Moral corruption and malicious attacks - the soap opera
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Either way, I'll concede the point about me calling the guy behind the gimmick sending that PM to ria a douchebag. Probably set the wrong tone here, even if that's the way I feel But like with everything else, I'm prepared to start on page 1 with that person as well. Whoever it is doesn't matter. I don't even care, nor do I want to find out. I've had my suspicions I suppose, but I'll let them remain as such and not think anymore about it.
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Well not kpaca but you know what I mean. I didn't open the spoiler box. The point was that it's better to be blunt and without a filter than to be indirect and passive aggressive.I'm not calling kpaca a douchebag, as I do not think kpaca is a douchebag. I think he's very blunt, but generally a good guy. That goes for pretty much all of you, by the way...
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Well, we tried. Across multiple threads, including a massive multi-choice poll thread. But the results of that poll only came in like a month later, and things were already going sour at that point. But I'm pretty sure I posted the result of the staff poll thread to Pegs.So why didn't you find out what the Staff wanted to do instead of offering To Settle things when you don't know if that is what the Staff Want.
Yeah, I obviously cannot guarantee anything one way orLike we say we are sorry.
You accept it.
Staff goes screw those Guys.
???
Profit?
the other. I'm only one individual, speaking for myself, and what I say isn't necessarily fact. I think the way forward is to say "we are both to blame for the outcome of the ridiculous drama this summer, let's try to learn from those mistakes, start from scratch again, and move on". But I do not know for sure if that is true, of course.
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Yeah, I obviously cannot guarantee anything one way or the other. I'm only one individual, speaking for myself, and what I say isn't necessarily fact. I think the way forward is to say "we are both to blame for the outcome of the ridiculous drama this summer, let's try to learn from those mistakes, start from scratch again, and move on". But I do not know for sure if that is true, of course.[/quote]Well, we tried. Across multiple threads, including a massive multi-choice poll thread. But the results of that poll only came in like a month later, and things were already going sour at that point. But I'm pretty sure I posted the result of the staff poll thread to Pegs.So why didn't you find out what the Staff wanted to do instead of offering To Settle things when you don't know if that is what the Staff Want.
[quote="Shalako » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:45 pm":
2yeyla8u]Like we say we are sorry.
You accept it.
Staff goes screw those Guys.
???
Profit?
then please suggest to other members of iridium to post thier views here , so we can get a complete picture.
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Crickey, Sene, you might want to stop before they find you in breach of Code of Conduct.
I also appreciate you laying your desires for the direction of the thread on the line like that, but I fear "forgive and forget" ain't an option just yet. It is a bit sad that the Gutterites here seem unwilling to forgo the "on trial" atmosphere like you did there, it would almost undoubtedly make things easier if more of the iridium felt like this wasn't a warzone.
I also appreciate you laying your desires for the direction of the thread on the line like that, but I fear "forgive and forget" ain't an option just yet. It is a bit sad that the Gutterites here seem unwilling to forgo the "on trial" atmosphere like you did there, it would almost undoubtedly make things easier if more of the iridium felt like this wasn't a warzone.
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6th August( N_S )' ban
Fast forward a week or so, and we have a situation where, from our point of view, Scumbag was trolling CI pretty relentlessly, and was posting in the Gutter to boast about his trolling and encouraged others to do the same. This was a pretty big problem in our eyes, and was making the Gutter the exact thing it shouldn't be (a troll central). Rather than penalizing the entire Gutter for this kind of troublemaking, we were talking about what to do with Scumbag. Banning was indeed brought up as a possibility in the Global Lounge, but it was abandoned rather quickly. After discussion between the admins, we decided to just infract the posts in question.
[...] and because of all the trouble
Scumbag had caused recently, we decided to go with the ban. There was maybe one staff member who disagreed, I think.
Yup. this last rules BS made me understand that the current administration is corrupt beyond any possible repair.
I'm done caring about shit like that, I mean, I have a multi million € research going at full steam, what the fuck am I doing with my life, trying to argue with a bunch of neckbearded manchildren trying to act like they're the Thomas Jefferson of magic cards forums? Lord am I stupid.
From now on its just tbgte and gang activity. Gonna try to have fun around here while the remaining good places of this site still stand.
Hey, one more retroactive infraction.
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I'm at work, so all I can do is skim. But, I have a question.
Sene...
Sene...
You'll remember that I was still staff at this time and incredibly involved in this entire debacle (as well as I could be, at least.) So, could you kindly tell me who the hell you are talking about? Because the only time I know of that anybody changed their mind during this time would have been to switch from "CLOSE IT FOR GOOD" to "Eh, compromise'll be alright." I do not recall ANYONE doing what you've said many did.Many staffers were sympathetic during TBCITE, but turned around during pegs negotiations due to the attitude there and elsewhere.
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Yes as an involved party (a rather actively involved party at that) part of the shit storm was certainly my fault. However, this does not justify my banning.@EU: I'll speak on my own behalf, I won't speak for others. And while we are at it, in case you're wondering, this is all mine, I didn't consult anyone before posting these posts, and I didn't ask anyone for opinions. Just so we're clear
@kpaca: that is fair. Yeah, I'm not looking to hear "my ban was just", I don't expect that, and I respect your opinion that it was not fair. I just want all of us to question ourselves "is it possible that it is partly my fault that the shit that happened this summer resolved the way it did?".
@All: I just want to say that I created this thread now because it seemed like Boubouille had posted his verdict already (i.
e. that he thinks you, or some of you, should be unbanned), so I thought I wasn't interrupting that anymore. My apologies if I was mistaken.
Are we at some sort of understanding now?
And I dont think you think I'm a douche. You might not want to go to tea with me, but Ive never thought you disliked me so much as you disliked my attitude or associations.
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[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=18811#p18811:9hdzrdn0]ExarionUniverse1 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:03 pm[/url:9hdzrdn0]":9hdzrdn0][quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=18808#p18808:9hdzrdn0]Sene » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:52 pm[/url:9hdzrdn0]":9hdzrdn0][quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=18801#p18801:9hdzrdn0]Shalako » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:44 pm[/url:9hdzrdn0]":9hdzrdn0]So why didn't you find out what the Staff wanted to do instead of offering To Settle things when you don't know if that is what the Staff Want.[/quote:9hdzrdn0]
Well, we tried. Across multiple threads, including a massive multi-choice poll thread. But the results of that poll only came in like a month later, and things were already going sour at that point. But I'm pretty sure I posted the result of the staff poll thread
to Pegs.
[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=18802#p18802:9hdzrdn0]Shalako » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:45 pm[/url:9hdzrdn0]":9hdzrdn0]Like we say we are sorry.
You accept it.
Staff goes screw those Guys.
???
Profit?[/quote:9hdzrdn0]
Yeah, I obviously cannot guarantee anything one way or the other. I'm only one individual, speaking for myself, and what I say isn't necessarily fact. I [i:9hdzrdn0]think [/i:9hdzrdn0]the way forward is to say "we are both to blame for the outcome of the ridiculous drama this summer, let's try to learn from those mistakes, start from scratch again, and move on". But I do not know for sure if that is true, of course.[/quote:9hdzrdn0]
then please suggest to other members of iridium to post thier views here , so we can get a complete picture.[/quote:9hdzrdn0]
What exactly would you like to know? Just about everything in general, my/our current opinions?
Well, we tried. Across multiple threads, including a massive multi-choice poll thread. But the results of that poll only came in like a month later, and things were already going sour at that point. But I'm pretty sure I posted the result of the staff poll thread
to Pegs.
[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=18802#p18802:9hdzrdn0]Shalako » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:45 pm[/url:9hdzrdn0]":9hdzrdn0]Like we say we are sorry.
You accept it.
Staff goes screw those Guys.
???
Profit?[/quote:9hdzrdn0]
Yeah, I obviously cannot guarantee anything one way or the other. I'm only one individual, speaking for myself, and what I say isn't necessarily fact. I [i:9hdzrdn0]think [/i:9hdzrdn0]the way forward is to say "we are both to blame for the outcome of the ridiculous drama this summer, let's try to learn from those mistakes, start from scratch again, and move on". But I do not know for sure if that is true, of course.[/quote:9hdzrdn0]
then please suggest to other members of iridium to post thier views here , so we can get a complete picture.[/quote:9hdzrdn0]
What exactly would you like to know? Just about everything in general, my/our current opinions?
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Who are you?What exactly would you like to know? Just about everything in general, my/our current opinions?then please suggest to other members of iridium to post thier views here , so we can get a completeWell, we tried. Across multiple threads, including a massive multi-choice poll thread. ButSo why didn't you find out what the Staff wanted to do instead of offering To Settle things when you don't know if that is what the Staff Want.
the results of that poll only came in like a month later, and things were already going sour at that point. But I'm pretty sure I posted the result of the staff poll thread to Pegs.
Yeah, I obviously cannot guarantee anything one way or the other. I'm only one individual, speaking for myself, and what I say isn't necessarily fact. I think the way forward is to say "we are both to blame for the outcome of the ridiculous drama this summer, let's try to learn from those mistakes, start from scratch again, and move on". But I do not know for sure if that is true, of course.Like we say we are sorry.
You accept it.
Staff goes screw those Guys.
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Profit?
picture.
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I think she would, then. Assuming your age is older than her's( I would put her between 19-21).
And, I am The Cold Monarch. I forgot most people on both forums don't have me on steam (its the same name). Figured it was obvious though when I joined mafia with my first post, and Manders probably already knew who I was.
And, I am The Cold Monarch. I forgot most people on both forums don't have me on steam (its the same name). Figured it was obvious though when I joined mafia with my first post, and Manders probably already knew who I was.
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