Europeans are white. We're not counting Pippy obv.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:23 am

Japanese, Indian, Black.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:28 am

1/3 but I like your style.

Japanese, Thai, Persian.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:29 am

PEEEEEEEEEEEEERSIAN.

I knew that!

I figured I should have gone with to oriental ethnicities based on proximity reasons, but figured I'd get spicy with my choices.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:32 am

Indian was a very good choice, there's a sizeable Indian community here.

Black isn't because there just aren't many here, and it's a numbers game.

Japanese was probably obvious ^____^
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:46 am

http://www.starcitygames.com/article/27 ... -Soon.html

For everyone trying to get better at cardboard, this is a good read. The most important takeaway and something Z tries to emphasive:

Step3: Don't memorize, Understand.

Once you understand how things work, magic gets a LOT easier(still hard).
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Platypus » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:43 am

^Yeah, this is so true. I'm starting to feel that I finally starting to understand why some lists work and others don't. Comparing last seasons lists and what I played, with my early Theros standard builds and the different YP lists, Red Devotion, and Br builds, have really caused this change.

If I only could get to some FNMs someday...
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Postby RedNihilist » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:46 am

Speaking of understanding how lists work... I've built Naya Control and I was tempted to try it on friday, but after two days of playtesting I just don't get how that's supposed to beat Control.

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Postby photodyer » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:14 pm

1/3 but I like your style.

Japanese, Thai, Persian.
This I can see 100%, though honestly I would have guessed more Indian than Asian allure even given your love of anime.
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Postby Yarpus » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:25 pm

France has never won a war in it's history.
Redacted, because you don't even deserve a response Yarp.
Well yeah sure. Have fun on your fucking high mountain.
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Postby Jack » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:03 pm

I nominate Nuwen as "official clan knowledge-dropper of the Fires of Salvation"

That is all.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:43 pm

Speaking of understanding how lists work... I've built Naya Control and I was tempted to try it on friday, but after two days of playtesting I just don't get how that's supposed to beat Control.
Game 1 is bad depending on how you draw as your deck is something like 12 dead removal spells. However, postboard, you have something like 8/9 cards that win the game unanswered(xenagos/Elspeth/assemble the legion) to go along with cards that threats that they struggle to interact with efficiently(Selesnya keyrune of all things, stormbreath dragon).

Also, Advent and selesnya charm give you a bevy of flash creatures that grant varying degrees of pressure. Sunhome guildmage is also cute.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:49 pm

France has never won a war in it's history.
Redacted, because you don't even deserve a response Yarp.
Well yeah sure. Have fun on your fucking high mountain.


List of major wars France have won (copypasta)

Wars of Charlemagne (768-814) Norman Conquest of England (1066) First Crusade (1096-99) Hundred Years' War (1337-1453) War of the Holy League (1508-16) Franco-Spanish War (1635) Franco-Dutch War (1678) War of the Reunions (1683-84) War of the Quadruple Alliance (1718-20) War of the Austrian Succession (1740-48) American Revolutionary War (1775-1783) French Revolutionary Wars (1792-1802) (this is not the French Revolution) War of the First Coalition (1793-97) War of the Second Coalition (1799-
1802) War of the Oranges (1801) War of the Third Coalition (1803-06) War of the Fourth Coalition (1806-07) War of the Fifth Coalition (1809) Greek War of Independence (1821-30) French Conquest of Algeria (1830-47) Crimean War (1853-56) Second Opium War (1856-60) Second Italian War of Independence (1859) Mandingo Wars (1883-98) Sino-French War (1884-85) First Franco-Dahomean War (1890) Second Franco-Dahomean War (1892-94) Franco-Siamese War (1893) Boxer Rebellion (1899-1901) Wadai War (1909-11) World War I (1914-18) Rif War (1920) World War II (1939-45) Gulf War (1990-91)

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Postby DerWille » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:58 pm

http://www.starcitygames.com/article/27 ... -Soon.html

For everyone trying to get better at cardboard, this is a good read. The most important takeaway and something Z tries to emphasive:

Step3: Don't memorize, Understand.

Once you understand how things work, magic gets a LOT easier(still hard).
This falls under the practice part of his article, but one of the big rules for learning I discovered from PUA is for every hour of theory, have two hours in the field. For magic, I read a few things on here and then try them out at the next magic tournament (if I can, I still want to try letting my red go first post board... :? ).

I've been using
the rule for when I teach myself how to draw. I try to watch a 5 to 15 minute video on whatever topic I'm working on (usually rewatching one) and then I draw for half an hour.

It's been pretty solid for keeping focused and not becoming paralyzed from information overload or tricking yourself into believing that you practiced by reading a book instead of doing whatever it is.

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Postby redthirst » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:18 pm

If anyone wants one, I can get you a genuine French military rifle - pristine condition - never fired, only dropped once.

As for girls dated: 1 Hispanic, 1 Black, 1 European Latin, lots of whites. I wish we had more Asians around here. :frown:
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Postby windstrider » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:26 pm

I need to replace my desktop machine, but damn I do not want to get rid of my Mac. Thing's at least 7 years old and besides being a tad slow sometimes, it does what I need it to do. I've never had a problem with it. And you can pry my iPad 2 from my cold, dead fingers. :)
Oh Dan...do a search and look at the new Macs that are coming out. The entire freakin' box is a little cylinder that is supposedly going to house a workstation-class machine. Sexy...
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:29 pm

If anyone wants one, I can get you a genuine French military rifle - pristine condition - never fired, only dropped once.

As for girls dated: 1 Hispanic, 1 Black, 1 European Latin, lots of whites. I wish we had more Asians around here. :frown:
I've dated English, Italian, German, Ukrainian. A few flings with other girls. Love those Italians.

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Postby RedNihilist » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:30 pm

Speaking of understanding how lists work... I've built Naya Control and I was tempted to try it on friday, but after two days of playtesting I just don't get how that's supposed to beat Control.
Game 1 is bad depending on how you draw as your deck is something like 12 dead removal spells. However, postboard, you have something like 8/9 cards that win the game unanswered(xenagos/Elspeth/assemble the legion) to go along with cards that threats that they struggle to interact with efficiently(Selesnya keyrune of all things, stormbreath dragon).

Also, Advent and selesnya charm
give you a bevy of flash creatures that grant varying degrees of pressure. Sunhome guildmage is also cute.
IDK, I just can't adjust to such a plan honestly.
You basically start with 1/5 dead draws on G1, then just hope to overflood them in G2 and G3 with threats that are hard to deal with.
It gives me the same vibes as the Dega midrange build I've tried at the beginning of the season, it's like playing a watered-down Jund from last season.

Maybe I'm the one being wrong here, as my local meta features lots of control while MODO doesn't, yet this thing bothers me.

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Postby windstrider » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:44 pm

I was totally joking re: the french, cultural stereotypes are just stupid. They make for good comedy though.
I need to replace my desktop machine, but damn I do not want to get rid of my Mac. Thing's at least 7 years old and besides being a tad slow sometimes, it does what I need it to do. I've never had a problem with it. And you can pry my iPad 2 from my cold, dead fingers. :)
....And this is why I'm a fan of Apple products.
I am a big fan of how tightly Apple
controls the user interface of their products, especially the various flavors of OS X. Though it was a huge overhaul from Classic, OS X didn't require the user to relearn the system to interact with the computer. The programs all have the same basic layout, and they don't change things just to change things like Microsoft does. I hate the newest versions of Office on Windows machines for that reason.
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Postby redthirst » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:48 pm

I just hate Windows 8. I'd own an Apple product for the first time since the 80's simply to get away from Windows 8.
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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:06 pm

Re. all the French / European war silliness, I listen to a podcast called Dan Carlin's Hardcore History and he just did part 1 of a multi-part series about the buildup to World War I. It's really quite good, and I recommend the series about Genghis Khan.

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Postby DroppinSuga » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:13 pm

I named my son after Alexander the Great. :yes:
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Postby RedNihilist » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:20 pm

I named my son after Alexander the Great. :yes:
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Postby photodyer » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:21 pm

I need to replace my desktop machine, but damn I do not want to get rid of my Mac. Thing's at least 7 years old and besides being a tad slow sometimes, it does what I need it to do. I've never had a problem with it. And you can pry my iPad 2 from my cold, dead fingers. :)
Oh Dan...do a search and look at the new Macs that are coming out. The
entire freakin' box is a little cylinder that is supposedly going to house a workstation-class machine. Sexy...
Believe me, I don't need any convincing. My bank account, however, needs expanding before I can seriously consider a purchase like that.
You and me both, brother, but that thing is just so damn...sleek. I have to give it to Apple on the form factor thing...they are wicked designers.
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Postby windstrider » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:31 pm

Windows 8 is a perfect example of change for the sake of change, which is a horrible way to design a product. Incremental, evolutionary changes that build upon what the existing user base already knows and expects are much better than whatever the hell Microsoft is trying to do.

To use an analogy, the basic design of the automobile hasn't changed in over 100 years. To be sure, there have been many improvements to and changes in the technologies in automobiles, but the basic controls and layout haven't changed. As a user, I can get behind the wheel of almost any car and immediately understand the various controls and layout.

Microsoft doesn't seem to get that. I've been using computers for years and have taught various classes on how to use them, so it was unbelievably frustrating using one of the more recent versions of Word when I couldn't find the Print command. The document controls were hidden in the decorative
jewel in the upper left-hand corner whereas before that they were always in the menus. They took ten years of design and threw it all out, creating a barrier that didn't need to be there.

Apple ain't perfect (the new look of iOS 7 irks me to no end since it looks incomplete), but it at least tries to avoid nonsense like that.

@photo — I hadn't seen the new design before. Damn. That is impressive looking. Hopefully, it's not another Cube in the making.
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