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Post #1 by Col. Khaddafi » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:24 am

When Steven Menendian was posting his Legacy reviews/checklists on SCG, I took the time to compile it into a nifty excel file, ordered by sets (I prefer to order it this way, it helps me keep track of additions from new sets). The trouble is that since he moved on from SCG (after Worldwake), I cannot find these any longer.

Therefore I took an educated guess on what staples have been added since. The point of this thread is to ask for some opinions on these lists, and hopefully keep track of new additions as a future sticky.

I plan to do a similar thing with a vintage checklist if this goes well.

Here are my educated guesses, thoughts? (PS: I am going by a inclusive approach, including more fringe/sideboard cards)

[deck=Zendikar]1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Mindbreak Trap
1 Sphinx of Lost Truths
1 Spell Pierce
1 Bloodghast
1 Gatekeeper of Malakir
1 Grim Discovery
1 Ravenous Trap
1 Sorin Markov
n1 Vampire Hexmage
1 Goblin Guide
1 Warren Instigator
1 Vines of Vastwood
1 Arid Mesa
1 Magosi, the Waterveil
1 Marsh Flats
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Verdant Catacombs
[/deck]

[deck=Worldwake]
1 Loam Lion
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Jace the Mind Sculptor
1 Dispel
1 Thada Adel, Acquisitor
1 Searing Blaze
1 Terastodon
1 Bojuka Bog[/deck]

[deck=Rise of the Eldrazi]
1 Emanuel the Rapist
1 Wall of Omens (?)
1 Coralhelm Commander (?)
1 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Ancient Stirrings (?)
1 Momentous Fall (?)
1 Realms Uncharted
1 Vengevine[/deck]

[deck=M11]
1 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Preordain
1 Phylactery Lich
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Primeval Titan
1 Crystal Ball
1 Temple Bell[/deck]

[deck=Shards of Mirrodin]
1 Leonin Arbitrer
1 Mindslaver
1 Memnite (?)
1 Mox Opal
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Platinum Emperion
1 Ratchet Bomb
1 Wurmcoil Engine (?)
1 Glimmerpost (?)
[/deck]

[deck=Mirrodin Besieged]
1 Blue Sun's Zenith
1 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Go For The Throat
1 Green Sun's
Zenith
1 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
1 Bonehoard (?)
1 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Inkmoth Nexus (?)
1 Signal Pest (?)[/deck]

[deck=New Phyrexia]
1 Despise (?)
1 Beast Within
1 Karn Liberated[/deck]

[deck=Commander 2011]
1 Flusterstorm
1 Chaos Warp
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Edric, Spymaster of Trest[/deck]

[deck=M12]
1 Grand Abolisher
1 Phantasmal Image
[/deck]

[deck=Innistrad]
1 Delver of Secrets
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Liliana of the Veil
1 Past In Flames
1 Geist of Saint Traft (?)[/deck]

[deck=Dark Ascension]
1 Lingering Souls
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Faithless Looting
1 Grafdigger's Cage[/deck]

[deck=Avacyn Restored]
1 Entreat the Angels
1 Terminus
1 Temporal Mastery (?)
1 Griselband
1 Pillar of Flame (?)
1 Vexing Devil
1 Cavern of Souls[/deck]

[deck=M13]
1 Master of the Pearl Trident
[/deck]

[deck=Return to Ravnica]
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Supreme Veredict
1 Dryad Militant (?)
1 Pithing Needle[/deck]

[deck=Gatecrash]
n1 Enter the Infinite (?)
1 Burning-Tree Emissary
1 Thespian Stage[/deck]

[deck=Dragon's Maze]
1 Notion Thief
1 Beck//Call
1 Wear/Tear (?)[/deck]

[deck=M14]
1 Imposing Sovereign (?)
1 Young Pyromancer[/deck]

[deck=Commander 2013]
1 True-name Nemesis
1 Toxic Deluge (?)[/deck]

[deck=Theros]
1 Ashen Rider
1 Swan Song
1 Destructive Revelry[/deck]

[deck=Born of the Gods]
1 Searing Blood
1 Spirit of the Labirynth
[/deck]

[deck=Journey Into Nyx]
1 Eilodon of Great Revel
1 Mana Confluence[/deck]

[deck=Conspiracy]
1 Council's judgement
1 Dack Fayden (Vintage?)[/deck]

[deck=M15]
1 Warden of Beyond (?)
1 Void Snare
1 Chief Engineer
1 Military Intelligence
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Aggressive Mining (?)
[/deck]

[deck=Khans of Tharkir]
5 Fetches
1 ?[/deck]
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Post #2 by Mcdonalds » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:24 am

The fetches in khans don't count, and I'd exclude Khans for now, it's too early to tell what will and won't be a staple (although in this case, it's pretty likely Treasure cruise will be )

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Post #3 by Col. Khaddafi » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:29 am

Treasure cruise foil is already flirting with 10$ figures
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Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS
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Post #4 by Jack » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:32 am

It won't stay that way. You can get a foil Delver for that price.
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Post #5 by Mcdonalds » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:32 pm

Col. Khaddafi » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:29 am wrote:Treasure cruise foil is already flirting with 10$ figures


Buddy of mine bought a russian foil one for $20 and flipped it on ebay for $60

#TheValueIsReal

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Post #6 by Col. Khaddafi » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:28 pm

So how about the rest of the staple list in the OP, LMD?
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Post #7 by Mcdonalds » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:31 pm

I'll post what I think you could get rid off when I get back from class (need to leave in a bit), but I feel that a good chunk of the cards posted (especially from zendikar) though are playable, aren't really staples.

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Post #8 by Mcdonalds » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:41 pm

Toxic Deluge is definetely a staple though at this point though, card is playable in pretty much any BUG variant, and sees maindeck play in Shardless BUG

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Post #9 by DroppinSuga » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:24 am

Dig Through Time from Khans is probably gonna be a staple. I'd also include Monastery Swiftspear. It's basically Goblin Guide 5-8
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Post #10 by DroppinSuga » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:25 am

Holy shit, Monastery Swiftspear is a $22 foil uncommon right now
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Post #11 by Thrillho » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:18 pm

Worldwake:
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Stoneforge Mystic
Creeping Tar Pit
Death’s Shadow
Lodestone Golem
Groundswell
Terastodon
Searing Blaze
Loam Lion
Nature’s Claim
Bojuka Bog
Halimar Depths
Arbor Elf
Dispel
Tuktuk Scrapper
Kor Firewalker

Rise of the Eldrazi
Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Vengevine
Inquisition of Kozilek
Forked Bolt
Coralhelm Commander
Flame Slash

Scars of Mirrodin
Wurmcoil Engine
Sword of Body and Mind
Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Ratchet Bomb
Twisted Image

Mirrodin Besieged
Blightsteel Colossus
Sword of Feast and Famine
Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
Thrun, the Last Troll
Inkmoth Nexus
Hero of Bladehold
Green Sun’s Zenith
Mirran Crusader
Phyrexian Revoker
Steel Sabotage

New Phyrexia
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Spellskite
Batterskull
Sword of War and Peace
Birthing Pod
Surgical Extraction
Phyrexian Metamorph
Blade Splicer
Dismember
Noxious Revival
Gitaxian Probe
Gut Shot
Mutagenic Growth
Blighted Agent
Glistener Elf

Innistrad
Liliana of the Veil
Snapcaster Mage
Geist of Saint Traft
Sulfur Falls
Garruk Relentless
Past in Flames
Delver of Secrets
Stony Silence
Fiend Hunter
Bump in the Night

Dark Ascension
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Grafdigger’s Cage
Thought Scour
Lingering Souls
Faithless Looting
Tragic Slip

Avacyn Restored
Griselbrand
Cavern of Souls
Vexing Devil
Craterhoof Behemoth
Entreat the Angels
Restoration Angel
Bonfire of the Damned
Terminus
Misthollow Griffin
Pillar of Flame

Return to Ravnica
Abrupt Decay
Deathrite Shaman
Worldspine Wurm
Pack Rat
Supreme Verdict
Detention Sphere
Rest in Peace
Golgari Charm
Dryad Militant
Izzet Staticaster

Gatecrash
Boros Charm
Experiment One
Skullcrack

Dragon’s Maze
Voice of Resurgence
Notion Thief
Wear//Tear

Theros
Master of Waves
Ashen Rider
Swan Song

Born of the Gods
Brimaz, King of Oreskos
Searing Blood
Spirit of the Labyrinth

Journey into Nyx
Mana Confluence
Eidolon of the Great Revel
Banishing Light
Eidolon of Rhetoric

Khans of Tarkir
Dig Through Time
Monastery Swiftspear
Murderous Cut
Treasure Cruise
Become Immense

M10
Goblin Chieftain
Merfolk Sovereign
Doom Blade
Dragon’s Claw

M11
Leyline of Sanctity
Primeval Titan
Fauna Shaman
Grave Titan
Obstinate Baloth
Preordain
Pyretic Ritual
Combust
Back to Nature

M12
Phantasmal Image
Grand Abolisher

M13
Omniscience
Master of the Pearl Trident
Krenko, Mob Boss
Thragtusk

M14
Galerider Sliver
Young Pyromancer
Syphon Sliver
Banisher Priest
Elvish Mystic
Predatory Sliver

M15
Sliver Hive
Reclamation Sage

Conspiracy
Dack Fayden
Council’s Judgment

Commander
Flusterstorm
Scavenging Ooze

Commander 2013
True-Name Nemesis
Toxic Deluge

Commander 2014
Containment Priest
Masterwork of Ingenuity

Planechase 2012
Shardless Agent
Sakashima’s Student
Baleful Strix

I've excluded all reprints. You're welcome.

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Post #12 by Mcdonalds » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:03 pm

Ghost quarter is a reprint

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Post #13 by Thrillho » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:49 pm

Shit you're right. I'm a fraud.

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Post #17 by admin » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:28 am

Most of us Legacy enthusiasts are well aware of the relevant work that Steven Menedian has vcarried out in compiling a detalied checklist of Legacy staples.

Unfortunately, the most recent publicly available list dates back to 2009, circa the Zendikar block, so our DTR's fienst Legacy enthusiasts have undertaken the task of completing this list with the additions from the more recent blocks following Zendikar.

For the sake of clarity, we have decided against updating the list for the blocks preceding Worldwake, and we have restricted ourselves to a more compact list of the Legacy additions of each block, sorted by expansion.

So, without any further ado, here is the official DTR Legacy checklist (post-Zendikar additions, reprints not included for the sake of compactness).

Worldwake:
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Stoneforge Mystic
Creeping Tar Pit
[card]Death’s Shadow[/card]
Lodestone Golem
Groundswell
Terastodon
Searing Blaze
Loam Lion
[card]Nature’s Claim[/card]
Bojuka Bog
Halimar Depths
Arbor Elf
Dispel
Tuktuk Scrapper
Kor Firewalker

Rise of the Eldrazi
Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Vengevine
Inquisition of Kozilek
Forked Bolt
Coralhelm Commander
Flame Slash

Scars of Mirrodin
Wurmcoil Engine
Sword of Body and Mind
Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Ratchet Bomb
Twisted Image

Mirrodin Besieged
Blightsteel Colossus
Sword of Feast and Famine
Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
Thrun, the Last Troll
Inkmoth Nexus
Hero of Bladehold
[card]Green Sun’s Zenith[/card]
Mirran Crusader
Phyrexian Revoker
Steel Sabotage

New Phyrexia
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Spellskite
Batterskull
Sword of War and Peace
Birthing Pod
Surgical Extraction
Phyrexian Metamorph
Blade Splicer
Dismember
Noxious Revival
Gitaxian Probe
Gut Shot
Mutagenic Growth
Blighted Agent
Glistener Elf

Innistrad
Liliana of the Veil
Snapcaster Mage
Geist of Saint Traft
Sulfur Falls
Garruk Relentless
Past in Flames
Delver of Secrets
Stony Silence
Fiend Hunter
Bump in the Night

Dark Ascension
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
[card]Grafdigger’s Cage[/card]
Thought Scour
Lingering Souls
Faithless Looting
Tragic Slip

Avacyn Restored
Griselbrand
Cavern of Souls
Vexing Devil
Craterhoof Behemoth
Entreat the Angels
Restoration Angel
Bonfire of the Damned
Terminus
Misthollow Griffin
Pillar of Flame

Return to Ravnica
Abrupt Decay
Deathrite Shaman
Worldspine Wurm
Pack Rat
Supreme Verdict
Detention Sphere
Rest in Peace
Golgari Charm
Dryad Militant
Izzet Staticaster

Gatecrash
Boros Charm
Experiment One
Skullcrack

Dragon’s Maze
Voice of Resurgence
Notion Thief
[card]Wear//Tear[/card]

Theros
Master of Waves
Ashen Rider
Swan Song

Born of the Gods
Brimaz, King of Oreskos
Searing Blood
Spirit of the Labyrinth

Journey into Nyx
Mana Confluence
Eidolon of the Great Revel
Banishing Light
Eidolon of Rhetoric

Khans of Tarkir
Dig Through Time
Monastery Swiftspear
Murderous Cut
Treasure Cruise
Become Immense

M10
Goblin Chieftain
Merfolk Sovereign
Doom Blade
[card]Dragon’s Claw[/card]

M11
Leyline of Sanctity
Primeval Titan
Fauna Shaman
Grave Titan
Obstinate Baloth
Preordain
Pyretic Ritual
Combust
Back to Nature

M12
Phantasmal Image
Grand Abolisher

M13
Omniscience
Master of the Pearl Trident
Krenko, Mob Boss
Thragtusk

M14
Galerider Sliver
Young Pyromancer
Syphon Sliver
Banisher Priest
Elvish Mystic
Predatory Sliver

M15
Sliver Hive
Reclamation Sage

Conspiracy
Dack Fayden
[card]Council’s Judgment[/card]

Commander
Flusterstorm
Scavenging Ooze

Commander 2013
True-Name Nemesis
Toxic Deluge

Commander 2014
Containment Priest
Masterwork of Ingenuity

Planechase 2012
Shardless Agent
[card]Sakashima’s Student[/card]
Baleful Strix

What do you think about this list? Are some cards missing? Did we include fringe cards? Let us know here!

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Post #18 by Thrillho » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:15 pm

While the signets and trinket mage are both valid suggestions, they're not printed post-zendikar. Unless those cards weren't on the original list for "legacy staples"? edit: here's the original list. I'll parse through it when I'm not using mobile: http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/lega ... klist.html

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Post #19 by Col. Khaddafi » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:09 pm

I can confirm that the signets where never in any of Steven Menendian lists
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Post #20 by Thrillho » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:42 pm

May be fruitful to revisit his old list and purge old useless stuff and add new stuff.
Though smother I don't think goes on any of those lists.

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Post #21 by Col. Khaddafi » Fri May 29, 2015 4:45 pm

Yeah I'd like to update this list.

We have the Khans, Fate Reforged and Dragons set to add, maybe some updates to the rest? Deletions and new inclusions?
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Post #22 by Mcdonalds » Fri May 29, 2015 4:57 pm

Tasigur

Possibly zombie fish

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Post #23 by Mcdonalds » Fri May 29, 2015 4:57 pm

Also is there a sticky function, was gonna sticky this

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Post #24 by rcwraspy » Sat May 30, 2015 4:24 pm

I'd say Zombie Fish makes the cut. It's showing up in Grixis Delver and was in an Open-winning list. It's certainly a "playable" but if this list is strictly "staples" then it probably doesn't make the cut, but neither do a lot of other cards listed.
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Post #25 by Col. Khaddafi » Sun May 31, 2015 5:49 pm

Yeah we could probably trim a few cards from the list too. Unless we make tier-A and tier-B listings like Menendian did in his original listings.

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Post #26 by Mcdonalds » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:30 pm

Would trim groundswell, arbor elf, and dispel


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