[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[redthirst]

Good nothing. That's fucking gold mother fucker.

[Khaospawn]

Punny you should mention that....

[Lightning_Dolt]

That's a pretty sketchy evaluation. We all know that x/1s are never relevant in constructed. Nope, not ever.

If your deck tops out at 4, you can +0 when you you have 4 lands in play (so the turn after playing her). If your deck tops out at 5, you can +0 once you hit your 5th land drop. Of course, this is board state dependent.

I also don't understand what you don't like about Hellrider in that deck, it is still a good card without a swarm. You've never been happy to play Hellrider on to an empty board? Even alone, it kills them very quickly, and with even just a Phoenix in play, you're hitting for 7 a turn - with the amount of burnt the deck has available, that is a very quick kill.

Potential targets for the +1:

[card]
Arbor Elf[/card] (has already provide acceleration)
[card]Avacyn's Pilgrim[/card] (has already provide acceleration)
Blood Artist (still drains you)
Boros Elite (Has already hit for chunks of damage)
Disciple of Bolas (has already gained life / drawn cards)
Doomed Traveler (leaves a token)
Elvish Mystic (has already provide acceleration)
Imposing Sovereign (has already messed up your blockers, but at least it frees up your Thundermaw)
Legion Loyalist (has already hit for damage)
Lifebane Zombie (Has already got it's ETB)
Lightning Mauler (has already given haste, or hit for damage)
Mayor of Avabruck (has already provided anthem effect for 1-2 turns)
[card:
f02juuah]Snapcaster Mage[/card] (has already flashed something back)
Strangleroot Geist (undying)
Young Pyromancer (likely has made a token)
Young Wolf (undying)
Tokens (Not gaining card advantage)

Forgive me if I'm not crazy about the plus one. All the viable targets have already got a lot of value, leave a token behind, or grow.

The deck doesn't top out at 4, it tops out at 5. You can't use zero on T4 at all, because you're tapped out. On T5, you don't want to use the zero if you haven't played a land, because you might exile the Thundermaw Hellkite you were about to draw without being able to play it. If you did play your land, you run the risk of exiling a land and not being able to play it, which equals no value. With that in mind, I think it's risky T5, likely T6 starting to zero it. At that point, your top deck is dictating what you can play, or you'
re exiling things for no value. In my mind that is a lot worse than actual card draw. It also messes with miracle bonfire of the damned.

I have only played about 5 games with this deck against Junk Aristocrats, but hellrider have been kinda meh when it only gets 1-2 triggers. He needs a deck that curves out to get the broken value we're used to.

I'm willing to test Chandra, Pyromaster, but I'm not crazy about it.

[rcwraspy]

If you have a land in hand T5 don't play it before her 0. If you reveal a land, play it. If you reveal thundermaw, drop the land from hand then play tmaw. You can play the 0 any time that turn (using the card's normal speed)

[redthirst]

Chandra, Pyromancer

+0: Don't be a pussy.

[Lightning_Dolt]

If you have a land in hand T5 don't play it before her 0. If you reveal a land, play it. If you reveal thundermaw, drop the land from hand then play tmaw. You can play the 0 any time that turn (using the card's normal speed)

Sorry, you're right. I thought you had to do it right away. That cancels most of my second point.

[Valdarith]

Chandra, Pyromancer

+0: Don't be a pussy.

+0: Cmon, you know you want to.

[hamfactorial]

+0: come on faggot, look how she's dressed.

[Yarpus]

+0: Pimpin ain't eazy.

[Jack]

+0 to purge that profane bitch

[Khaospawn]

+0 lay your dick on the table

[hamfactorial]

+0: Exile the top item of clothing on target redhead. You may control her until end of turn.

[Kazekirimaru]

+0'ing is perfectly fine when done safely.

[Jack]

+0 Do all of the above, then do a shot.

[hamfactorial]

+1: just the tip

[Khaospawn]

-6: Surprise butt sex.

[PirateKingAtomsk]

So what's up with kalonian hydra being at 40$ ?

[hamfactorial]

Money > sense

[Jack]

So, I'm at the horse track, and somehow, I'm making money. Does anyone here know anything about betting, or should I keep choosing the one with the best name?

[hamfactorial]

Disregard horses, acquire hydras.

[Valdarith]

Boros Reckoner is at $11. Sell? I have three and I feel like he's going to drop pretty drastically, so I can buy them back up later if I need to.

[Jack]

I'll keep that in mind. I'll make $40, leave, buy a hydra, then forget about the horses.

[rcwraspy]

So, I'm at the horse track, and somehow, I'm making money. Does anyone here know anything about betting, or should I keep choosing the one with the best name?

Are you still in Boston, and if so, are you at Suffolk Downs?

[Jack]

No, we've actually made our way down to NY, and I'm at Saratoga.

[Pendulum]

So, I'm at the horse track, and somehow, I'm making money. Does anyone here know anything about betting, or should I keep choosing the one with the best name?

It's all about track conditions vs. horse strengths. The bookies can't tell what the condition of the track is going to be before the race, and some horses are better at, say, wet gravel tracks and some are better at grass tracks, etc. The general rule of thumb is that the heavier the horse + jockey, the worse they're going to do on a softer track but the better they're going to do on a solid surface. Obviously there's other factors here and unless you have experience with knowing what a track is like just by looking at it, it's probably just as reliable as any other method, but if
you can get a feel for what the track conditions are like by, say, seeing how much dust blows up in a wind gust, you can start making stronger bets.

[Pendulum]

*smokebomb
*flees

[Jack]

Well, it's raining, and they're doing steeplechase races on a grass track, but I'm going to disregard that bit of info for this next race because there's a strong looking horse with 5-2 odds named Rapid Burn.

[redthirst]

You can't not win with a name like Rapid Burn.

Bet all your monies.

[hamfactorial]

Does the horse have Split Second?

[RedNihilist]

So, I just registered on MTGO.
How do I actually start stalking you guys, while I try to figure out what I'm supposed to do?

[Jack]

Rapid Burn made me money!!

[redthirst]

You're welcome.

And yes, you always bet on the horse with the coolest name. That's how the pros do it.

[Valdarith]

So, I just registered on MTGO.
How do I actually start stalking you guys, while I try to figure out what I'm supposed to do?

The MTGO primer on Sally isn't that bad.

Play a lot of games in the Tournament Practice room to get a feel for the controls. Also, set stops in every phase so you don't miss casting spells at the end of your opponents' phases (or beginning of combat or before declaring blockers).

[redthirst]

I want to be the very best!

Like no one ever was...

[hamfactorial]

So, I just registered on MTGO.
How do I actually start stalking you guys, while I try to figure out what I'm supposed to do?

If you add us on MTGO, you'll see our name turn red when we're in a game. If it's in a public room, you can find it and watch the game as a spectator.

[redthirst]

To catch them in my real test.

To train them is my cause...

[redthirst]

I will travel across the land...

Searching far and wide.

[redthirst]

Teach Pokemon to understand,

The power that's inside!

[TubeHunter]

Yes

[Jack]

My horse just won in a photo finish by less than a nose length. So awesome.